***2021 Fantasy Hoops Thread***

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ClutchCityAg
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Aggie09Derek said:

Which of my guys think I could get to package for him that would help my 5 keepers going forward?

Think would go for Green/Tobias?

That would still leave me with 6 "keepers" for next year but then could try to leverage that at the end of the year for someone else.
Green/Tobias is a good start. Maybe take advantage of the rookie hype with Wagner also. People love rookies in dynasty but realistically they wont reach their peak till their 2nd or 3rd year so you can use that sort of market inefficiency to your advantage.

Right now Id say you should keep Harden, LaMelo, Zion, and Mobley for sure. That 5th spot is what your playing with here.

Obviously you want to try and compete this year if you can, but you gotta treat everyone beyond those top 4 as "expendable" because you won't own them next year. So overpaying is totally fine if it means you get a better keeper in your 5th spot.

Find teams that aren't competing this year and offer them the top rookies like Franz, Sengun, and Green. If Ingram is your 5th keeper and you see Edwards or someone else as an upgrade over him, then sending Ingram plus Green would still be a net positive from a long term POV.

Edit: even Zion you could explore trading, idk if this weight thing is a long
Saint Pablo
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Is Saddiq Bey droppable to make room for a streamer?
ClutchCityAg
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Saint Pablo said:

Is Saddiq Bey droppable to make room for a streamer?

I just dropped him to stream in my league. Higher upside than most streamers but so inconsistent
Saint Pablo
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Just cut him. I'm about to lose my second game in a row thanks to injuries and illness…I drafted Zion, Pascal, and Klay who are all on IR. Since the draft Middleton got COVID, Brogdon got hurt then sick, and last night AD played like 5 minutes and got sick…wtf?
ClutchCityAg
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Dang thats tough... all you can do is just stream like crazy. Don't get too attached to guys you pick up since you know you will have multiple guys coming off IL to take their spots anyways
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ClutchCityAg said:

Dang thats tough... all you can do is just stream like crazy. Don't get too attached to guys you pick up since you know you will have multiple guys coming off IL to take their spots anyways
Yeah I let Saddiq Bey and Tyrese Maxey go Saturday to steam in Cody Martin and DRose who have b2bs yesterday and today. Going to cut them both after tip tonight so that I can stream in guys for tomorrow. Siakam coming back was huge for me. Hopefully no more missed games from AD or Brogdon.
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Saint Pablo said:

ClutchCityAg said:

Dang thats tough... all you can do is just stream like crazy. Don't get too attached to guys you pick up since you know you will have multiple guys coming off IL to take their spots anyways
Yeah I let Saddiq Bey and Tyrese Maxey go Saturday to steam in Cody Martin and DRose who have b2bs yesterday and today. Going to cut them both after tip tonight so that I can stream in guys for tomorrow. Siakam coming back was huge for me. Hopefully no more missed games from AD or Brogdon.
Nice move using the b2bs to get extra streams. Id look at getting Maxey back bc Embiid might have covid
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ClutchCityAg said:

Saint Pablo said:

ClutchCityAg said:

Dang thats tough... all you can do is just stream like crazy. Don't get too attached to guys you pick up since you know you will have multiple guys coming off IL to take their spots anyways
Yeah I let Saddiq Bey and Tyrese Maxey go Saturday to steam in Cody Martin and DRose who have b2bs yesterday and today. Going to cut them both after tip tonight so that I can stream in guys for tomorrow. Siakam coming back was huge for me. Hopefully no more missed games from AD or Brogdon.
Nice move using the b2bs to get extra streams. Id look at getting Maxey back bc Embiid might have covid
Yeah just saw his schedule for this week and am mad I cut him lol
Saint Pablo
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Owning Luka is not fun this year. Glad Jason Kidd's dumbass can ruin my real team and fantasy team.
ClutchCityAg
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Saint Pablo said:

