It continues to get worse, including the cover up and denials. I don’t understand why the coaches felt the need to go to such lengths for what isn’t that much of an edge. It’s beyond embarrassing and they should be ashamed of themselves- a significant punishment should be… https://t.co/iL4k58ro2w

— Stu Holden (@stuholden) July 26, 2024

Ok. I'm still learning the beautiful game and maybe those with more knowledge and understanding can help.

What can be gained from watching training?

Personnel, formations, but set pieces would be my biggest area of interest.

Sounds like a federation-wide problem if both mens and women's teams are doing it and it didn't stop when Marsch was hired.

If you're gonna cheat, at least be good at it.

Canada reportedly used a drone to record a USMNT training session ... and then got cooked 4-1 😭

(via @rwesthead, @TSN_Sports) pic.twitter.com/hswpxvhlnM

— USMNT Only (@usmntonly) July 26, 2024

Rudyjax said:

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It continues to get worse, including the cover up and denials. I don’t understand why the coaches felt the need to go to such lengths for what isn’t that much of an edge. It’s beyond embarrassing and they should be ashamed of themselves- a significant punishment should be… https://t.co/iL4k58ro2w

— Stu Holden (@stuholden) July 26, 2024

Ok. I'm still learning the beautiful game and maybe those with more knowledge and understanding can help.

What can be gained from watching training?

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The biggest thing would be potential starting lineups for the opponent. Most teams train with the starting XI on matchday -1 so you can get some info if you spied on that practice.

Say you're playing Inter Miami and expecting Messi, Busquets, and Alba to be in the starting XI but you see them over on the side from your drone, You were planning to put out a 5-4-1 heavily defensive formation but now you can play your normal 3-4-3. That would be helpful information from watching the opponents' training.

That's one hell of a spying operation the Canadians have put together. Puts Michigan football to shame.

Women docked 6 points in the Olympics. Au revoir ladies.

Big fine and their HC is banned from soccer for a year too. Wonder if anything happens to Herdman (I know he's not there anymore) or anyone higher up at Canada soccer.

Some outstanding quotes in here from US soccer folks about Canada's paranoia and cheating.

https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/40654826/us-soccer-aware-prior-canada-spying-incidents

But yeah, in my experience playing and coaching, it was always the cheaters who were most paranoid about being cheated.

jeffk said:

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Some outstanding quotes in here from US soccer folks about Canada's paranoia and cheating.

https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/40654826/us-soccer-aware-prior-canada-spying-incidents

But yeah, in my experience playing and coaching, it was always the cheaters who were most paranoid about being cheated.

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It's always the dishonest that accuse others of being dishonest. Doesn't matter what it's about.

helpful article

This is so counter to the understood stereotype of Canadians being "overly nice."

TheMasterplan said:

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This is so counter to the understood stereotype of Canadians being "overly nice."

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From my experience, those that are overly nice smile at you and stab you in the back.

deadbq03 said:

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If you're gonna cheat, at least be good at it.

Canada reportedly used a drone to record a USMNT training session ... and then got cooked 4-1 😭

(via @rwesthead, @TSN_Sports) pic.twitter.com/hswpxvhlnM

— USMNT Only (@usmntonly) July 26, 2024

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All that cheating and those guys are the ones that score on you?!? I'll take 'names I don't want to see in a USMNT jersey again' for 800 Alex.

The Canadian women's coach emailed several other employees to help coordinate the spying. Note to everyone: don't keep notes on a criminal conspiracy.

Also referenced an extensive spying program on the men's side.

https://www.tsn.ca/olympics/westhead-tribunal-denies-canada-s-appeal-as-priestman-email-details-a-whole-operation-of-spying-1.2156249

NM.