Arsenal 2022-2023 Thread

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chjoak
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Claims that Torreira is close to agreeing personal terms with Galatasaray...

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wangus12
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Lot of different people reporting Torreira. Please let us be done here
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
chjoak
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Reports from Italy that Mari to Monza should be completed within 48hrs. Loan with an obligation if Monza is not relegated.
wangus12
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Sad to see him go. I always thought he did a good to great job behind some terrible defenses. Hope he can keep Fulham up.



wangus12
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Cool clip from All or Nothing

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Strangely Attractive
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A little surprised about Patino because I thought he would've played some during Euro group stage. He looks like he has matured a bit and added some mass. This is probably the best for him though. Hopefully he's ready to contribute next year.
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Will be interesting to see if we move for Tielemans as some of these outgoing deals are being completed.
wangus12
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Hopefully if Torriera really is gone, we will see that move. Still afraid we're screwed if anything actually happens to Partey, whether its legal or injury.

I wonder how desperate Barca is with FDJ. Can we have him on the cheap if we pay him all the money Barca owes him as part of his fee. (This is obviously not going to happen)
wangus12
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Holy **** please just get the hell out of here

chjoak
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saw a report out of Uruguay a few min ago that said Lucas is still pushing/waiting on Valencia. Says his first choice is to play for Gatusso but if that can't happen he is good with Turkey.
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This guy is a pain in the ass and is making it hard for himself later on down the road.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
wangus12
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"The player still wants to go to Valencia and has set a waiting time with the club because it is his first option. Galatasaray is his second option but he wants to play with Gattuso. The VCF has to move in the next few days, the wait is not eternal. It's difficult for Valencia as Arsenal want a good figure. It's a complicated situation because the player can't afford to waste time if he wants to go to the World Cup."






Honestly, I'd say **** him. Either he goes to Galatasaray or he rots practicing with the reserves (but not playing) for his final year here.
chjoak
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Valencia has freed up enough salary budget but not transfer budget. Supposedly they have asked us to cancel his contract so they can sign him on a free. I'm getting tired of having to cancel all of these contracts. Think if a team doesn't have the cash we should atleast be making them trade us a hot prospect for our player. That way we get something, even if it is just a player for the youth squad that we can sell in a couple seasons. Best case we land a future superstar.
wangus12
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Torreira has paused Galatasaray transfer to wait for Valencia. With departure of Cillessen, they now have salary to hire Torreira. Valencia is asking Arsenal to terminate Torreiras contract. AFC have asked Valencia for fee or loan with obligation.
Valencia can get ****ed as well. We have a 7.5m offer on the table. Either they pay it or Torreira pays it. No termination of contract & no loan bull*****


chjoak
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Agree. Valencia has a strong academy. We can make a swap deal to "help them out". They have several young players that would be of benefit now or in the near future but these would be my first choice.

W/AM/CM Yunus Musah - former Arsenal academy player that could play in a utility role for our first team.
LB Jesus Vazquez - strong defensive numbers in his limited (800 min) first team appearances but is being touted as their replacement for Jose Gaya.

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At this point I'd just assume we fire him on a rocket into the sun and charge $10 a pop for it on pay-per-view, Easily make the 7.5mil.
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Strangely Attractive
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Torreira just won't go away…

Tielemans is a no brainer deal to me because of his price, age, quality, and flexibility. Probably for that left sided 8 but I think he also has the ability/quality to be a single pivot 6 like Partey, which right now is our single glaring hole in the roster.
chjoak
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Strangely Attractive said:

Tielemans is a no brainer deal to me because of his price, age, quality, and flexibility. Probably for that left sided 8 but I think he also has the ability/quality to be a single pivot 6 like Partey, which right now is our single glaring hole in the roster.
Tielemans is a good option at the right price but I don't think it is a no brainer. I have read many a debate on the subject and watched a bunch of video and the general conclusion I have drawn is that Tielemans doesn't bring much more than Xhaka. He would provide more on offense, less on defense and maybe 2/3rds of the effort at best. And there is no way he fits as a Partey replacement. Defensively he would get destroyed.

I wouldn't be upset if we ultimately buy him but I think the current price has to come down because I don't know if Arteta would immediately place him in the starting lineup ahead of Xhaka. For me it would be like buying an older/slower version of Vieira or ESR (assuming Arteta follows through about using him in the 8/10 role). We already have those 2 guys, maybe we should be looking for something better if we need/want to replace Xhaka.
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Yeah the price now was a little higher than I remember, but I think he's a significant upgrade on Xhaka both offensively and defensively, we probably just a difference of opinion on that one...

I think we overrate Xhaka's defense. His best attribute is his passing. Last year Granit Xhaka had a total of 13 blocks, 80 aerial duels and a total number of 67 tackles. Youri Tielemans has a total of 19 blocks, 59 aerial duels and a total number of 154 tackles. xG was 4.7 to 1.93 in favor of Tielemans. And that doesn't take into account the red card/penalty given issue with Xhaka, which I think is a massive issue. I've seen him go to ground far too often in our own box for my liking. Other stats show similar disparity between the 2 in most categories from what I've seen.

I don't necessarily want to just dump on Xhaka, he's been good in the preseason, but for me we've already been there/done that and it's just a matter of time before he does something else that causes us to lose a match. Time to transition out of the Xhaka era IMO. It is hard for coaches not to pick him though, that is true, and could be an issue.

Tielemans played in a deep midfield role early in his career and although not ideal, I'd rather see him as the Partey backup then switching to a double pivot and seeing Xhaka slide tackling people in our own box. I think with the defensive solidity of Gabriel/Saliba it's possible but not ideal. Ideally we would drop 50-60M on a new high quality DM but that's not happening this window.
wangus12
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At least one of our players is professional enough to accept what is on the table rather than be a piece of ****

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Pablo Mari has agreed professional terms. Talks between Arsenal and Monza continue


Strangely Attractive
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Seems like we're doing a better job of jettisoning players. It's not easy to get them out particularly when they're not that high in demand.
wangus12
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Both Balogun and Patino had their loans confirmed today



Ag Since 83
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FYI the All or Nothing episodes have dropped
wangus12
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Yep. Gonna watch episode 1 when I get back in from my run
wangus12
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So good. I am Ramsdale's dad 90% of the time watching games
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Loved ep 1! Mr. & Mrs. Ramsdale are gems.
Ag Since 83
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To me the most interesting part of the first three episodes was the left back situation. The context behind Arteta's view of Nuno is really eye opening. It'll be interesting to see how those conversations play out as the season progresses, given certain on the field events.

And I will never get over how Arteta draws a heart and brain
chjoak
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wangus12
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I refuse to believe it until its actually official
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