Cavs and Warriors look nasty!

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The Cavs had 7 players reach double figures in points tonight. yes, it was against Brooklyn. But its hard to say now that the Cavs have "no bench". They don't have the best bench but they are playing much better as a whole. Their bench looks improved from what was going on in the first half of the season. They are for sure gelling too. They easily have the best starting 5 in the league. The first half of the season it was obvious that they were learning how to play together. I think they walk into the finals this year but probably lose.

Golden State is destroying Atlanta right now. Its at half time but both of these teams know that they have the best record in their conferences. With plenty of pregame hype It sorta has a playoff feel to it and Golden State is looking like a freight train going full speed. They have 4 players in double figures going into half time. They move the ball around so well.

Atlanta looks like this years version of what the Pacers have been in the last few years. A really good team that wont be able to finish off someone deep into the play offs. They lack the "MVP" type player that championship teams typically have. Again... like the Pacers of a couple of years ago. Solid team with lots of really good players but they're missing a piece.
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Wasn't Atlanta missing Korver? Kind of a big deal.
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Atlanta was missing Korver; he scores 12 points a game but it's the spacing that they were missing.
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golden state vs. atlanta finals = ratings suicide
Deputy Travis Junior
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Are you kidding? Golden State is wildly popular. Everybody loves their offense.
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Two issues still to be seen with Golden State (which aren't exclusive to only them from the West)

1. Health - will Steph and Co be able to stay healthy for 20+ games?

2. Playoff coaching - the game to game adjustments are a great part of the playoffs. Right now, there are 3 coaches (of the other 7) that have titles in the west and have been there for many playoff series. Although, two of them are pretty certain to be in the other half of the bracket. Not sure this will end up being an issue at all, however.
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It's also one thing to be a high scoring team in the regular season, and another to have any real playoff success doing it. Those teams generally don't win it all.
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The difference from them and past high scoring teams is that the GSW also lead the league in defensive rating/points per 100 possessions.

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The difference from them and past high scoring teams is that the GSW also lead the league in defensive rating/points per 100 possessions.



Facts are fun. I assume since this is not a Mavs/Spurs/Rockets slob fest people wouldn't be too interested. I'm a Spurs fan btw

I like talking sports. For those that chimed in, thanks
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Are you kidding? Golden State is wildly popular. Everybody loves their offense.


This.
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The difference from them and past high scoring teams is that the GSW also lead the league in defensive rating/points per 100 possessions.

Their defense is top-notch in the fast paced games that they seem to force on everyone. One thing I wonder, and this is just wild-ass speculation, is how their D would fare in a 7 game series rockfight against Memphis. The Grizzlies are just fantastic at slowing the game down and turning it into a bruising, low-scoring WWE match down low. I wonder if the Warriors D would continue to play so efficiently if they weren't in a 7 seconds or less game, but were instead having to defend for 18+ seconds on every Grizzlies offensive possession.

Might be the most fascinating story line of the playoffs.
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This Cavs squad might be better than those Heat teams.

When Love is engaged, they are now better down low.

I think they blow through the East in the playoffs.
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I can say after watching the Grizz get dismantled in consecutive games at home by the Cavs and Warriors that the OP is spot on.
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Are you kidding? Golden State is wildly popular. Everybody loves their offense.
That NBA finals matchup would have terrible ratings.
tbirdspur2010
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Are you kidding? Golden State is wildly popular. Everybody loves their offense.
That NBA finals matchup would have terrible ratings.
I actually disagree. Media darling west coast team vs. ATL in the "Highlight Factory"?

Might not be Lakers/Celtics, but way better ratings than Spurs/Pistons.
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The difference from them and past high scoring teams is that the GSW also lead the league in defensive rating/points per 100 possessions.
Their defense is top-notch in the fast paced games that they seem to force on everyone. One thing I wonder, and this is just wild-ass speculation, is how their D would fare in a 7 game series rockfight against Memphis. The Grizzlies are just fantastic at slowing the game down and turning it into a bruising, low-scoring WWE match down low. I wonder if the Warriors D would continue to play so efficiently if they weren't in a 7 seconds or less game, but were instead having to defend for 18+ seconds on every Grizzlies offensive possession.

Might be the most fascinating story line of the playoffs.
Well I didn't get this exactly right (Warriors D held Memphis to 44 & 45% shooting the last 2 games, which is decent), but I definitely got the rock fight part correct.
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I'm always skeptical when people bump old threads about things they got correctly (unless I do it), but that was good foresight by you.
Motel California
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But I'm clueless.. Remember guys?
Deputy Travis Junior
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You did say Kawhi Leonard and Kevin Durant are roughly equivalent as defenders, which, if we're being honest, is one of the dumbest things ever posted on this board.
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You did say Kawhi Leonard and Kevin Durant are roughly equivalent as defenders, which, if we're being honest, is one of the dumbest things ever posted on this board.
False. Simplebay posted on this board for years.
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I get that. And you're right that Simple posted some doozies over the years. But writing "nobody outside of San Antonio thinks that Leonard is a better defender than Durant" in 2015, and then doubling down on it when challenged (with a heavy dose of scorn I might add), is up there with Simplebay's worst.
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I get that. And you're right that Simple posted some doozies over the years. But writing "nobody outside of San Antonio thinks that Leonard is a better defender than Durant" in 2015, and then doubling down on it when challenged (with a heavy dose of scorn I might add), is up there with Simplebay's worst.
Definitely up there with Simplebay's "Andrew Bynum will win DPOY". Only that was probably a troll and Kelso's clearly wasn't.
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Whatever happened to SimpleSimon?
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Whatever happened to SimpleSimon?


1. The Lakers Suck
2. His clan needs him

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I'm not sure the Cavs can win 2 games against the Warriors, much less 4.
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