Discussion tonight with friend: GSW '16 vs Spurs '14

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Chipotlemonger
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How would a 7 game series between the two go, at the very end of the season?
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I'll have to get back to this after the Warriors actually win it, however, the way they are playing now, I'm not sure they lose more than 1 game in the first two rounds of the playoffs combined, and I'm not sure they lose more than 3 games in the last two rounds of the playoffs combined. A lot can happen, especially injuries or out of the world play by an opponent, but they could have a historical playoff run.

The 96 Bulls lost just 3 games in the playoffs and won over 70 in the regular season (First round was still best of 5).

The 83 Sixers went Fo, Fo (+1), and Fo in their 3 rounds of playoffs in 1983 (won 65 games).

This Warriors team could top the Bulls regular season record, and potentially do like the 83 Sixers in plowing through the playoffs.

The discussion nationally is going to be, "How would the Warriors match up against the 96 Bulls" or other great teams. They could be discussed as best ever.
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14 Spurs probably the best team after those early 00's Lakers team, but at full strength the Warriors crush them.

I think this season's Spurs would crush the 14 Spurs too.
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14 Spurs probably the best team after those early 00's Lakers team, but at full strength the Warriors crush them.

I think this season's Spurs would crush the 14 Spurs too.


Lol. 90's Bulls would annihilate the 14 Spurs, or any other Spurs team for that matter.
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14 Spurs probably the best team after those early 00's Lakers team, but at full strength the Warriors crush them.

I think this season's Spurs would crush the 14 Spurs too.


Lol. 90's Bulls would annihilate the 14 Spurs, or any other Spurs team for that matter.


Shocker... a 90's basketball nuthugger struggles with reading comprehension.

But besides that, 90's Bulls = vastly overrated and won their titles in probably the most diluted talent period the league has ever seen.
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The Showtime Lakers spank all those fools.
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Decent chance the 14 Spurs wouldn't have won the West had Ibaka been healthy.
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Decent chance the 14 Spurs wouldn't have won the West had Ibaka been healthy.
And then he came back, and the Spurs beat them without Tony.

Nice try, though.
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Decent chance the 14 Spurs wouldn't have won the West had Ibaka been healthy.


Good one.
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GS is on pace to be one of the greatest teams of all time. I don't think the 14 Spurs compare all that well. GS is 4 or 5.
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Only if they win it all.
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Only if they win it all.
Correct. We won't know until the season is over, but they are on pace to do it.

And it coming after the dominated last year just enforces the dynasty they could be building.
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The 2014 Spurs went 16-7 during their playoff run. Plenty of NBA Champions have done better than that including Golden St last season and the Mavs in 2011.

The Warriors would crush any of those Spurs teams.
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Just because the record has another loss or two, by itself, doesn't say anything. You have to look at the teams all of these champions are playing during their run for the W/L to mean more.
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That is true. Still does not change the fact that the 2014 Spurs got taken to 7 games by an 8 seeded team. They are not some all time great NBA Champion. The 2011 Mavericks played tougher playoff competition than the Spurs and had a better (16-5) playoff record. No one took them to 7 games.

There are a bunch of other NBA Champions that have the same playoff record (16-7) as the 2014 Spurs.

OTOH the Golden St Warriors are an all time great team.They are the best team that I've seen since the Shaq/Kobe Lakers.
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Well, I guess if playoff win percentage is the only criterion, the '99 Spurs would destroy either of these teams.
Brian Earl Spilner
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How many teams would've destroyed that 2014 Heat team by a record-setting point differential?
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How many teams would've destroyed that 2014 Heat team by a record-setting point differential?


Some common sense. Thought it was gone from this board.
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Mavs fans always bring up that 2011 team like it was one of the greatest teams of all-time just because it's the only time they've ever seen the Mavs hold up a trophy.
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How many teams would've destroyed that 2014 Heat team by a record-setting point differential?
Wow! The same Miami Heat team that went 54-28 in a very weak Eastern Conference?

The 2014 Spurs got taken to 7 games by an 8 seeded team. That alone disqualifies them from any talk of being a GOAT sort of team.
How did the Spurs defend their title in 2015? By losing in the first round of the playoffs.



The 2015 Warriors went 67-15 and 16-5 in the playoffs. Both of those are better marks than the Spurs.

This year Golden St is threatening the 1995-96 Bulls of having the greatest regular season record of all time.

The only people that think the 2014 Spurs are an all time great are the insecure Spurs fans like the ones on this thread.
Despite the accomplishments of their incredible franchise, Spurs fans are constantly seeking validation. The folks on this thread are a clear example of that.

