NCAA Soccer Tournament

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All ACC College Cup.
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mullokmotx said:

All ACC College Cup.
Wow. That is impressive. And I forget Stanford is now in the ACC.

Final in OT: North Carolina 2, Penn St. 1

North Carolina advances.

One more game tomorrow. It is Duke vs Virginia Tech.
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Not really impressive with a west coast team playing in an East Coast league

Actually it's pathetic
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Last spot in the College Cup goes to Duke. They beat Virginia Tech 1-0.

Semifinal matchups (games next Friday):

Duke v North Carolina
Wake Forest v Stanford
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4th Round of Duke vs North Carolina

Duke up 2 - 1

With NC beating them in ACC tourney

NC no titles in 12 years is a wow
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Wake Forest beat Stanford 1-0

Lost to Duke and NC

Stanford lost to WF and Duke but beat NC

Yeah conference tourney all over
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Wow! How uninspiring. Definitely not going to draw a crowd outside of NC & the bay area of CA. Just draw straws and put the winners name on the trophy.

Meanwhile A&M needs to cut bait with G and get a coach that can get us back in the game. No need to treading water for another year. It's worked in Volleyball and Softball, G is just drawing a check and wasting his players eligibility.
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Ya'll are gonna hate me but......

Duke is in the Final 4 with a coach who has announced his retirement and his replacement is on the roster working already.

UNC is in the Final 4 with an interim head coach.

Meanwhile, A&M has a lame duck head coach that will be in Cary watching all of it and probably trying to hire a primary assistant for next season and trying to recruit new players who know he won't have a job when he's talking to them.
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Duke is in the final four with their longtime coach retiring and his assistant taking over.

Nahas was the associate head coach at UNC the last nine years or so.

At both institutions Hall and Nahas had been running the show for a while. UNC has been transitioning the way they play for the last 7-8 years from a Dorrance-based strategy to a Nahas-based strategy.
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UNC hasn't won since 2012? they are becoming like the yankees- dominated when only 6 teams played womens soccer
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https://www.instagram.com/stories/maile.hayes/3516693638829075093?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=MXBkOXZsdnJvejdtcQ==
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North Carolina 3

Duke 0

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Final:
Wake Forest 1
Stanford 0

So, Monday's National championship is:
Wake Forest vs North Carolina
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The Wake team is chock full of transfer portal girls who left UNC en masse last year. So the intrigue of the match is that it pits last year's UNC team vs. this year's UNC team…..all built through the portal.
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Oooh. That is kind of cool in the way of a lot personal on the line.
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So when we play our 9 ex starters next year with our high school team it's gonna be fun
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Was looking at the starting lineups for Wake Forest and UNC. Wake has 8 starters returning from their final game last year, 2 were on the roster and 1 is a transfer. UNC has 1 starter returning from their final game last year, 4 were on the roster, 2 are transfers and 4 are freshmen. Wake did not make the NCAA tournament last year and UNC blew a 3-0 lead at BYU in the quarterfinal.
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These teams in the finals are LIGHT YEARS ahead of where we are as a program. Wow.
Gig'em Aggies! c/o '98 W H O O P!
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most high schools are ahead of our current team
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aggiedrjdub said:

These teams in the finals are LIGHT YEARS ahead of where we are as a program. Wow.
They are athletically, but man that was an ugly game to watch. Barely any passing. Poor free kicks and corner kicks, except for the goal that is. And all kinds of players just running into each other and falling on the ground. The game event had the winning coach getting a yellow card for blowing a gasket. He's winning the game FFS.

The sad part is that A&M can't even do any of that. They just chase the other team around and lump it as far as they can kick it when they do finally get to touch the ball in the defensive 3rd.
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FINAL: UNC 1 WF 0

First National Championship for UNC since 2012.
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It has been quite a while. But UNC was not exactly out of the running all those years. Since winning in 2012, UNC was in the championship game and lost in 2018, 2019, and 2022. Two of those losses went to OT, and one was decided on penalties. The increased parity among top teams is apparent in the number of teams that won the title from 2013 to 2023. UCLA (X2), FSU (x4), PSU, Southern CA, Stanford (x2), Santa Clara. It is too bad that the Aggies, instead of joining or even threatening to join that group of championship teams, are apparently heading toward mediocrity.
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tamufan said:

It has been quite a while. But UNC was not exactly out of the running all those years. Since winning in 2012, UNC was in the championship game and lost in 2018, 2019, and 2022. Two of those losses went to OT, and one was decided on penalties. The increased parity among top teams is apparent in the number of teams that won the title from 2013 to 2023. UCLA (X2), FSU (x4), PSU, Southern CA, Stanford (x2), Santa Clara. It is too bad that the Aggies, instead of joining or even threatening to join that group of championship teams, are apparently heading toward mediocrity.


we are and have been mediocre for a while- we are at rock bottom -
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aggiedrjdub said:

These teams in the finals are LIGHT YEARS ahead of where we are as a program. Wow.


