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The Manu overrating continues.

Manu is nowhere near comparable to the Dirks/Kobes/Duncans of the league.

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Manu is nowhere near comparable to the Dirks/Kobes/Duncans of the league.

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True. Kobe and Duncan are both top 10 players of all time. Dirk would certainly make the top 50 list if they did one.

Guys like Dominique Wilkins didn't even make that list. Many players who had/have been very good for years are going to be HOFers even though they weren't "greatest ever" type players.

Nash, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce are all getting in. Chriss Webber and Anfernee Hardaway will probably get in. It wouldn't shock me to see Vlade Divac make it in.

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Dirk is nowhere near comparable to the Kobes/Duncans of the league.

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Dirk is Top 20 for sure and maybe Top 15. Dirk never had the supporting cast/head coach/front office that Duncan/Kobe had.

He went through much tougher opponents in his championship run, a better performance and with less talent which certainly counts for a lot.

Manu could never do that and has never shown he's capable of doing that.

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Manu would have been a bonified super star and a consistant MVP candidate if he was on a different team where he was the number one star.

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No. No he wouldn't. No. That's just ridiculous. No.

Manu also never had Dirk's total meltdown in 06 and 07 playoffs.

Didn't SA lose as a 1 seed to an 8 seed?

Did Ginobili go 2-14 in any of those games?

Probably not. It makes sense that a 3rd option can have a good series while the team doesn't advance where as teams rarely advance when their #1 option doesn't play well.

Indeed it does.

Clearly remember a dying minutes foul committed by Ginobili that gave Dirk an And-1.

I'll give you '07 playoffs but that's it. If you want to play that game, spurs have choked ever since the '07 championship.

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Clearly remember a dying minutes foul committed by Ginobili that gave Dirk an And-1.

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That wasn't a choke at all, though. Just a great play by Dirk.

And Dirk getting going 0-4 after being 5 quarters from a sweet is a choke.

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If you want to play that game, spurs have choked ever since the '07 championship.

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Are you sure you know what a choke is?

And if you want to play that game, Manu still has three rings in four appearances to Dirk's one ring in two appearances.

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And if you want to play that game, Manu still has three rings in four appearances to Dirk's one ring in two appearances.

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That's just silly. Ron Harper has 5 rings. Horry has 7. What's your point?

Question: If Manu played his entire career as the best player on his team, how many of those teams would even make the playoffs? Certainly none of them would make it to the finals.

A Manu-lead team would have a ceiling similar to the Pau Gasol lead Memphis teams.