*** NBA 2023 Off-Season Thread ***

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Shams says 25 games for Morant.
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Woj said 2 games. Looks like a typo. Shams is officially replacing Woj as king.
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Lol they'd be awful
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Which team?

I honestly don't think Beal would move the needle much for either team and would just deplete depth in the process.
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The suns would be in eternal cap hell and be awful
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Beal for Cameron Payne and DeAndre Ayton works financially, but adds another 8mm to the suns' already awful cap situation.

Cut or trade paul for the savings.

Durant
Shamet
Booker
Beal

And.... nothing else.
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Chris Haynes is saying Chris Paul + Landry Schamet for Beal.
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Miami's offer is Kyle Lowry and either Duncan Robinson or Dipo
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Beal to Phoenix done!
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Starting 5:

Ayton (32.5mm)
Durant (46.4mm)
Beal (46.7mm)
Booker (36mm)
Cameron Payne (6.5mm)

Also under contract:
Ishmail Wainright (team option - 2mm)

$168.1 mm if they waive Ish Wainright.

Luxury Tax Line: $162mm
Apron line: $169mm
2nd Apron: $179.5mm

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Match the point guard with the team they have played for or been traded to:

A. Chris Paul
B. Russell Westbrook
C. John Wall



1. Clippers
2. Rockets
3. Wizards

(Please have John Wall end up on the Thunder somehow, so a 4th team could be added)
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I have to say that I really can't ****ing wait to see this Suns team melt down and never win, just like Durant's Brooklyn team and Durant's OKC team.
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I can't believe how low the ask was for Beal..
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Lake08 said:

I can't believe how low the ask was for Beal..
He had a no-trade clause, so he could make them trade him for a tuna sandwich if he wanted.
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Draymond officially declining his option to become a FA.
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Charlotte makes some sense for Zion as does Portland.

With Portland I can 100% see them convincing themselves that Zion's the best available piece out there to pair with Dame. Realistically no one else is available, and if the trade is

Portland:
Zion plus lottery protected picks

New Orleans:
Number 3 overall pick +
Simons or Grant to make the money work

Then I think both sides say yes to this trade. The one hold up is probably that NO will want to wait to make sure that Charlotte doesn't take Scoot before they execute the trade.

It's easy to make fun of Zion for his lack of urgency to play, but supposing that it's all a misunderstanding and he's about to be the generational talent consistently that he looks like when he does rarely play, then the trade is a steal for the Blazers. Especially because Scoot is a terrible fit for how their roster is built right now. They have 75 million in Dame and Simons, and last year's pick Sharpe looks good too. Scoot would be underutilized on that team.

Of course, Zion might just be the fat loser he comes off as and never play in Portland either.

ETA

If Portland gets good Zion, they can legitimately say they are a championship contender next year. You do this trade to win Championships. Next year with Scoot, they are still rebuilding while Scoot learns the ropes. Sometimes you gamble on the chance to win.
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Heard where Bill Simmons said the Rockets should could give up Jalen Green, the 4 pick, and two future firsts from Brooklyn for Zion and the 27th pick? IMO, Simmons has been trash since right around before Grantland launched, so this is all fodder. But I can't think of another major basketball media guy that dislikes the Rockets more than Simmons besides early TNT Charles Barkley.

I like Jalen Green, but I don't love him so I'm not overvaluing based on homerism - but LMFAO at this trade prop.
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Head Ninja In Charge said:

Heard where Bill Simmons said the Rockets should could give up Jalen Green, the 4 pick, and two future firsts from Brooklyn for Zion and the 27th pick? IMO, Simmons has been trash since right around before Grantland launched, so this is all fodder. But I can't think of another major basketball media guy that dislikes the Rockets more than Simmons besides early TNT Charles Barkley.

I like Jalen Green, but I don't love him so I'm not overvaluing based on homerism - but LMFAO at this trade prop.
It's a bad trade, and NOLA doesn't want #4, they want Scoot.
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AggieEP said:

Charlotte makes some sense for Zion as does Portland.

With Portland I can 100% see them convincing themselves that Zion's the best available piece out there to pair with Dame. Realistically no one else is available, and if the trade is

Portland:
Zion plus lottery protected picks

New Orleans:
Number 3 overall pick +
Simons or Grant to make the money work

Then I think both sides say yes to this trade. The one hold up is probably that NO will want to wait to make sure that Charlotte doesn't take Scoot before they execute the trade.

It's easy to make fun of Zion for his lack of urgency to play, but supposing that it's all a misunderstanding and he's about to be the generational talent consistently that he looks like when he does rarely play, then the trade is a steal for the Blazers. Especially because Scoot is a terrible fit for how their roster is built right now. They have 75 million in Dame and Simons, and last year's pick Sharpe looks good too. Scoot would be underutilized on that team.

Of course, Zion might just be the fat loser he comes off as and never play in Portland either.

ETA

If Portland gets good Zion, they can legitimately say they are a championship contender next year. You do this trade to win Championships. Next year with Scoot, they are still rebuilding while Scoot learns the ropes. Sometimes you gamble on the chance to win.
IF Zion put together a full season, he's All-NBA. Don't think the Pellies are adding picks to that.

Grant is a S&T, so he would have to agree to it. Nurkic is attached to any trade of #3 by default.

I don't think NOLA trades Zion for 3 if Scoot goes #2.
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Lol, it's an asinine trade proposal. Zion's value is nothing more than 1 good first round pick plus whatever balances the contract money. If Charlotte wants him, I'm pretty sure #2 plus Hayward gets it done as the major framework. Zion's a great player, but he doesn't play and he's got a huge contract attached to him. Both of these severely limit his value.

Also, stories about him knocking up porn stars don't help his value either.
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Vegas developer proposing NBA arena as part of $10B project.

Plans for a 20,000-seat arena as part of a $3 billion hotel, gaming and entertainment district near the intersection of Las Vegas Boulevard and Blue Diamond Road have grown substantially.

The arena is now part of a 66-acre planned development, more than two-and-a-half times the size of the original parcel, and the project's budget has a $10 billion price tag all privately financed.
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Iowaggie said:

Vegas developer proposing NBA arena as part of $10B project.

Plans for a 20,000-seat arena as part of a $3 billion hotel, gaming and entertainment district near the intersection of Las Vegas Boulevard and Blue Diamond Road have grown substantially.

The arena is now part of a 66-acre planned development, more than two-and-a-half times the size of the original parcel, and the project's budget has a $10 billion price tag all privately financed.


Reports of James Harden being in a gym to try to extend his NBA career by 10 more years.
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Enzo The Baker said:

Iowaggie said:

Vegas developer proposing NBA arena as part of $10B project.

Plans for a 20,000-seat arena as part of a $3 billion hotel, gaming and entertainment district near the intersection of Las Vegas Boulevard and Blue Diamond Road have grown substantially.

The arena is now part of a 66-acre planned development, more than two-and-a-half times the size of the original parcel, and the project's budget has a $10 billion price tag all privately financed.


Reports of James Harden being in a gym to try to extend his NBA career by 10 more years.
The Gym:

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Cap numbers for next season reported..

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Slam ball back

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How soon will there be a major betting scandal surrounding Slam Ball and can we bet on that too?
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Guitarsoup said:



How in the world does Boston have room to take on that contract?
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Enzo The Baker said:

Guitarsoup said:



How in the world does Boston have room to take on that contract?


Brogdon and Danilo for Kristaps works financially before July 1. Adds 6.7mm to bottom line
 
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