Owning Luka is not fun this year. Glad Jason Kidd's dumbass can ruin my real team and fantasy team.
haha yeah... owning Kristaps not great either, shouldve just faded that whole team
Saint Pablo
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Not even my streamers can be spared from injury bugs. I grabbed Seth Curry and he is now DTD. lol
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Might hold onto Maxey for a bit.
ClutchCityAg
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Saint Pablo said:

Might hold onto Maxey for a bit.
Yeah what a game!
Saint Pablo
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Was just offered Anthony Edwards for Evan Mobley and Klay Thompson...thoughts? I'm thinking no.
ClutchCityAg
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Saint Pablo said:

Was just offered Anthony Edwards for Evan Mobley and Klay Thompson...thoughts? I'm thinking no.


Actually.. that's pretty fair. Could go either way, but I think I remember your league really values FG%. Even when klay returns he is going to rest a lot so I kinda just view this trade as Mobley for Edwards. I lean Edwards but not sure about your scoring format.
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ClutchCityAg said:

Saint Pablo said:

Was just offered Anthony Edwards for Evan Mobley and Klay Thompson...thoughts? I'm thinking no.


Actually.. that's pretty fair. Could go either way, but I think I remember your league really values FG%. Even when klay returns he is going to rest a lot so I kinda just view this trade as Mobley for Edwards. I lean Edwards but not sure about your scoring format.
So we actually adjusted things closer to the ESPN standard so it favors scorers way more than it did last year. I'm heavily debating
Saint Pablo
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Is Jaren Jackson Jr. droppable? Or Josh Giddey?
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Saint Pablo said:

Is Jaren Jackson Jr. droppable? Or Josh Giddey?
I probably wouldn't drop either of them unless I had to. They are both around top 75 area, with good upside.

If those are who you have to drop, then your roster must be doing really well
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ClutchCityAg said:

Saint Pablo said:

Is Jaren Jackson Jr. droppable? Or Josh Giddey?
I probably wouldn't drop either of them unless I had to. They are both around top 75 area, with good upside.

If those are who you have to drop, then your roster must be doing really well
Right now, Seth Curry is the worst player on my roster, but I am streaming that slot.

When Khris Middleton comes back Wednesday, I won't be able to stream unless I make a trade or cut someone. No one is being very responsive when it comes to trades, so I am not sure what to do. Just not stream for a bit? Or cut someone.
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Saint Pablo said:

ClutchCityAg said:

Saint Pablo said:

Is Jaren Jackson Jr. droppable? Or Josh Giddey?
I probably wouldn't drop either of them unless I had to. They are both around top 75 area, with good upside.

If those are who you have to drop, then your roster must be doing really well
Right now, Seth Curry is the worst player on my roster, but I am streaming that slot.

When Khris Middleton comes back Wednesday, I won't be able to stream unless I make a trade or cut someone. No one is being very responsive when it comes to trades, so I am not sure what to do. Just not stream for a bit? Or cut someone.


Well.. are you winning your matchups so far? Maybe offer JJJ and Giddey to someone for who is top 50-60?
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ClutchCityAg said:

Saint Pablo said:

ClutchCityAg said:

Saint Pablo said:

Is Jaren Jackson Jr. droppable? Or Josh Giddey?
I probably wouldn't drop either of them unless I had to. They are both around top 75 area, with good upside.

If those are who you have to drop, then your roster must be doing really well
Right now, Seth Curry is the worst player on my roster, but I am streaming that slot.

When Khris Middleton comes back Wednesday, I won't be able to stream unless I make a trade or cut someone. No one is being very responsive when it comes to trades, so I am not sure what to do. Just not stream for a bit? Or cut someone.


Well.. are you winning your matchups so far? Maybe offer JJJ and Giddey to someone for who is top 50-60?
I am 2-2. I have the most points for by over 400 points, but my two losses were to literally the only teams in the league that could have beat me those weeks and it was when I was struggling with guys being O or DTD when my IR Was full.
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Is Mikal Bridges droppable? I have no active players tonight. I want to open up either a streaming spot, or drop him so I can activate Levert off my IR. (Is he droppable too?)

