Cubans two year plan to not suck

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Guitarsoup
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I also think Cuban made the right decision. The Mavs werent making another run. They caught lightning in a bottle.

JJ Barea played for a terrible TPups team and is still an average or below average shooter. Really isn't that hard to get a short, quick player that can give you 10 points off the bench.

Tyson Chandler is making 29mm over the next two years. Put him on the Mavs and you go from near max-FA space to over the cap. He just isn't worth 14.5mm/year.

Kidd averaged 6 points and 3 assists as the starter this year. A sweet .372 from the field to boot. Good to let him go.
3 William 56
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Kidd averaged 6 points and 3 assists as the starter this year. A sweet .372 from the field to boot. Good to let him go


This just doesn't make sense to me. You make it sound like Kidd was a 15 ppg 10 apg PG during the mavs title run. In 11' he only averaged 7.9 ppg 8.2 apg and 4.4 ppg; that's a difference of 1.9 ppg, 5.2 apg, and .1 rpg difference lower, and that's with playing 7+ minutes less this year vs. 2011. He would've been the same player this year for the mavs he was during the title run so that doesn't make sense why to not keep him.

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I also think Cuban made the right decision. The Mavs werent making another run. They caught lightning in a bottle.


The problem with this line of thinking is that no mav fan could've or did predict a title run in 2011 either, so to say they wouldn't have made a run is presumptious and based on the the previous year and what could've been, is a rather ignorant statement. Mav fans just say that to further attempt to justify dimantling a championship team.

Looking at salaries, had the mavs kept Chandle, Kidd, and Terry at their currect 2012 salaries, they'd have paid only 5.4 Million more than they did paying for Chris kaman, OJ Mayo, Darren Collison, and Elton Brand.

Brand - 2.1
Collison - 2.3
Kaman - 8
Mayo - 4.1
Total - 16.5

Chandler - 13.6
Kidd - 3.1
Terry - 5.2
Total - 21.9

Difference - 5.4

I'd even concede not signing Terry at his 5.2 million in favor of signing Mayo at 4.1, which drops the total down even further. You keep your defensice prescence, your floor general and highest basketball IQ player even over Dirk, and your 2nd/3rd scoring option in Terry/Mayo.

Bottom line is that the mavs saw Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Dwight Howard free agent class and thought they could pull something better than what they had...and failed misersably...Cuban severely misjudged the desirability of Dallas to big name free agents and dismantled a championship team for the likes of Elton Brand, Chris Kaman and Co...2 year plan is just lipstick on a pig

[This message has been edited by prepyag03 (edited 5/30/2013 12:27p).]
mavsfan4ever
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I'm always curious when I read posts like this, so you supported Cuban, and still do despite the results? You think you're better off now rather than having at teh very least, Chandler and Kidd versus Kaman and Collison?


Yes I think we are much better off now. We have cap space to try and build a contender. Would we have won a few more games this year with Chandler and Kidd (Kidd is awful and I did not want them to sign him back at all but just for argument's sake)? Yea, probably so. But that isn't worth not having the freedom and flexibility we now have.

IF we had Kidd and Chandler on the books we would not have an ounce of hope going forward. Now we do.
Ulrich
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Might be better off this offseason, but threw away the chance of another title run last year. And even so, "better off" right now still means "better chance in the free agent market", which is meaningless until they actually reel in some good players.

[This message has been edited by Ulrich (edited 5/30/2013 2:34p).]
Original Toad Boy
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Mavs are back to being the worst team in texas..a role they are all to familiar with
3 William 56
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Might be better off this offseason, but threw away the chance of another title run last year. And even so, "better off" right now still means "better chance in the free agent market", which is meaningless until they actually reel in some good players.


I think that's the point I was getting at...it's reminiscent of a team tanking in the NBA hoping to get the #1 pick, only to lose the lottery and end up with the 5th overall pick even though you have the worst record. The mavs "tanked" by not signing their guys thinking they'd land 1 if not 2 of the big names, but swung and missed continually...

NOTE: I don't think they tanked per se. What I'm saying is that they got rid of Chandler hoping for Howard. They got rid of Kidd hoping for williams and missed on both...
TheMasterplan
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Chandler is not worth the type of money he is being paid. Jason Kidd now is not the same Kidd as two years ago.

Like Ulrich said, they would've been good for ONE MORE title run which was last year and that would be it. That's why he was offering those one year deals. I don't think the Mavs would've been able to contend this year (knocked out in 2nd round probably) and they would've been locked up for the future.

Mavs do need to draft better though. Not this year. Trade that ****.
TheMasterplan
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Mavs are back to being the worst team in texas..a role they are all to familiar with


Actually, nobody in the Mavs organization is really familiar with that. And it's a distant memory for most Mavs fans.
VanZandt92
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I would imagine that Cuban would rather have Memphis in the Finals than his biggest Rival. He has made some rather uncouth comments about San Antonio over the years.
cuban uncouth? No way
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