I've watched plenty of HS soccer. This may actually be a stretch.

The issue is country-wide where so many coaches are still coaching run and shoot. That only works if you have speed on offense and can outrun the D.

There are some coaches that truly value possession style soccer, but it is rare in the US - both HS and college level. Far too many simply want athletes that can outmuscle, not necessarily outplay.

I think we need a change, but to win we need a coach who knows how to coach the midfield, and will recruit for players who can play a style of smart, possession based soccer.
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If you are basing your thoughts on watching HS soccer, then you aren't watching the best soccer. High School has its place, but it far from the best youth age soccer being played. Many of the top players either aren't playing HS or are only playing for their Freshman/Sophomore seasons. The sad thing is, ECNL is getting watered down enough to the point where some of those teams aren't any better than HS anymore.
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we are losing prob a top 5 ball control midfielder in the nation- G didn't play her with a CM that could play with her- when he did play Beccerra last year with Boeckman we controlled the middle - now they both gone - and you gonna see true kick ball next year
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My comment about soccer stretches across all levels. The comment about HS was pointed at an earlier comment made on the board, and was incorporated for purposes of talking soccer.

I understand both HS and club. I have a daughter playing ECNL. She had to wait to tryout until fall (post HS) due to her injury and rehab last season. She tried out at two clubs - one that has DA and the other ECNL.Prior to this season she played for a different ECNL team (IN), but is no longer eligible for that team due to new distance rules.

Her current coach is possession-oriented in thinking which fits her skill set.

She grew up playing and training Barca-style, with lots of possession and passing.

What we saw in our recent ECNL event is that many of the teams are still very focused on run and shoot. They are not utilizing the midfield, and not possessing. Ball control is not prioritized over physicality.

I think that all of this ties in with what we are seeing at the college level.

Maybe this helps.
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I have no knowledge of youth soccer programs… do certain groups keep the same strategy all throughout their age groups, or is mostly dependent on the coach at each level? And which styles are more successful at national tournaments? Thanks in advance!
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I wonder if UNC will elevate their interim coach to full time
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Already did


missinAggieland
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From what I have seen, it is purely club dependent. Some clubs are set in their ways and use antiquated training methods.

Landon Donovan made a statement a could have weeks ago about current your soccer. His point is that far too many coaches at the youth level are focused on winning rather than development. Think 7 year olds riding the bench because their coach decides the win is more important in a friendly than developing all players. His points were largely focused on how the current US women's national team, Emma Hayes, is making changes on the girls side. All the way down to the youth level.

When you don't develop skill, and you joystick the players from early on, players simply do not develop. There are kids that get stuck on lower level teams due to lack of development, or worse, politics. Some of these players quit.

Youth soccer is the major reason we are seeing a decline in soccer, period.
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Much deserved for him! I'm sure many schools tried to pry him away the past few years, now he's been given the keys to a Carolina Blue Maserati!
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I absolutely agree! I see some kids who play one sport year round and some coaches will grind them to the dirt for wins. In some sports it's tournaments every single week (nowadays with a team comprised of athletes which may live in different parts of the states) there's no development going on, there's no learning how to be a teammate, it's all just games and winning now! I coach track and field and I force my younger ones to play multiple sports, I tell them I don't wanna see their faces for a while! Go rest and get more athletic and stronger!
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taylorswift13_ said:

I have no knowledge of youth soccer programs… do certain groups keep the same strategy all throughout their age groups, or is mostly dependent on the coach at each level? And which styles are more successful at national tournaments? Thanks in advance!
ECNL
ECNL RL
ECNL RL NTX

The three leagues have the same letters but have a VERY large gap in level & style of play.
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On the men's side, this is why we watch sports. Their first national title in any sport ever.

 
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