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Too many games to boot. I had. Diamondback season tix for 8 years. 1st with another couple. That was 41 games, eventually we had 2 other couples to make it more manageable. We still wasted many tickets. I now go to just a handful of games and buy much better seats.

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I had Dallas Stars STs for about 10 years. It was great until the kids got active in extracurriculars. I've probably been to around 300 Stars games... mostly when I was without kids. Now that money goes to Private School.

What do you do for a living? If you don't mind me asking...

AccidentProne said:

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What do you do for a living? If you don't mind me asking...

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I work in the Technology field. Without giving up too much... I'm in Sales and get paid to set vision and strategy for companies you would be very familiar with. And then, when problems arise... I get to be the savior. I tell my son, "I get paid for what I know, not how long it takes me."

Much like I am on here. Except I'm less belligerent and less demeaning.

I bet you could utilize season tickets to entertain clients. Close some new biz.

Like I didn't see that coming...

Actually, I'm a worldwide resource. Very few of my customers are in DFW.

Your original post referenced whether the posting fee will impact how teams go after certain players.

The answer is -- no more than any other free agent. Almost all teams will post. One team will win. That team isn't suddenly going to decide "well ,we got our ace -- lets shutdown the offseason".

Practically every team will be in on him. Practically every team will be willing to spend $20m and change on him. No team is changing their plan significantly because they landed a front-end starter for $20m.

This isn't like Darvish or Dice-K where significant funds are being debated.

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If you want season tickets for the new stadium, you better get on board now. The reseating process is going to be a pain in the ass, and people who wait until 2020 to buy will likely get shafted because there won't be any inventory available in the infield

I've already got a long list of people ready to buy, but if you get in this year you'll have priority moving forward.

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I imagine it won't be too dissimilar from the current stadium -- a "waitlist" for the infield, but if you really want infield seats after a few seasons there will be plenty available depending on the price. Much like "New Kyle" -- if the team isn't playing for pennants, demand after a few years will curtail... It's Arlington, TX.

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Your original post referenced whether the posting fee will impact how teams go after certain players.

The answer is -- no more than any other free agent. Almost all teams will post. One team will win. That team isn't suddenly going to decide "well ,we got our ace -- lets shutdown the offseason".

Practically every team will be in on him. Practically every team will be willing to spend $20m and change on him. No team is changing their plan significantly because they landed a front-end starter for $20m.

This isn't like Darvish or Dice-K where significant funds are being debated.

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So what is the controversy? Signing free agents affects how a team moves forward in the offseason. I don't think the idea was originally that a team would "shutdown"; just that a $20 million liability wasn't accounted for when looking at the 2018 budget and payroll.

Obviously since it's a one time thing it's more about how it affects short-term contracts.

I'm sure every team will be willing to post $20 million, as the best use of $20 million, but that's a different question than posed.

There isn't real controversy. He misunderstood my first post and he's since trying to manufacture controversy and trying to pounce on my example from above. Its therefore on slightly more stable ground than his "Gallo isn't hitting .250" attempt to create a controversy. I'm sure he'll keep digging and take it as a badge of honor he's in a scrap.

I never suggested the impact would be greater than any other player coming with an equivalent price tag and structure---generally speaking, money is money is money.

I said the full monetary situation wasn't accounted for; there isn't controversy about that if you believe free agents and their resulting monetary commitments can have impacts.

I also used the word "unknown"; it's just something to ponder when thinking what the Rangers (or Royals or whoever) could do next offseason if they were to get Ohani.

And of course teams will be willing to pay the $20 million for Ohani. It's a bargain. Again, you've misunderstood if you thought that I was suggesting otherwise.

Goodnight from KC.

Listening to Shake Joint on the ticket this morning. Apparently Odor was quoted as saying he has no interest in changing his approach at the plate.
I don't care if we just paid him, we should trade him the second he hits way into some trade value

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The Thursday off day came at a good time for Elvis, plus he got Wednesday night off as well.

Is Profar still on the roster, or back on AAA?

Found this, Elvis' paternity leave is actually for 72 hours, so he may be out of the lineup again tonight and back for Saturday nights game: So Profar probably still around for at least tonight's game.

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When Elvis Andrus hopped on the 72-hour paternity list Wednesday, Profar again made the commute from Central Texas to keep Andrus' seat warm.

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http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/mlb/texas-rangers/article160006654.html

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There isn't real controversy. He misunderstood my first post and he's since trying to manufacture controversy and trying to pounce on my example from above. Its therefore on slightly more stable ground than his "Gallo isn't hitting .250" attempt to create a controversy. I'm sure he'll keep digging and take it as a badge of honor he's in a scrap.

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Good lord. Let it go man. No one "misunderstood" your first post. You edited it 5 times after realizing it sounded dumb.

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AccidentProne said:

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If you want season tickets for the new stadium, you better get on board now. The reseating process is going to be a pain in the ass, and people who wait until 2020 to buy will likely get shafted because there won't be any inventory available in the infield

I've already got a long list of people ready to buy, but if you get in this year you'll have priority moving forward.

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I imagine it won't be too dissimilar from the current stadium -- a "waitlist" for the infield, but if you really want infield seats after a few seasons there will be plenty available depending on the price. Much like "New Kyle" -- if the team isn't playing for pennants, demand after a few years will curtail... It's Arlington, TX.

