***** Official Houston Astros 2017 Season Thread *****

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titanmaster_race
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Giles is not a shutdown flamethrower, but he's also not nearly as bad as we sometimes think he is.

And even if he is that bad, then all other closers sans Chapman and Kimbrel and maybe one or two more are also terrible, and no upgrade is available.
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Agreed with the recent post on Giles. He is good enough to be the closer of this team in the playoffs. Where he runs into trouble isn't in games where he starts an inning, it's when we had a big lead and Giles had to come in with bases loaded to extinguish it. Like last night, and the Angel game.Those are actually his only 2 blown saves this year.

When he starts an inning he gets the save. Come playoffs, we won't throw out struggling pitchers in the 8th.

Additionally, there isn't anyone realistically better than Giles that we could obtain.
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Giles' numbers look good on the surface, but most of those pitchers have a higher WAR because Giles sucks with regard to inherited runners scoring.
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I agree with this. Giles biggest weakness is lack of command, and due to that, it is difficult to bring him in the middle of an inning with runners on base. You just do not know if he will be able to command and control the ball enough to the first hitter with say a runner on third base or bases loaded. Thus, I doubt in a post season situation he would be used that way.

With that said, given how well we played and our cushion, it is a nice luxury to be able to allow Hinch to put guys into different spots during the course of the season so that he will then be able to better understand their strengths and weaknesses and use the guys in the postseason to maximize their strengths.
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According to fangraphs only Ozuna has more than a marginally higher WAR. The rest are at most .1 or .2 better than Giles who has a .5 so far this season.
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They have access to more advanced stats that we could ever dream of... I really wish we would just shuck roles completely and throw guy's when it favors their repertoire.

An overrated stat and tradition screw all of that up though.
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Optioned Guduan and recalled Dyan Diaz
txag614
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Ag_07 said:

Optioned Guduan and recalled Dyan Diaz
Would have liked to see Guduan stay.
JJxvi
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Why?
JJxvi
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Giles has allowed 7 of 12 inherited baserunners to score, including the maximum of 3 on two occasions and the other time he came in with the bases loaded the hitter drilled a line drive right at an outfielder.
3B Paul 97
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Probably to have a fresh arm in the pen.
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A good 7+ inning outing from Dallas tonight would go a long way.
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3B Paul 97 said:

Probably to have a fresh arm in the pen.
Fresh arm for the pen is why they are sending him down.

I was wondering why people want him to stay.
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Because he's looked pretty good and he's taken 2 appearances away from Sipp. That's REALLY good.
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Ag_07 said:

Because he's looked pretty good and he's taken 2 appearances away from Sipp. That's REALLY good.


Taking appearances away from tsip is good reason enough.
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Why is Dayan Diaz starting and not Dallas?

Fck

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CSWendt
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My excitement for this game just dropped soooo much
Hulla Baller
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Illness?
Buck Compton
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Woohoo. Keuchel scratched. Shaping up for a great series against the royals.
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Man this rotation is hot garbage right now.

Better hope the offense doesn't cook off or go into a slump.
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Dang, I am at Kauffman and was stoked for Keuchel. Hopefully Diaz somehow dazzles.
titanmaster_race
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I'm just glad it's not something that will put him on the DL
Buck Compton
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Our bullpen is going to be running on fumes by August, much less October...
Ag_07
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I just hope he goes more than 5.
bearkatag15
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Hasn't gone more than 2 2/3 this year in the minors
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bearkatag15 said:

Hasn't gone more than 2 2/3 this year in the minors
Even better news.
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Ag_07 said:

Man this rotation is hot garbage right now.

Better hope the offense doesn't cook off or go into a slump.


Hot garbage may be a little much.
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bearkatag15 said:

Hasn't gone more than 2 2/3 this year in the minors


Joy
MelvinUdall
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Ag_07 said:

Man this rotation is hot garbage right now.

Better hope the offense doesn't cook off or go into a slump.


Man, given they have one of the best ERA's baseball, your comment rings a bit hollow.
EagleAg19
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So much for resting our bullpen. Hopefully Diaz will last a few
Cen-Tex
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This KC pitching staff is loaded w/lefties. (fortunate)
CSWendt
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If you're Diaz I'm throwing it 3 inches of the inside corner to righties based on what Correa got
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Got to protect the plate better there. Too selective on close pitches with two strikes.
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