Curry is not human.

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I felt for OKC fans watching that game. So frustrating.
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On the gamewinner, you feel bad for the guy stuck trying to defend him. Meet him at half court and Curry has enough time for three dribbles to shake him, which he can do to anyone. Don't meet him at half court and he pulls up for a 32 foot layup. There is no answer for Curry one on one on a fast break.
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32 foot layup.


Pretty good description.
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He's amazing. I'm tired of the old NBA greats trying to discount him. Jordan never did anything like this offensively.
except average 30 points per game for his entire career.
Jordan averaged 37 point per game for a season... and 35 the next. Curry is going to be 400 points (+/-) short of that.

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Curry is averaging 32.6 per 36 min... Jordan was 33.6 per 36 min.

Much closer than I thought.


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It does help when almost every shot you make is a 3.
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Jordan's best single season TS% was .614. Curry is sitting at .685 this year. For eFG%, Curry is over 9 points better than Jordan's best season. Huge gap, and it's the threes that do it. Jordan was a fairly bad three point shooter.
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Jordan's best single season TS% was .614. Curry is sitting at .685 this year. For eFG%, Curry is over 9 points better than Jordan's best season. Huge gap, and it's the threes that do it. Jordan was a fairly bad three point shooter.

Shooting 33% from three isn't what I would consider "fairly bad" shooting.
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I dont know what league efficiency was in the 90s, but today 32.7% is losing basketball. He was under 30% for 9 of his 14 full seasons (mostly taking very few threes), although he did get up around 40% and 111 makes for a couple years.. Jordan was better all around, but it's fair to say that Curry can do things Jordan never dreamed of (and vice versa). They are about as different as guards can be.
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Curry is doing stuff no one would dream of.

If I told you ten years ago that there would be a player that hits over 40% of his threes from 30+ feet and makes 400 threes in a season, you would have never believed it.

In 1995, Dennis Scott became the first player to break 250 threes in a season. In 2013, Steph Curry became the first person to break 270 threes in a season.

It is really beyond incredible what he is doing.
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Not sure what Pop will come up with to defend this guy..but he's Pop..he's gonna have a plan and he's not going to show his hand until the conference finals..and on that note..can we just disqualify the East right now and make the WCF the NBA Finals?
Robert Horry hipcheck
Brian Earl Spilner
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One thing that is worth mentioning - Kawhi is still leading the league in 3P%.
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Not exactly fair comparison. There was no 3 point line in most basketball until after 1980. Jordan's formidable years were without it.

Pistol Pete played his last year; the 1st year of the 3 point line in the NBA and shot something like 75%. (Very small sample).

I don't think coaches learned to use it until a decade later and then there were still not many who grew up with it. I believe GS is the first team that uses it to its full potential.

My 6th grade son shoots a better in game % than I did as a senior in HS. It's a different game.

Apples and oranges. Curry is amazing and their has never been one like him, but there will be some to follow.
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Not exactly fair comparison. There was no 3 point line in most basketball until after 1980. Jordan's formidable years were without it.

Pistol Pete played his last year; the 1st year of the 3 point line in the NBA and shot something like 75%. (Very small sample).

I don't think coaches learned to use it until a decade later and then there were still not many who grew up with it. I believe GS is the first team that uses it to its full potential.

My 6th grade son shoots a better in game % than I did as a senior in HS. It's a different game.

Apples and oranges. Curry is amazing and their has never been one like him, but there will be some to follow.

Morey has had the Rockets bombing away for like four years now. No mid-range.
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But anyways, Steph Curry is something else. I've never seen anything like it. What he does in an actual NBA game is what Durant did at the Rucker a few years ago. That's what it reminds me of. This video, but for 82 games.

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Love watching him play. There will always be the next bigger/faster/more explosive player that dominates. But what Curry is doing and how he's doing it is something we may never see again. I don't know how one couldn't appreciate seeing it.
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Not exactly fair comparison. There was no 3 point line in most basketball until after 1980. Jordan's formidable years were without it.

Pistol Pete played his last year; the 1st year of the 3 point line in the NBA and shot something like 75%. (Very small sample).

I don't think coaches learned to use it until a decade later and then there were still not many who grew up with it. I believe GS is the first team that uses it to its full potential.

My 6th grade son shoots a better in game % than I did as a senior in HS. It's a different game.

Apples and oranges. Curry is amazing and their has never been one like him, but there will be some to follow.

Morey has had the Rockets bombing away for like four years now. No mid-range.
Plenty of teams have used stats to realize that threes are better than midrange shots. The Rockets didn't lead that trend, they followed it. But no one has mastered the three like the Warriors. If someone had, it wouldn't be the Rockets, who shoot a ton but are thoroughly mediocre in 3 pt% percentage (15th, 14th, and 16th in the last three years).
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The 400 threes Curry is on the pace for is a 40% increase in the previous record.

That would be like if someone hit 102 HRs or rushed for 3000 yards this year. (Stats from 538)
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The 400 threes Curry is on the pace for is a 40% increase in the previous record.

That would be like if someone hit 102 HRs or rushed for 3000 yards this year. (Stats from 538)


Statistically "correct," but if we were to put weighted odds on those 3 separate records happening, I think most all of us would give 400 3's the highest chance of happening.

Still, Curry is on a ridiculous level, I agree to that. Just pointing out a flaw.
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Prior to Curry entering the league, a single player had more than 250 3s made a grand total of 3 times. Curry has done it each of the last 4 years.

Ray Allen and Dennis Scott did it. No one will ever guess the third person without looking it up.
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Rashard Lewis?
Guitarsoup
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Rashard Lewis?


He shot a ton, but only topped 175 twice with his highest at 226.
Ulrich
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Peja?
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Peja?


Another good guess, but not it. Peja topped 175 twice with his best being 240 to lead the league in 04.
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DAMMIT. Nope, I would not have guessed that.
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Jason Richardson

Nvm. I think he only did it once and it was an anomaly
Chipotlemonger
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Bruce Bowen
Guitarsoup
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Jason Richardson

Nvm. I think he only did it once and it was an anomaly
Richardson did lead the league in 08 with 243, but that was the only year he was over 200. He did have 183 and 189 in 06 and 11.
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Bruce Bowen
No Spur has ever topped 200 threes. Bowen never topped 105. He had between 101 and 104 in four seasons, which is pretty incredibly consistent.

Top Spurs are Green last year, Chuck Person in 96 and Green in 13. Those are the only three Spur seasons over 175. Roger Mason, Sean Elliott and Manu all had over 150.

Spurs are tied with Seattle for most 3pt% league leaders with 4. Kawhi is currently in the lead for this season, which would be #5 for the Spurs. No other team has more than 2.
Chipotlemonger
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Ha yea, I randomly threw that out there then went to check. Way off.
Head Ninja In Charge
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It's probably like Antoine Walker or something crazy.
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It's probably like Antoine Walker or something crazy.
He did have over 175 three times in 01, 02 and 03, topping out at 222 makes. He lead the league in attempts all three years.

He jacked up 1800 threes in those three seasons while shooting just .345. That's not human, either.

The player is even more obscure, though he did play in Texas for some of his career.
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I had to look it up, but George McCloud, 95-96 for the Mavs. Hmmm. Thompson was close last year at 239.
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Well, that made it fun.
PatAg
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I had to look it up, but George McCloud, 95-96 for the Mavs. Hmmm. Thompson was close last year at 239.
Is this how you normally do things? lol, supposed to be guessing.
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