I understand where it comes from. The Spurs have always been overshadowed during their championship runs because they never won back to back. They were out shadowed by the Shaq/Kobe Lakers and then the Gasol/Kobe Lakers.
They were out shadowed by the Miami Heat and are now watching the Golden St Warriors become the new Alpha Dog in the NBA.

Spurs fans are very similar to Boston Red Sox fans. A Fantastic franchise that typically finds itself not as popular as other teams. This leads to a rather insecure fan base that is constantly seeking validation.
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Spurs fans are very similar to Boston Red Sox fans. A Fantastic franchise that typically finds itself not as popular as other teams. This leads to a rather insecure fan base that is constantly seeking validation.

Sox are easily at worst the 4th most popular team in the MLB. I would easily argue 2nd to only NY. They are nothing like the Spurs. I would say they are more similar to the As if the As won an occasional title.
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Chipotlemonger
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"Always seeking validation, posters on this thread are proof of that"

Yea, okay.

Also, Boston Red Sox not popular? Good lord!
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How many teams would've destroyed that 2014 Heat team by a record-setting point differential?
Wow! The same Miami Heat team that went 54-28 in a very weak Eastern Conference?

The 2014 Spurs got taken to 7 games by an 8 seeded team. That alone disqualifies them from any talk of being a GOAT sort of team.
How did the Spurs defend their title in 2015? By losing in the first round of the playoffs.



The 2015 Warriors went 67-15 and 16-5 in the playoffs. Both of those are better marks than the Spurs.

This year Golden St is threatening the 1995-96 Bulls of having the greatest regular season record of all time.

The only people that think the 2014 Spurs are an all time great are the insecure Spurs fans like the ones on this thread.
Despite the accomplishments of their incredible franchise, Spurs fans are constantly seeking validation. The folks on this thread are a clear example of that.

I understand where it comes from. The Spurs have always been overshadowed during their championship runs because they never won back to back. They were out shadowed by the Shaq/Kobe Lakers and then the Gasol/Kobe Lakers.
They were out shadowed by the Miami Heat and are now watching the Golden St Warriors become the new Alpha Dog in the NBA.

Spurs fans are very similar to Boston Red Sox fans. A Fantastic franchise that typically finds itself not as popular as other teams. This leads to a rather insecure fan base that is constantly seeking validation.


You are an idiot.

Don't post again.
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The 2014 spurs would murder the 2011 mavs, so bringing them up hurts your point. It definitely took the Spurs a few games to hit high gear that year, but i've only seen one team in the last 15 years approach their level of play from game 7 through the finals, and it's the Warriors this year. It would be a heck of a series for sure, and even as a Spurs fan I might have to bet on the Warriors. I'm not sure there is an answer to Steph Curry, not the way the game is called today.

EDIT: quoted instead of edited
Old School Rucking
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i've only seen one team in the last 15 years approach their level of play


The '08-'09 Lakers say hi
Ulrich
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Why, were they looking for some pointers?
Old School Rucking
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65-17 record and 16-7 in the postseason, outstanding team.

I'm guessing you picked 15 years to exclude the '01 Lakers 15-1 run thru the playoffs - including sweeping the top seeded Spurs by an average margin of victory = 22 points
Ulrich
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I picked 15 years because it's a round number and I'm not old enough to talk knowledgeably about teams before that. I don't care enough about whatever dusty old Lakers team you want to shoehorn into the discussion to carefully select a time period to exclude them.
Brian Earl Spilner
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This is not serious, is it?
Gregg Papivich
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There's a lot of butt hurt in this thread about Flagship franchise of the NBA
Brian Earl Spilner
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I love this sock so much.
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What everyone keeps failing to realize. The Spurs are on a record pace, far better than the 14 team. They lost one game in Feb. Lead the Warriors in differential. They will wrap up a playoff spot this week- record early time for organization. They will likely wrap up their own division before warriors wrap up their own- this week as well. They are only a few games behind the Warriors with 3 games left to play them, 2 of those at home. All this talk about the Warriors being the best team ever, and the Spurs have an actual legitimate chance to finish ahead of them. Yes Curry is in inhuman right now, but watch out people. Spurs have an absolute killer 6/7 game stretch coming up in two weeks that will include Bulls, clippers, Thunder and Warriors. All of those games are played in SA thanks to the recent extended absence from home. Let's revisit this again after that stretch. You never knowwwww!!!
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And I don't mean to sound like a Spurs homer (but I am) but how oddly similar could this be to the Cam Newton situation. Everyone thinks a guy is inhuman, then brought back to earth by the organization of an all time great??? Hmmmm
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