I want to open a streaming spot for Jordan Poole or Bledsoe today.
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I would say yes, but I am in an ESPN points league so that may be different than what you play.

Generally, I have been considering anybody that averages 30 or less FPPG to be droppable.
COAg15
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Not points, but categories. He's ok? I realized I've been sitting him if I have a full roster of players with games that day.
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COAg15 said:

Not points, but categories. He's ok? I realized I've been sitting him if I have a full roster of players with games that day.
I have never played cats, so I probably am not the best guy to ask. Looking at his numbers, I would assume you'd be fine to cut him to activate Levert, but Clutch or AggieDerek would prob be able to tell you better than me.
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COAg15 said:

Not points, but categories. He's ok? I realized I've been sitting him if I have a full roster of players with games that day.
I love him in categories, he gives you steals and blocks while still scoring efficiently. He is a staple of my dynasty team. That being said.. we have a deep league and my team build heavily emphasizes defensive stats.

I would drop someone more replaceable if possible. You can always find threes and rebounds on waivers, but the combination of scoring and defense is pretty hard to find and a valuable one.

Certain guys who get combos of rare stat categories are extremely valuable. Like look at KAT (Threes & Blocks) or Jokic (Assists, Threes, & Blocks). There are only a handful of guys who are able to get high volume of those categories together, so they are very valuable.
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ClutchCityAg
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Saint Pablo said:

I would say yes, but I am in an ESPN points league so that may be different than what you play.

Generally, I have been considering anybody that averages 30 or less FPPG to be droppable.
30 FPPG is about the line for my league too
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ClutchCityAg
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Saint Pablo said:

ClutchCityAg said:

Saint Pablo said:

ClutchCityAg said:

Saint Pablo said:

Is Jaren Jackson Jr. droppable? Or Josh Giddey?
I probably wouldn't drop either of them unless I had to. They are both around top 75 area, with good upside.

If those are who you have to drop, then your roster must be doing really well
Right now, Seth Curry is the worst player on my roster, but I am streaming that slot.

When Khris Middleton comes back Wednesday, I won't be able to stream unless I make a trade or cut someone. No one is being very responsive when it comes to trades, so I am not sure what to do. Just not stream for a bit? Or cut someone.


Well.. are you winning your matchups so far? Maybe offer JJJ and Giddey to someone for who is top 50-60?
I am 2-2. I have the most points for by over 400 points, but my two losses were to literally the only teams in the league that could have beat me those weeks and it was when I was struggling with guys being O or DTD when my IR Was full.
Hmm, Id say that this early in the season with your team contending that you could try not streaming for a week or 2 and see if someone else picks up an injury or you can swing a trade.

If people aren't responsive on trades though.. you could probably drop someone who is slumping and eventually get them back or find another gem off waivers later on.

JJJ did have a nice game last night, Id keep him over Giddey most likely.
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I'm trying to also figure if there's anyone else available to drop, or package any guys in a trade. I am in a 8 Team 8 CAT league (no turnovers). FG%, FT%, 3PM, Reb, Ast, Stl, Blk, Pts

My roster (have posted before):
- Giannis PF
- Trae Young PG
- Sabonis PF, C
- Miles Bridges SF, PF
- Cole Anthony PG
- Tyrese Haliburton PG, SG
- Gordon Hayward SF (would want to package him into something)
- OG Anunoby (so shocked he's still this hot) SF, PF
- Clint Capela C (would want to package him into something)
- Valanciunas C
- Richaun Holmes C, PF
- Jrue Holiday PG, SG
- Caris LeVert SG, SF
- Mikal Bridges PF

