***Official 2023 - 2024 Dallas Mavericks Season Thread***

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what's lowest face to get in the building? $500?
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Make sure you are selecting ONLY face value tickets. Ticketmaster won't automatically sort them for you.
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Lol 34,000 people ahead of me in the Ticketmaster queue for Game 3 tickets
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Goldie Wilson said:

Lol 34,000 people ahead of me in the Ticketmaster queue for Game 3 tickets
down to 32k for me now....lame
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Goldie Wilson said:

Lol 34,000 people ahead of me in the Ticketmaster queue for Game 3 tickets
Play in Jerry World you cowards
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down to just 26k now
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7500 now and dropping fast...prob down to just singles I imagine
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had 2 carted, but lost em
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Got secondary tickets to game 4 for 800 each, 300 section but at least I'll be there. I still think it's wild that most years you can get into the CFB national title game for significantly cheaper than a single NBA Finals game. IIRC the Bama/Georgia title game in Indy a couple years back had tickets for $500 available the day of the game. I know why it's the case but it's just so maddening they charge these prices for single games in a 7 game series.
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And chances are those secondary tickets were the Mavericks or their partners listing. A lot of "secondary" tickets popped up all over the arena at $800 and $1400.
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The wildest is still the Super Bowl, where in recent years it was usually $5k minimum to get in the building. I look at some of the people in the crowd and think how the hell could this many people like you be able/willing to pay that? I can take my wife and I on an exotic week long vacation to some of the nicest places on earth for less than the price of two tickets to a three hour football game.
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had two all the way through 200s for 1k each...only to have a Ticketmaster error and lose them.
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It's insane that Dwight Powell was the starting center on a Western Conference Finals team just two years ago. Nico completely flipped this team towards interior defense / rebounding and have been playing unbelievable since the trade deadline. The moves were logical and made sense, but no way I saw this coming. Amazing run.

The Boston series is such a tough matchup for anyone. On the plus side offensively, I just don't see anyone stopping Luka Doncic. Ultimately if the Mavs win this series it will be because Luka dominated Boston in the pick and roll. This can happen, I'm not betting against Luka man. But defensively I just don't see any answers to the Boston 5-out spacing. They will pull either Lively or Gafford away from the rim unlike the LAC, OKC, MIN series. The Mavs will have to start rotating to take away the rim which will lead to open 3's. I'm sure that will be the strategy by Kidd. It is going to take one hell of an effort by these guys to contest shots. Winning this series will require 3-point shooting luck in Dallas' favor plus Luka going nuclear.
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zgolfz85 said:

had two all the way through 200s for 1k each...only to have a Ticketmaster error and lose them.

Typically that just means someone bought them before you did. If you don't see seat numbers in your cart, then the tickets aren't actually "carted" -- it's whoever checkouts out first gets them and the others will get an error. It's a way they (kind of) battle the bots.
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I think we will learn very early in the series that Gafford will not be able to play much. We will probably need to switch everything on the perimeter and that means Gafford won't be effective defensively. Maybe his only minutes come while Kornet is playing for Boston, and who knows if Boston will play him at all.

There isn't anybody we can sag off of. Lively can guard most guys on their team, so he should be ok. Look for big Maxi minutes, with most coming at the 5.

Everybody will have to be locked in on every possession on defense. They can all shoot and they will cut backdoor and get layups all game if you shade out too hard or fall asleep for a split second.
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Proposition Joe said:

zgolfz85 said:

had two all the way through 200s for 1k each...only to have a Ticketmaster error and lose them.

Typically that just means someone bought them before you did. If you don't see seat numbers in your cart, then the tickets aren't actually "carted" -- it's whoever checkouts out first gets them and the others will get an error. It's a way they (kind of) battle the bots.


Had seat numbers, had the same thing happen on another pair
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So Luka comes out and drops 20 pts in the 1st, and we play great team defense.
Kyrie scores 15 in the 2nd and we keep playing great team defense.
Love it
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Greatness as usual.

Anyone not consuming all Slightly content is missing out.
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If the Mavs pull this off, I'll have a small dilemma. The old logo is the only one I've ever worn. It's infinity better than anything since. Hope they make some gear with it on there.
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That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
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The M wearing a cowboy hat?
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ChoppinDs40 said:

The M wearing a cowboy hat?


Yep. It's iconic like the Milwaukee Brewers mb-glove.
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
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94chem said:

ChoppinDs40 said:

The M wearing a cowboy hat?


