The USMNT better qualify for the World Cup. I don't know if I'll live long enough to see them play in 2026…

I figured you'd outlive me just to be the last one in this thread.

You can be last in this thread, I have the original. It's your turn once this one ends…

You cheated on the first thread

No I didn't…

It's awesome to have a rooting interest in the world cup again.

What a great group!

I'm not sure who our first opponent will be, but I hope it's Wales or Scotland.

We've played England twice before in the World Cup, and we've never lost.

And then there is Iran. It's payback time for the 1998 World Cup!

I LOVE this draw…

Great draw and a great chance to make it out.

Last…

It's time for a vacation.

Does discgolf on Sunday count?

Ok I'm back.

I hope you had a relaxing vacation, friend!

I hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes of being last, my good man.

Last…

Who shot me, but you punks couldn't finish. Now you bout to feel the wrath of a menace.

Sorry, but I don't listen to rap music, rap music sucks. You should listen to some Pink Floyd, Pink Floyd doesn't suck…

Back on my feet again, I'm back on the street again, I'm back on the top again.

Hall & Oates is also very good…

Hip Hop is better.

Hip hop is basic, simplistic, with little original creativity…

You know how I know you don't listen to hip hop?

CDub06 said:

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You know how I know you don't listen to hip hop?

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Yeah, I've already shown you that I listen quality music.

Hip hop and it's culture are trash. Stupid music, stupid art, stupid clothes, stupid ideas of what success is…

That's a ridiculously large broad brush you're using.

Hip hop is one of the most creative forms of music. The production and lyricism in the genre can be tremendous.

You're not going to find it in the pop acts or mumble rappers poisoning the culture with all the xanax talk and just drugs and money party songs.

Listen to Outkast, Kendrick Lamar, Royce da 5'9", Childish Gambino, J Cole, Kid Cudi. As insane as he is, Kanye's production and creativity is just as bonkers.

OutKast: Developed a rift because one wanted to be a gangster and one was too weird.

Kendrick: "I wish I had a dick as big as the Eiffel Tower so I could **** the whole world for 24 hours" :/ genius level stuff there…

Childish: "get yo money black man. :/ so very disappointing

You didn't even mention the most talented hip hop artist on the planet right now, Post Malone, and he got famous by basically saying, "alright, you'll want garbage, we'll I can do that better than anyone"


No one likes being told they like dumb stuff, it's hard to accept, so I understand your situation. All I can say is it's okay. It's okay to like junk food music; you aren't a bad person, you just enjoy garbage…

Citing Post Malone and Hall & Oates. Ok ok, we get it. You're white.

Like real real white.

As I said earlier, you're not going to find the most creative forms of music in pop acts. That goes for all genres, whether it's Post Malone or Hall & Oates. It's ok to like the mindless pop that the music industry is feeding you. Sometimes it's fun to turn your brain off. I just don't like that watered down stuff.

Weird that you reference Hall & Oates as very good, but then dismiss Outkast because of a "rift" (that doesn't exist fwiw). Those Hall & Oates guys can't stand each other.

The referenced Kendrick song is pure parody along the lines of the Beastie Boys' "Fight for Your Right." He's very aware of his influence on the culture and is critical of that mindset.

Beastie Boys, now there's a quality band. Of course I like their instrumental and jam songs, and not their rap. Beck even made fun of their rap with his hit song Two Turntables and a Microphone, because Beck was making fun of the genre as being simplistic, easy, and stupid. There is a limit to hiphop, and the ceiling isn't very high.

It's telling that real artists make fun of HipHop by putting out a parody and their parody song is a smash hit, because it isn't hard to make garbage for people that like junk food music.

Also, it isn't about race, simple people come in all colors…

A few years ago, Daryl Hall was accused of cultural appropriation because he sounded "too black". His response was "how is it appropriation when I do it better than everyone else?"

Hall was also the very first singer that Van Halen asked to join their band when they kicked out David Lee Roth.

A hundred years from now people will still be listening to Pink Floyd, but they won't even know any of the hiphop guys you listed…

Hiphop is easy, anyone can do it, even Tom Green had a number one hit.

You're not helping your case at all...

Are you talking about Tom Green's bum song? That certainly wasn't hip hop.

And yes, the Beastie Boys' song was a HUGE hit. but that specific song landed on alternative rock radio, you don't hear "Fight For Your Right" on rap stations. Seems easy to break into that market if a few rappers goofed on that culture and created a mainstream hit for rock bros.

And WTF is that Peaches song? It's terrible.

Back to the Beasties. What are you talking about that Beck was making fun of them? That's a complete fabrication. And that simplistic production doesn't come close to the stuff the Beastie Boys did. Their samples and cuts were phenomenal. And once again, that Beck song landed on...alternative rock radio.

Guess what else landed on alternative rock radio, "Loser," which was another low level, silly effort of his, that he HATED actually took off.

Machine Gun Kelly quit rap and IMMEDIATELY became a star on the alternative stations.

All you are doing is proving mainstream radio fans latch onto anything that has a catchy hook.

If I turn on the rock station now, I'm going to hear Three Days Grace or Three Doors Down, not Pink Floyd. If you turn on the rap station, you're going to hear Nicky Minaj or Kodak Black, not The Roots or Lauryn Hill.

So what you are probably exposed to is, in essence, the Hinder of Hip Hop. And to take that and to paint the entirety of hip hop culture as "trash," is incredibly ignorant. "Stupid music, stupid art, stupid clothes" is probably matter of opinion and a pretty closed-minded stance to take for something people like. But calling the whole culture "trash" is as ignorant as you can get.

Hip hop is versatile enough to be able to pull influences from all genres. You've got rock elements, jazz, soul, along with typical hip hop elements like 808s and scratches. It's Lyricism, Melody, Cadence, Rhythm. It's Production, Beats, Samples, Instrumentation. It's Complex Rhymes, Punchlines, Storytelling, Club Bangers, and Conscious Rap. Hip hop is creative and huge.

It's not just the W.A.P. type songs you attribute to it. As for "hip hop is easy, anyone can do it." Sure, anyone could probably put together some off beat Dr Seuss rhymes, just like anyone can sing along with "Another Brick in the Wall" or pick up and strum a guitar. It doesn't mean it's going to be any good or that anyone wants to hear it.

This one is to atone for whatever travesty you posted above:

Simple music for simple people…

aggiephoenix02 said:

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Simple music for simple people…

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Exactly. But we already established that you have poor taste based on your frozen pizza preference.

HaHa! Okay, you got me.
That's a good one…

Dead hourglass of time
Sand we will not ever find
We gather here today
Say goodbye
'Cause you've reached the end of the line

So you tried HomeRunInn and didn't care too much for it, BUT, at least you tried it….

Now it's time for you to try this (seriously, give it a try):

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpI6XGqHb_GSjnwpef14jTrS5FcHkPsPL

I've listened to Pink Floyd. I didn't say anything negative about them. I'm open to all forms of music.

I don't think I've heard this album before though. I did listen to it. The album is well composed and the songs are beautifully orchestrated and layered (I could do without the dog and the middle of that 20 minute song). It just doesn't elicit any feelings from me. It's just like chill music. Now I feel like I need a nap.