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Objective Texasguy
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Overview -

(NOTE: all of this commentary is made easier as I do not have an emotional attachment to Aggie football other than rooting against it)

My recommendation is not to over-reach on analyzing this game. The defense was horrible, but it was one game.

I'd try not to over-analyze wins for holes as at the end of the day, a win is a win. In two weeks, if you beat CU, will anyone really remember this game?

I am sure many of you are starting to worry about the numbers Texas Tech might put up in November.

Guys, that is so far away and should be so far removed from your thinking. Teams (especially young ones) evolve or devolve as games and experience racks up.

Focus on taking care of BU like you should and then as I have stated before, your team's direction will be determined in some part by the CU game.

CU is a milestone that this group of players has not really achieved too well. Winning a tough game on the road. OSU last year aside, this team has been average to woeful under Franchione in tough match-ups on the road.

CU is a decent, not great team IMHO. Boulder is not an intimidating place to play.

A young team that is maturing and improving goes to Boulder and racks up a win. That is a mark of evolution and improvement. That is where you should draw your line in the sand.

A win there does not mean you will run the table, but you can't run the table without winning that game! It could be the start of something good to great.

Please don't sweat BU. Let the coaches get the team ready to play that game and I promise you the vastly superior talent on your team will result in a 4-6 TD victory.

Remember, young teams performance does fluctuate up and down. I really feel strongly that the BU game will be an "UP" game. Don't lose sleep over Baylor.

LAST NIGHT

As far as last night goes, thank Reggie, Jason, Courtney, the refs, and the TSU HC for pulling that one out.

Reggie was unreal. Carter was an AA. Courtney played liked an All-Big XII. They won the game for you. It is nice to have skill players that can win games for you--they tend to do it more and more as the season wears on.

The refs really impacted the game IMHO--the offensive INT in the end zone was just like the KU call vs. Texas in 2004. Technically there was receiver-initiated contact, but nobody makes that call in that situation. I wish FSN showed the "away from the play" hands to the face call that helped you guys kill 5 minutes of the clock after that. Not judging it since I never saw it, but I hope it was flagrant as why make that type of game altering call away from the play to extend a drive like that?

If Nealy was not hurt, I think there is something afoul with the coach of TSU. Taking him out of the game was bordering on a "FIX", unless he was hurt. Granted, 2 TD's in 2 minutes would have been hard, but it has happened before and Nealy was unreal.

Those were my only 2 gripes about last night. Again, I would not go into convulsions about the defense yet. Remember, this is the same team that essentially shut down TTU in Kyle last year. My opinion is they are capable. IT is up to the coaches and players to develop, mature, improve, and learn from last night.

It is always better to learn from a win than a loss!





HaveGoodGetGive
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good analysis
agthrunthru
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Over-analyze, HELL....I'm going to shoot somebody !!!
PJYoung
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quote:
If Nealy was not hurt, I think there is something afoul with the coach of TSU. Taking him out of the game was bordering on a "FIX", unless he was hurt. Granted, 2 TD's in 2 minutes would have been hard, but it has happened before and Nealy was unreal.


Very true.

Also, you mentioned our defense shutting down tt last year. It's obvious to me now that Buhl, Jones and Mayes made that much of a difference in our secondary. I hope the young guys learn fast because we need them all.
Agustus Caesar
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objectivity is your middle name
Agustus Caesar
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i mean first name
'03ag
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well said. thanks
Deets
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I find it hard to believe that Neely was not injured. I can't imagine a coach doing that. That win would have done miracles for their program and his career.

Objective Texasguy
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PJ Young or other Ags that concur with my bewilderment over Nealy being out.

If Nealy was not hurt, and you can take off your Aggie hats for just a second, can you guys conceive it is possible that the TSU HC who is a Franchione disciple decided to give up on this one for the sake of his mentor???

OK, I am not saying that is what happened, but other than Nealy being really hurt, what other excuses can you think of for him?

With Nealy in there, TSU still loses this game 99 times out of 100. However, he may get the team down for one more score and that puts even more heat on this guy's mentor and friend.

