Coaches who've won the World Cup or EURO fit two profiles (going back to 2000)
Profile 1: Club Trophy Winners - guys who have trophies (cup or league) at the club level, either for their country's domestic league, or for a European Top 5 league (or both). Notably, none of them had international coaching experience before they were hired. Some were great as players; others weren't - that doesn't seem to matter. Many also had some major failures along the way and may have been considered past their prime, but they all had at least 1 major trophy on their shelf. It's also notable that Rehhagel won as a non-domestic (German who won with Greece).
Mancini (EURO 20), Dechamps (WC 18), Santos (EURO 16), Del Bosque (EURO 12), Aragones (EURO 08), Lippi (WC 06), Rehhagel (EURO 04), Scolari (WC 02)
Profile 2: Promoted Assistants - guys who had little/no success at club level, but were assistants (or youth coaches) for their country and then were promoted from within.
De La Fuente (EURO 24), Scaloni (WC 22), Loew (WC 14), Lemerre (EURO 00)
Notably - NONE of the winners were previous international senior-level head coaches; furthermore - guys like Scolari who were hired later as international coaches couldn't repeat their success. Also notably, NONE of the UEFA-based coaches repeated as trophy winners (speaking to Rudy and others' notion that we need to hire for 1 cycle only).
USSF may have failed us by not promoting BJ Callahan or Anthony Hudson when they had the chance.
Given that failure - they need to get us a guy with a trophy. We'd all overwhelmingly prefer that to be a Top-5 winner, but if we're gonna be stuck with an MLS guy - let's for damn-sure have him be a trophy-winner.
Profile 1: Club Trophy Winners - guys who have trophies (cup or league) at the club level, either for their country's domestic league, or for a European Top 5 league (or both). Notably, none of them had international coaching experience before they were hired. Some were great as players; others weren't - that doesn't seem to matter. Many also had some major failures along the way and may have been considered past their prime, but they all had at least 1 major trophy on their shelf. It's also notable that Rehhagel won as a non-domestic (German who won with Greece).
Mancini (EURO 20), Dechamps (WC 18), Santos (EURO 16), Del Bosque (EURO 12), Aragones (EURO 08), Lippi (WC 06), Rehhagel (EURO 04), Scolari (WC 02)
Profile 2: Promoted Assistants - guys who had little/no success at club level, but were assistants (or youth coaches) for their country and then were promoted from within.
De La Fuente (EURO 24), Scaloni (WC 22), Loew (WC 14), Lemerre (EURO 00)
Notably - NONE of the winners were previous international senior-level head coaches; furthermore - guys like Scolari who were hired later as international coaches couldn't repeat their success. Also notably, NONE of the UEFA-based coaches repeated as trophy winners (speaking to Rudy and others' notion that we need to hire for 1 cycle only).
USSF may have failed us by not promoting BJ Callahan or Anthony Hudson when they had the chance.
Given that failure - they need to get us a guy with a trophy. We'd all overwhelmingly prefer that to be a Top-5 winner, but if we're gonna be stuck with an MLS guy - let's for damn-sure have him be a trophy-winner.