Saint Pablo
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Well as soon as Khris Middleton returns, Evan Mobley gets hurt so I guess I don't have to cut anyone to activate Middleton now.
Saint Pablo
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And now Luka is expected to miss time so I am going to be hurting again pretty bad.
ClutchCityAg
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Saint Pablo said:

And now Luka is expected to miss time so I am going to be hurting again pretty bad.
Damn thats rough, luckily its early in the season so they can return for you.
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ClutchCityAg
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COAg15 said:

I'm trying to also figure if there's anyone else available to drop, or package any guys in a trade. I am in a 8 Team 8 CAT league (no turnovers). FG%, FT%, 3PM, Reb, Ast, Stl, Blk, Pts

My roster (have posted before):
- Giannis PF
- Trae Young PG
- Sabonis PF, C
- Miles Bridges SF, PF
- Cole Anthony PG
- Tyrese Haliburton PG, SG
- Gordon Hayward SF (would want to package him into something)
- OG Anunoby (so shocked he's still this hot) SF, PF
- Clint Capela C (would want to package him into something)
- Valanciunas C
- Richaun Holmes C, PF
- Jrue Holiday PG, SG
- Caris LeVert SG, SF
- Mikal Bridges PF


Sorry for the late reply, busy day at work.

Your team is pretty elite, everyone is top 80ish so should be rostered in your league.

I would focus on 5-6 categories as your strengths, then identify players who are less valuable to you than other people. Then you can start to put together trades.

My dynasty team for example (8 CAT same as yours), I have decided to punt FT% and focus on Pts, Reb, Ast, Steals, and Blocks. An important detail here is that the Points Category is the tiebreaker if a matchup is 4-4, so if you aren't winning points then you have to win 5 categories to win the matchup vs 4 if you do - huge difference.

A good example from your team is Clint Capela. In standard 8 cat rankings he is around 60th to 80th to100th for ROS ranks depending where you look. But when you punt FT% and essentially make it 7 cats, he is around 30th-50th overall for ROS.
Also Trae Young is around 20th overall, but when you take FT% out of the equation he is about the 50th overall player.
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Saint Pablo
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Just fell to 2-3...desperately need to make some moves to free up some space on the IR and to stream....any ideas? I have the most points for by over 400 and every week that I have lost has been a week where A) I have a player get hurt midweek and I can't stick him in my IR AND B) my opponent has their best week of the season. Unreal start and I am so frustrated.

Luka
AD
Ja Morant
Khris Middleton
CJ McCollum
Malcolm Brogdon
Will Barton
WCJ
Josh Giddey
JJJ
Tyrese Maxey
Pascal Siakam
Patrick Beverley

IR
Zion
Klay
Evan Mobley
ClutchCityAg
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Saint Pablo said:

Just fell to 2-3...desperately need to make some moves to free up some space on the IR and to stream....any ideas? I have the most points for by over 400 and every week that I have lost has been a week where A) I have a player get hurt midweek and I can't stick him in my IR AND B) my opponent has their best week of the season. Unreal start and I am so frustrated.

Luka
AD
Ja Morant
Khris Middleton
CJ McCollum
Malcolm Brogdon
Will Barton
WCJ
Josh Giddey
JJJ
Tyrese Maxey
Pascal Siakam
Patrick Beverley

IR
Zion
Klay
Evan Mobley
Rest of Season rank (per game value) next to their name (based off yahoo points format)

Luka - 4
AD - 5
Ja - 19
Brogdon - 31
Siakam - 32
Zion - 40
Mobley - 53
McCollum - 54
Middleton - 58
JJJ - 67
WCJ - 68
Giddey - 74
Maxey - 86
Barton - 90

I think you can cut Klay if you need room, he will play low minutes when he first gets back anyways.
Id try to sell high on Maxey (maybe package w Giddey or WCJ) and get someone who is solidly top 60 similar to where middleton and Mobley are.

Beverly is a good streamer for now, been playing well.

Some players to consider buying low on:
Wood
Fox
Embiid
SGA
Ingram
Randle
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