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You're right. I started here at the tail end of the 2014 season. Calling people for renewals during that debacle was fun. We had a bunch of premium inventory in the infield open up and a lot of new buyers swooped in.
Fast forward to the 2nd half of the 2015 season when the team starts playing well, and all those people who didn't renew come crawling back and want their same seats from before. Too bad.

Moral of the story is baseball is a cyclical sport. Your favorite team isn't going to be playing in the World Series every season. Best thing to do is just power through, and have faith that the FO is going to make the necessary moves to field a competitive team.

Agreed. There's a lot of franchises out there that I wouldn't feel comfortable they would try and field a competitive team year-in, year-out to invest in season tickets long-term, but Texas has proven that you should get your money's worth.

I hope you have a ticket plan then

But seriously, there are some people out there who will "you should just tank several seasons and restock the farm." Well that MIGHT work out in the long-term, but it's really not a sound business decision. Baseball is not like football or basketball. It's a slow sport. It's the type of sport that if the team sucks, your stadium will be empty. And if you're stadium is empty, you're not making the money you need to be making to get the type of players you need to win.

Have they made a decision on how the actual seat selection process will work? Reps just going to try and place people in "similar seats" to what they have, or will there be a Kyle-Field-esque seat selection?

It's going to depend on your current plan type, current location, and tenure.
So a full season plan has priority over a half season plan. However, a half season plan in the lower infield should have priority over a full season plan in the outfield.

My suggestion is get the best possible seats you can in at least a half season plan until the new stadium opens, and continue to accrue tenure. Only full and half season plans accrue tenure. That way you'll have a better priority and more likelihood to pick seats from where you want rather than picking from what's left.

I believe we will have a preview center available by the time the 2018 season starts so you'll be able to get a virtual fly threw of what the new stadium will look like.

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Listening to Shake Joint on the ticket this morning. Apparently Odor was quoted as saying he has no interest in changing his approach at the plate.
I don't care if we just paid him, we should trade him the second he hits way into some trade value

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That's either fake news or Odor is a bigger idiot than previously known by saying something like that aloud.

Some guys are just flat out dumb and can't be coached.

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Some guys are just flat out dumb and can't be coached.

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He's 23? I've coached and taught in vain some very stubborn college students over the years but most knew better than to come out and tell the world they're know-it-alls.

Where was Odor quoted, DMN, StT?

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Where was Odor quoted, DMN, StT?

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No idea, but Jake is usually pretty good about actually having a source or doing research on sports related topics.

I got the impression on the segment it wasn't something he said in the past week. Maybe over the summer possibly

Obviously a little bit different situation because we released him as opposed to getting him in a trade, but Dyson in 98 innings (all but 1 inning with NL Miami) - 3.88 ERA

Dyson in 2015 and 2016 with Texas - 2.03 ERA.

Hell, even including his disastrous 17 games with Texas this season, in his time here he had an ERA over half a run better than it was before Texas acquired him.

Hate to see him thrive elsewhere, but we got more than we thought we were getting with him.

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Change of scenery, and now the Giants have a good relief pitcher with a few cheap seasons left of team control. Sucks to see. You wonder what would have happened if we had just put him on season ending DL or something.

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Definitely wish the club had been able to figure out a way to get him to reset.

I'm sure those 10 days or so he got off that weren't because of an injury helped the mind clear. Oh well.

The focus now must be on Tony Barnette and whether he can get back on track. The Rangers must make a contract decision on him at year's end.

I'm fine with letting Barnette walk at this point. I don't think he's got all that great of stuff, and he doesn't throw all that hard. I would sign him if the price were right, but at least this season's Barnette we could find elsewhere I'd have to think.

And the next most interesting question is whether you release Jeremy Jeffress in the off-season ala Toronto 2012 before Jeffress signed with the Brewers.

Leslie McCaslin looks ****ing amazing tonight. Holy ****

AccidentProne said:

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Leslie McCaslin looks ****ing amazing tonight. Holy ****

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Don't you have a woman in Seattle...

jtstanley4621 said:

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Change of scenery, and now the Giants have a good relief pitcher with a few cheap seasons left of team control. Sucks to see. You wonder what would have happened if we had just put him on season ending DL or something.

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I thought they pulled the trigger too quick on Dyson.

From what they said on the radio (at the time he this was going on)...I don't think he liked his 1st stint on the DL. He was supposed to "work on some things," but apparently he didn't work on anything. The team was looking to put him back on the DL to work on some more things and he said there was nothing wrong and nothing to work on.

They made it sound like the Rangers were frustrated with his response and his approach.

I don't know the dynamics of what was going on beyond that, but Dyson seemed like the type that was very straight forward and just wanted to pitch through it. I think sometimes you just can't pitch through it, and need a reset.

I wish we'd been able to keep him, and glad he is doing well (in the NL). I always liked him. He just didn't take himself or things too seriously.

AccidentProne said:

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Leslie McCaslin looks ****ing amazing tonight. Holy ****

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And I have a wonderfully beautiful wife, or I'd tell you Rule #1.

And no. No Rule #1, here.

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AccidentProne said:

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Leslie McCaslin looks ****ing amazing tonight. Holy ****

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Don't you have a woman in Seattle...

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