The other QB was not like some rocket arm protege'. He could not execute a simple pass to the flat. Hell, they RAN the ball twice!!!!!
4stringAg
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Remember, young teams performance does fluctuate up and down


At some point, this "excuse" doesn't fly. We have something like 17-18 seniors on this team in the 2 deep as I recall and a number of juniors. This team does have young players but overall I would say is fairly balanced at this point. No way should they take a day off even if it is against TSU. Were it not for TSU miscues (penalties, turnovers) they would have won this game.

The most telling stat of the poor performance last night was the fact that McGee never saw the field because Reggie and CLew had to be in the game to close it out late in the 4th. Pitiful.

The only one on this team showing any leadership abilities right now is Jason Carter, and that includes our coaching staff. Do agree though that its better to win than to lose.
Agustus Caesar
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i can understand the fix, but i can't believe anyone would actually do it. that's crazy.
rscrash87
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Great post!

Time to self analyze AGs - Orangebloods are on this board ACTUALLY TRYING TO CONSOLE US! While I appreciate it, I am a little shocked! We should take note of how negative this board has become! When our arch rival has to tell us the sky is not falling, that is just as embarrassing as the game!

Suck it up, Ags – take the win and let the coaches coach, Lord knows they have LOTS of material to use now.

p.s. – Nealy was Awsome!!!!
BigAgFan
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"As far as last night goes, thank Reggie, Jason, Courtney, the refs, and the TSU HC for pulling that one out."
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AND, Chad Schroeder
jmcfar_98
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I don't believe in the fix theory. The TxST HC is looking ahead to better things. They can make serious noise in Div 1AA this year. Why take the chance of getting Nealy hurt for that 1% chance that they comeback and win. Doesn't make sense. JMHO
MooreTrucker
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AND, Chad Schroeder


Is it possible to buy a jersey with a number other than 12? Cuz I want a #14 jersey!!
Cotton79
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Thanks, Objective Texasguy. A spot-on analysis. (Your comments are much more digestible - not to mention, reasonable - than many of the venomous and vitriolic Aggie thoughts in the past 24 hours!)

Gig'em, Aggies!
Beat the HELL Outta Baylor!!
LifeLongAg
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I think if more people actually "listen" to what Texas guy has to say, they would see that his points are valid. Regardless of where the wisdom originates, it is "wisdom" nonetheless.
aggie_accountant
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ObjectiveTexasGuy-

Good analysis, and yes I agree we will probably beat Baylor handily, but the problem with our defense is not that they need more experience in my opinion. I think they need a new scheme.

I almost wonder if we should switch back to a 34 defense like we used to have? I don't know, maybe we don't have enough playmakers at linebacker, but I always liked that style if you have the guys. Man, I wish we still atleast somewhat resembled a Slocum defense.

"Sports do not build character. They reveal it."
-John Wooden
texpdx
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Good analysis. I will state that it is good to have an awful games against TSU rather than having one agsinst someone else. Every team has a down game each year and it is a matter of who they are playing and if they can work through it. The bad game last year was Baylor.

With that said the D needs help. TSU capitalized on our D's agressive speed and ran alot of misdirection plays. Their QB was tough to contain and that scares me a looking looking to Iowa State. Our D line did not get pressure and that needs to be solved. Corner blitzes are not working!

Offense looked great at times. They still need to work the tightends in with some short passes. Franks does not need to touch the ball again as a runner. Morrow needs more PT and DQ's blocking was great.
The Chicken Ranch
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I think any objective t-sip is looking forward to the opportunity to rape, pillage, and violate this Aggie team on T+1.
jt2hunt
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i think i am in a twilight zone reality. i agree with a sip, trying to make me feel better.
JiveHonky
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Since it was posted in a thread that was deleted, I'll repost it here:

I'm going to chalk this game up to having 2 less days to prepare than normal. Texas State had 2 weeks to prep for this game (their last was on 9/10) so obviously they were better prepared to play on a short schedule than the Aggies.