Yep. It's iconic like the Milwaukee Brewers mb-glove.

I've really liked a handful of jerseys over the last 20 years, but the logo has always been a pain point. For jerseys and for hats and shirts
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PatAg said:

94chem said:

ChoppinDs40 said:

The M wearing a cowboy hat?


Yep. It's iconic like the Milwaukee Brewers mb-glove.

I've really liked a handful of jerseys over the last 20 years, but the logo has always been a pain point. For jerseys and for hats and shirts


More of a Steve Nash trash bag jersey guy?
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Guitarsoup said:

PatAg said:

94chem said:

ChoppinDs40 said:

The M wearing a cowboy hat?


Yep. It's iconic like the Milwaukee Brewers mb-glove.

I've really liked a handful of jerseys over the last 20 years, but the logo has always been a pain point. For jerseys and for hats and shirts


More of a Steve Nash trash bag jersey guy?


Interestingly those actually don't look that bad in person, but were horrendous on tv
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I think we will learn very early in the series that Gafford will not be able to play much. We will probably need to switch everything on the perimeter and that means Gafford won't be effective defensively. Maybe his only minutes come while Kornet is playing for Boston, and who knows if Boston will play him at all.

There isn't anybody we can sag off of. Lively can guard most guys on their team, so he should be ok. Look for big Maxi minutes, with most coming at the 5.

Everybody will have to be locked in on every possession on defense. They can all shoot and they will cut backdoor and get layups all game if you shade out too hard or fall asleep for a split second.
This is definitely not the best matchup for Gafford. However, I have seen enough Mavs small ball this year that frankly, I don't think the Mavs really have a choice but to stay big. If the Mavs try to match Boston with small ball (Maxi or PJ at the 5) then this series is probably cooked. Boston is the ultimate small ball team, you just aren't going to beat them at their own game. Playing Powell and Maxi for so many minutes the first half of the year is why the Mavs were barely above .500 for so long. You just can't play this game with no rim protection and no rebounding.

Yes you will give up perimeter defense but the Mavs need to stay big and make it an advantage. Playing Gafford/Lively for 48 minutes gives you the chance to keep them out of the paint and more importantly win the rebounding advantage. Probably the underrated key to this series is the Mavs staying big and winning on the boards much the same way they did against OKC. The main things I'm watching for:

1. Stay big and win the rebounding advantage
2. Boston is one of the best teams at generating turnovers but the Mavs don't turn it over much. Keep the turnovers low (~12 per game).
3. Let's be real, if the Mavs win its because of Luka just played like the best player in basketball. We've seen him do it before. We're talking 30+/8+/8+.
4. Boston 3 point shooting variance. I expect the Mavs to play big and Boston to be able to scramble the Mavs defense and generate open 3's. Mavs need them to shoot closer to 35% for the series instead of 40%.
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The more I look at the numbers and advanced stats, it's unfortunately becoming more and more clear what a big upset it would be for Dallas to win. Even based on post-deadline data, they'd be either the 4th or 5th biggest underdog to win the Finals since the NBA/ABA merger in 1976. Moreover, this Boston team by virtually every metric is one of the 15 best Finals teams since the merger and the other 14 are 13-1. The only caveat is that the Eastern conference this year is extremely weak, one of the 10 weakest conferences in modern history, and that skews the data a bit.

The reality is that for Dallas to win this series Boston will have to significantly deviate statistically from the rest of their season over a 7 game series, and Luka will have to GOAT like few have before. Dallas can't beat Boston 4 times in 7 games with their best showing by itself, they will need help in the form of Boston choking (or whatever you want to call it). If Porzingis is healthy Boston has 5 of the 7 best players in the series and they are capable of rolling out 40+ minutes per night of a combination of five guys who can both defend and hit the three above the league average. No team has ever had that combination in history.

The reason they are so good is because it's relatively rare for enough of their good players to have an off night in unison that they still can't beat you with just whoever is on. When your 7th best player is a future HOFer who randomly drops 25 in playoff games, you're really ****ing good.
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**** em, we winning
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That was basically Bill Simmons argument, that it would be a historic upset so go with the numbers. I'd argue the big caveats are a really weak eastern conference that Boston has feasted on (and ridiculous injuries in the playoffs) as well as a Mavericks team that completely remade itself mid-season.

