He is simply a caretaker of emotions

Prototype for the "if they only did it right, it would work" coach.

TyperWoods said:

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The worst part is the cesspool

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Cesspool starts at the top.

I was trying to be optimistic before yesterday's game. But I agree with the OP. The offensive play calls is well….offensive. Blah is a better word. And to hear Elko in the press conference saying, (paraphrasing), that he has no clue what to do or how to fix it. That's tells me he is trying to get fired. He has no discipline over this team, over his staff or himself. None.
BOR, please don't be Baylor and wait 7 years to realize you bought an Edsel. Pull THE Plug!!!

I think that was the intention but the inability to throw just makes running so much harder

AggieInMichigan said:

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Like going for it on 4th down when you're down 11 with 4 minutes to go.

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Even before that, in the 3rd quarter, we're on the Bama 8 yard line on 3rd down. We have to score a touchdown being that close. Instead of throwing a pass trying to score a TD, we RUN the ball for a 1 yard gain to set up the field goal.

TyperWoods said:

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The worst part is the cesspool

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The worst part is the hypocrisy

Perhaps we have a team our stadium team entrance song can be proud of?

We can blame the season on the DJ.

He is very clearly out of his depth.

He doesn't know what to do to correct this mess, and doesn't know what he did to get here.

He's in over his head.

TheDecadeSapling said:

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Is that I see absolutely no attempts to win these games. Try a flea flicker, try a fake punt, maybe a HB pass. Change QBs. Do something, anything to convince me you're actually trying to win. Are we trying so hard to be a "real program" that we forgot what the actual goal is? To win games?

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Hey, early in the game we did run a fake-QB bootleg-run to the short-side of the field from inside the 10 on 1st down that turned out to be a pass….and it failed, so a wasted down and we had to settle for a FG. Of course it's not very tricky to pretend your QB is running a sweep while he might actually pass it.

I thought the waiting was the worst part. Turns out, the waiting is simply just the hardest part.

Every day you get one more yard. You take it on the faith. You take it to the heart.

TheDecadeSapling said:

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I think that was the intention but the inability to throw just makes running so much harder

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That's just not true. The run is totally abandoned regardless of the score. It's full blown panic each week. And Reed dropping back.

Elko had the opposite problem against Kentucky and LSU irrc, where he made a couple of hyper-aggressive go for it calls probably a bit earlier than he needed to that dug the hole deeper. Those calls weren't what lost us those games, but I understand why he may have regretted them later.

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TheDecadeSapling said:

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I think that was the intention but the inability to throw just makes running so much harder

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That's just not true. The run is totally abandoned regardless of the score. It's full blown panic each week. And Reed dropping back.

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Well yeah. When you're getting blown out every week of course the run is abandoned. What game have we hung around in long enough to warrant continuing the run?

TheDecadeSapling said:

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Is that I see absolutely no attempts to win these games. Try a flea flicker, try a fake punt, maybe a HB pass. Change QBs. Do something, anything to convince me you're actually trying to win. Are we trying so hard to be a "real program" that we forgot what the actual goal is? To win games?

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There is not singular "worse part." There are presently a dozen or so equally bad parts.

AggieInMichigan said:

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Like going for it on 4th down when you're down 11 with 4 minutes to go.

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This is where I lost all faith in Elko.

HE QUIT ON ALL OF US.

He was no longer coaching to win, just coaching to manage the defeat.

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AggieInMichigan said:

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Like going for it on 4th down when you're down 11 with 4 minutes to go.

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This is where I lost all faith in Elko.

HE QUIT ON ALL OF US.

He was no longer coaching to win, just coaching to manage the defeat.

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Yeah he'll do it in the 1st bit not 3 minutes left in the 4th.

OP thinks "The Worst Part" is that we aren't running gimmicky plays. That is as far from the worst part as you can get.

rootube said:

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OP thinks "The Worst Part" is that we aren't running gimmicky plays. That is as far from the worst part as you can get.

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That's not what I said. I said we're not making any attempts at actually winning games. Do you see any urgency in game from our coaching staff to win?

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zephyr88 said:

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AggieInMichigan said:

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Like going for it on 4th down when you're down 11 with 4 minutes to go.

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This is where I lost all faith in Elko.

HE QUIT ON ALL OF US.

He was no longer coaching to win, just coaching to manage the defeat.

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Yeah he'll do it in the 1st bit not 3 minutes left in the 4th.

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Fat people will do weird ****

IslanderAg04 said:

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zephyr88 said:

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AggieInMichigan said:

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Like going for it on 4th down when you're down 11 with 4 minutes to go.

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This is where I lost all faith in Elko.

HE QUIT ON ALL OF US.

He was no longer coaching to win, just coaching to manage the defeat.

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Yeah he'll do it in the 1st bit not 3 minutes left in the 4th.

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Vegas called. Couldn't let Bama cover the -13.5 spread. We go for it there and Bama at worst kicks a FG and wins by 14. We punt and they run out the clock.

There is legitimately zero other reasons you punt in this situation.

He should be fired for cause. If you punt in this situation, you're intentionally trying not to win the game.

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Elko had the opposite problem against Kentucky and LSU irrc, where he made a couple of hyper-aggressive go for it calls probably a bit earlier than he needed to that dug the hole deeper. Those calls weren't what lost us those games, but I understand why he may have regretted them later.

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The fourth and one call against Bama that cratered our team in the game wasn't terrible (as far as going for it, not the execution) but it didn't line up with what had worked so far for us in the game.

Up until that point he had been playing conservative by taking the field goals and playing field position. We were up by three, our defense had been pretty good this far and if we had punted we more than likely put them inside the twenty.

But we went for it, completely botched the play which was the beginning of the end. Once the play clock got under five and it was clear we didn't know what to do he should have called a timeout.

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rootube said:

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OP thinks "The Worst Part" is that we aren't running gimmicky plays. That is as far from the worst part as you can get.

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That's not what I said. I said we're not making any attempts at actually winning games. Do you see any urgency in game from our coaching staff to win?

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We are running our offense from last year just incredibly poorly.

rootube said:

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TheDecadeSapling said:

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rootube said:

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OP thinks "The Worst Part" is that we aren't running gimmicky plays. That is as far from the worst part as you can get.

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That's not what I said. I said we're not making any attempts at actually winning games. Do you see any urgency in game from our coaching staff to win?

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We are running our offense from last year just incredibly poorly.

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Yes we are. But that doesn't excuse the dumbfounded looks of confusion as we do the same thing over and over. If you're gonna lose anyways, take the risk. Don't roll over on fourth down with 3 minutes to go and wave the white flag. There's no fight left in this team. I'm not sure there ever was any to begin with

Even the Alabama special teams alignment says - you'd be a fool not to go for it here - we're playing for the fake.