However, I will say that any team who can successfully throw the ball deep consistently is going to kill us. I think DC Torbush isn't preparing his players properly for games and it shows on the field. They are sloppy tacklers, out of position often, and don't pressure the point.

There is an incredible wealth of talent on this team, and I'd hate to see it wasted by a lackadaisical coaching staff. I'm holding my breath and crossing my fingers that we'll look more polished and inspired against Baylor.
theNetSmith
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Orangebloods are on this board ACTUALLY TRYING TO CONSOLE US!

funny...as i was reading the post, i was thinking it sounded like a proud big brother trying to pick up his little bro.

someday, we wanna grow up to be just like you, big brother.

nice post, tho.

-T
PJYoung
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If Nealy was not hurt, and you can take off your Aggie hats for just a second, can you guys conceive it is possible that the TSU HC who is a Franchione disciple decided to give up on this one for the sake of his mentor???



No, not possible. Much more likely that he was trying to save his team by resting Nealy at the end. Did you see the dropoff from the #1 QB to #2? Pretty massive. They HAVE to have Nealy to have a chance this year in I-AA.

We would've destroyed TSU with their #2 QB running the show (if he continued like he started).
Rex Racer
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Great post. It's hard to believe that on an Aggie board I have to read a post from a Texas fan before I get anything other than b*tching and moaning.

No it's not.
85AustinAg
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Nice post objective sip. At times you can be over the top, but this one is a good objective analysis.
BQAG02
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I agree that several calls made by the refs killed momentum for them. But I noticed that out of the several times they had the call reviewed, they never reviewed the play where we intercepted the ball and got 1 foot in bounds before he went out. Is that because those plays are not reviewable? That was definitely an interception.
BurntOrangeMenace
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"But I noticed that out of the several times they had the call reviewed, they never reviewed the play where we intercepted the ball and got 1 foot in bounds before he went out. Is that because those plays are not reviewable? That was definitely an interception."

And of our course you know that from the great replay view we had? The officials were right there on the spot. No way in hell their view was worse than the TV shot the viewers had. And yes, that play is reviewable.

Hookem
GQTEXASAGGIE
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Well, yes, the officials were right there and probably had a good view. But if they are always right, why does instant replay exist to officials??

Besides when they did show the replay on tv one of the commentators said something like "Well, wait a minute" b/c it looked like his foot was in. At any rate, just my 2 cents.
BurntOrangeMenace
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And as I said, the TV replay was no different than what we saw live. We had no sideline view.
Why is there replay? Because in some situations, officials simply can't get a good luck, no matter there position. Particularly when it comes to fumbles. But a play like that last night is pretty simple to call from their point of view.

Hookem
GQTEXASAGGIE
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And when they use replay they use video and in the replay it looked in. It's not worth arguing over when you are telling us we didn't see what we saw and know exactly what the official did see.
boogieman
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That play was reviewable, but it looked like the "inbounds" foot was on the line.
GQTEXASAGGIE
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then I guess it wasn't 'inbounds'
91AggieLawyer
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>>but nobody makes that call in that situation<<

I hate to tell you, but not only was it a good call, the official will be graded well on it. If you read the approved rulings in the NCAA book, you will find at least one and possibly three plays that were EXACTLY (or as close as it could be) to the play last night. All said offensive pass interference.

Now, if you are going to assert that the call gets missed a lot, I might agree with that. But to suggest the official swallows his flag when he sees that, isn't accurate -- unless he doesn't care if he will be working in that conference the next year (or next game).
aggiebrad94
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ON the PI in the endzone, did you completely miss the DB getting knocked on his rear? No way he doesn't make that call. Your DB stepped back one or two feet, our guy's feet were in the air.

As for worrying about Tech - we did the same after the CU QB lit us up for 300+ yards. We seem to have a massive problem with playing down to the level of our comp. With the excpetion of the Cotton Bowl & Utah, I thought our defense played decent enough to give us hopes for a win in each game. Seems we are continuing that trend.
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