At this point, sure seems like ABD should have Ross's spot in the pitching rotation. Ross has basically one good start.

jtstanley4621 said:

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At this point, sure seems like ABD should have Ross's spot in the pitching rotation. Ross has basically one good start.

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Him or Griffin

My game 6 pain meter is redlining again

So you're saying there's hope...

I was actually a St. L fan prior to 2011. Now any mention of them makes my stomach turn.

DannyDuberstein said:

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I was actually a St. L fan prior to 2011. Now any mention of them makes my stomach turn.

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Odor took a 4 pitch walk

Those must have been some terrible pitches

One of the worst pitching staffs in baseball and they're shutting us down

Lucroy: 69 GP, .254 BA, 4 HR, .298 OBP, 30 SO

Chirinos: 41 GP, .214 BA, 12 HR, .303 OBP, 40 SO

We good with the .214 and 1SO/GP?

Oh lordy Chirinos.

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Yup... sell baby sell

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E2

Finding ways to lose.

I want to watch Daniels and Banister sell us on "it's a long season, we'll turn it around". I don't think they can tell that same old story with a straight face.

DallasAg 94 said:

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Finding ways to lose.

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Exactly why we shouldn't "go for it" this year. I know anything can happen in the playoffs, but this team is just lost.

DallasAg 94 said:

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Lucroy: 69 GP, .254 BA, 4 HR, .298 OBP, 30 SO

Chirinos: 41 GP, .214 BA, 12 HR, .303 OBP, 40 SO

We good with the .214 and 1SO/GP?

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If he were somehow able to continue slugging over .500, I don't think anyone would care about his average or strikeouts. Of course there's no chance that happens, though.

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Finding ways to lose.

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Exactly why we shouldn't "go for it" this year. I know anything can happen in the playoffs, but this team is just lost.

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This team has the talent and the ability to make the playoffs and possible see some magic in the playoffs. They have the pitching.

The problem is they only have the "Big-Bang" and don't have any "Chip-Away" game. You just don't know which team is going to show up.

I agree, this is likely a team better suited to dismantle. As much as it pains me to say.

Face it. Chirinos is a backup Catcher. He is who he is. Sell Lucroy? If the pitchers don't like him, then sell him, maybe to Mil. Get something for him if you aren't planning to sign him.

Ross hasn't shown anything consistent. I've said his season will be bumpy. If the Rangers have any thoughts he'll be a part of the 2018 team... sign him another year deal and keep running him out there. If they have no plans for him in 2018 and they are serious about 2017, then dump him. His recovery is no longer worth taking up GS, unless it is an investment in 2018.

Cashner - See if you can lock him up, if not? Gone.

AJG rehabs in Round Rock (AAA), tomorrow.

Gomez? Decide if you want multiple years from him. If not? Gone.

Hamels? I'm on the fence.

Profar? Gone.

I think now is the time to start shopping and getting a strategy to vacate the year.

A rotation for the rest of the year of:
Perez, ABD, AJG, Nick Martinez and Whomever, would suck, but would tell us what we have.

Hamburger Dan said:

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I want to watch Daniels and Banister sell us on "it's a long season, we'll turn it around". I don't think they can tell that same old story with a straight face.

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I'm starting to think JD and Banny have nothing to do with it, just passing on the owners wishes. It's more the owners trying to keep the Rangers relevant in post season talk in order to keep butts in seats and sponsors happy. They really need to rip the bandaid off and stop "chasing the night".

"The old has passed away; behold, the new has come."

Every day is a new day in Baseball. Rangers are 3.5 games out of the WC.

And even though we've lost 4 straight, we are in the thick of things. The schedule is in our favor:
@ Balt (1): 45-59
@ Tampa (3): 51-45
v Miami (3): 42-51 - 11th in NL
v Balt (3): 45-49
v Sea (3): 48-48
@ Minn (4): 48-46
@ NYM (2): 42-50 - 10th in NL

Two of the worst NL teams and 4 teams that aren't better than us, but ahead of us in the standings.

Time to git'er done.

AAA Round Rock

Box Score from last night
Of interest:
AJG: 3.1 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 4 SO (2HR)
Nick Mart: 4.0 IP, 4 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 SO

AJG victim of the long ball. I think for a place like Oakland, San Diego or Seattle, AJG makes sense. I want him to come back and be effective, but his propensity for HRs is not of interest to me.

Good to see Nick Martinez have another strong outing.


Ronald Guzman with a HR.
Comparing Guzman and Gallo
Guzman: (22-LHB) 88 G, .318 BA, 17 (2B), 11 HR, 58 SO
Gallo: (22.243-2016) 102 G, .240 BA, 17 (2B), 25 HR, 150 SO
Gallo: (23.243-LHB) 86 G, .191 BA, 11 (2B), 22 HR, 115 SO

It would be nice to get something for Profar and Gallo.

Cole Hamels is not getting traded.

DallasAg 94 said:

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"The old has passed away; behold, the new has come."

Every day is a new day in Baseball. Rangers are 3.5 games out of the WC.