Then add in that Dallas has the best best player in the series and probably an inside the paint advantage and I'm feeling like this is a coin flip type of series.
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It's definitely not a coin flip, Boston on their game is a good bit better than even the best version we've seen of the Mavericks. That's as much a statistical fact as such a thing can be, given it's a statement made on an aggregation of different data. The late 90s Bulls, peak Staph/Klay Warriors and peak 80s Celtics (really just '86) are the only squads clearly better than this team. They measure up to and are in many ways better than any Lakers team from the 80s or the early 2000s three peat, and the first three peat Bulls.

Having the best player in the series is a bit of a unique thing here, as very often the best player is also on the better team in those Finals matchups with heavy odds one way. Having the best player in a series matters a lot. But Lebron was the best player in every series against Golden State and went 1-3 (and would be 0-4 if Curry hadn't gotten hurt).

The hope can be found in Luka, what Tatum has historically done when the lights at the brightest, Porzingis' questionable health/effectiveness and the fact that Dallas as currently constructed is a wholly unique experience as far as NBA matchups go. Dallas has two ball dominant scorers who can both go for 30+ points, 10+ assists and sometimes do both in the same night and they combine it with two elite interior defenders and lob threats. Nobody else is built like that and it presents a unique challenge.

But ultimately this will still come down to how well Boston shoots the three when we turn them loose on the pick and pop. If they shoot to their season average Dallas cannot beat them.
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AndersHolmvik said:

That was basically Bill Simmons argument, that it would be a historic upset so go with the numbers. I'd argue the big caveats are a really weak eastern conference that Boston has feasted on (and ridiculous injuries in the playoffs) as well as a Mavericks team that completely remade itself mid-season.

Then add in that Dallas has the best best player in the series and probably an inside the paint advantage and I'm feeling like this is a coin flip type of series.
Some very smart basketball people like Tim Legler have picked the Mavs and that has made me get my hopes up probably a little more than I should. But I keep coming back to how good this Boston team is. And not only that, they play a style that is a really bad matchup for us. They play 5-out like OKC, but OKC almost always had one guy on the court who was a below average shooter. Boston won't have that. They don't have anyone that Gafford or even Luka can guard that allows those guys to roam. Luka will have to be locked in on every defensive possession. Who knows if that will have a deleterious effect on his offense.

One of the big pieces we added at the deadline in Gafford will probably be rendered useless. He isn't fast enough to guard on the perimeter and he isn't skilled enough offensively to be trusted against a switching defense. And if PJ shoots like he did in the Minnesota series then we won't have a chance. He needs to shoot how he did against OKC.

We will need some help from Boston. Need them to shoot around league average from 3 for the series. Need Tatum to decide to settle for mid range and 3 point step backs rather than attack. Need Jaylen Brown to forget how to dribble with his left hand again. Need KP to not be 100%.

If we can keep the games close until the end then I will feel decent about our chances. The issue is that Boston can run away and hide really early with how good their 3 point shooting is.
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That's exactly right, the criticism of Boston is complacency particularly late in games. They tend to stagnate and stand around watching Brown and Tatum dribble for 20 seconds. It's a very odd trend but it's been consistent for years now including at times this season. Tatum is also a notoriously poor jump shooter in close games. His shooting % on anything beyond 18 feet plummets in the final 5 minutes of close games.

If Dallas can turn this series into Luka/Kyrie vs Tatum/Brown in the final few minutes over and over again then they have a good chance. But keeping these games close for 40+ minutes to get there night after night will be EXTREMELY hard. I think it was JJ Reddick that point out the toughest part about playing a 7 game series against this Boston team is that their shooting metrics mean they're going to absolutely run away with 1 or 2 games just on the basis of three point shooting. A couple times in this series they will probably blow us out just because they get on heaters they so routinely get on and hit so many threes we have no chance. Which means you're left trying to essentially win 4 out of 5 or 6.
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I'm definitely expecting at least one magnets game for them. They will shoot over 50% from 3 on 45+ attempts and win by 20+ easily. If that number gets to 2 then that is very bad news.

It's going to feel so pressure packed in the close games because we basically have to have the close ones.
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We also have never seen Luka on this stage. My gut tells me he will take it to another level because he is a killer. Tatum and Brown are not killers the same way Luka is.

We need everybody on the team to come along for the ride Luka is going to take us on.
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Also perfect timing just hearing this from Followill: Mavs are 18-7 in the super clutch this season and Boston is 13-12. Interesting that they are a coin flip team when the game is within one shot in the final 2 minutes.
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