And even though we've lost 4 straight, we are in the thick of things. The schedule is in our favor:
@ Balt (1): 45-59
@ Tampa (3): 51-45
v Miami (3): 42-51 - 11th in NL
v Balt (3): 45-49
v Sea (3): 48-48
@ Minn (4): 48-46
@ NYM (2): 42-50 - 10th in NL

Two of the worst NL teams and 4 teams that aren't better than us, but ahead of us in the standings.

Time to git'er done.

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This, after less than 24 hours ago you said....

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I agree, this is likely a team better suited to dismantle. As much as it pains me to say.

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Are you smoking the happy weed this morning??

Squirrel Master said:

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Cole Hamels is not getting traded.

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I agree. He is signed for 2018 and has an option for 2019 (I think). We aren't going to let all the top level players go. They still have tickets to sell and still need a competitive team moving forward with the new stadium opening up not too far down the road.

MSFC Aggie said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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"The old has passed away; behold, the new has come."

Every day is a new day in Baseball. Rangers are 3.5 games out of the WC.

And even though we've lost 4 straight, we are in the thick of things. The schedule is in our favor:
@ Balt (1): 45-59
@ Tampa (3): 51-45
v Miami (3): 42-51 - 11th in NL
v Balt (3): 45-49
v Sea (3): 48-48
@ Minn (4): 48-46
@ NYM (2): 42-50 - 10th in NL

Two of the worst NL teams and 4 teams that aren't better than us, but ahead of us in the standings.

Time to git'er done.

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This, after less than 24 hours ago you said....

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I agree, this is likely a team better suited to dismantle. As much as it pains me to say.

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Are you smoking the happy weed this morning??

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That is the exact illustration I was intending to portray. In the case of Baseball, and specifically the Rangers 2017 team... they are a bit bipolar.

In the case of baseball, you can lose 0-150 one night and come back and win a gem 150-0 the next. You start fresh every day, without regard to yesterday. That is why they say, it is a LONG season.

In the case of this team... Darvish gives up a couple runs in the early innings and we come unglued... then he shuts them down and ends up going from 1.0 IP/2ER, to 7IP/2ER. Even within the game... this team is completely unpredictable.

On the one hand, I say dismantle it, and stock up. We have tremendous trade pieces that will infuse tons of talent. On the other, we have tremendous talent and swapping a couple minor pieces could be all we need to win a WS.

It is why I love baseball. Chirinos was going to be our secret weapon to win games and now he can't even catch a force out at home on a great defensive play at 2B.

Now hold my beer...

And then you get this...

Anyone know what happened? I've seen a few articles about it and there is no mention of cause of death.

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That is the exact illustration I was intending to portray. In the case of Baseball, and specifically the Rangers 2017 team... they are a bit bipolar.

In the case of baseball, you can lose 0-150 one night and come back and win a gem 150-0 the next. You start fresh every day, without regard to yesterday. That is why they say, it is a LONG season.

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You said dismantle the team after a 12-1 loss at Baltimore then they come back and lose 10-2 at Baltimore and you're talking about new days, being bipolar, and momentum shifts and making a run as the World Series?

DannyDuberstein said:

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Anyone know what happened? I've seen a few articles about it and there is no mention of cause of death.

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One report I found listed him as a Truck Driver and was battling depression...

DannyDuberstein said:

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Anyone know what happened? I've seen a few articles about it and there is no mention of cause of death.

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Believed to be a suicide. Not sure a more specific cause of death is out there yet.

I nearly mentioned that a complete absence of discussion about cause oftentimes means suicide, but didn't want to go there just based on that.

TXAggie2011 said:

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DannyDuberstein said:

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Anyone know what happened? I've seen a few articles about it and there is no mention of cause of death.

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Believed to be a suicide. Not sure a more specific cause of death is out there yet.

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Two of the articles had updates saying "the family confirmed he took his own life."

Yes, someone from his family said he took his own life.

I mean to say I haven't seen details on the means of suicide.

Whatever happened, its very sad.

TXAggie2011 said:

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That is the exact illustration I was intending to portray. In the case of Baseball, and specifically the Rangers 2017 team... they are a bit bipolar.

In the case of baseball, you can lose 0-150 one night and come back and win a gem 150-0 the next. You start fresh every day, without regard to yesterday. That is why they say, it is a LONG season.

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You said dismantle the team after a 12-1 loss at Baltimore then they come back and lose 10-2 at Baltimore and you're talking about new days, being bipolar, and momentum shifts?

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Can't get anything past you...

And in context... I had included the following:

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Every day is a new day in Baseball. Rangers are 3.5 games out of the WC.

And even though we've lost 4 straight, we are in the thick of things. The schedule is in our favor:
@ Balt (1): 45-59
@ Tampa (3): 51-45
v Miami (3): 42-51 - 11th in NL
v Balt (3): 45-49
v Sea (3): 48-48
@ Minn (4): 48-46
@ NYM (2): 42-50 - 10th in NL

Two of the worst NL teams and 4 teams that aren't better than us, but ahead of us in the standings.

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Hamels is on the mound for us, today... and we have a very soft schedule looming. We could easily go 13-6 or 6-13. But, either way... it all starts today.