JW said:

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These coaches also assessed Reed, so trust is low. Some kids are gamers, might as well see what they got.

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In all honesty Reed was a jimbo recruit.

If the coaches don't have faith in the backup QBs, they will all leave in the post season and we will be a in tougher spot

the more coolest guy said:

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He was a 4 star, wasn't he? How do you get four stars being awful?

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Pure athleticism. I firmly believe most high level college football players (and basketball players) don't actually truly know the game. They got where they are by being the most athletic guy on the field. At the college level, they're just another guy and their lack of knowledge is exposed.

So AI says there are only 20-30 four star quarterbacks in every class. Is that accurate? If that's accurate, then four stars should mean more than just being the most athletic guy on the field. Hard to believe a four star that hasn't played yet is so awful he'll never see the field.

Wait…so we likely finish 4-8 with Reed or 4-8 evaluating other options to potentially keep or get rid of if they aren't at least a capable backup for next season.

More upside to option 2 and zero downside.

So why more Reed??

JB93 said:

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So why more Reed??

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More experience for Reed for when he is the starter again next year

joerobert_pete06 said:

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If the coaches don't have faith in the backup QBs, they will all leave in the post season and we will be a in tougher spot

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Not really, if they've been on the roster practicing 2-3 years and still aren't capable of playing any better than Reed is now (probably the worst QB in Division I football).

the more coolest guy said:

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So AI says there are only 20-30 four star quarterbacks in every class. Is that accurate? If that's accurate, then four stars should mean more than just being the most athletic guy on the field. Hard to believe a four star that hasn't played yet is so awful he'll never see the field.

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It should but I don't see that it does.

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Gyles Marrett said:

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I agree Hart hasn't looked good either. In a lost year why don't not go to the freshman Casuga and just see wth he can do?

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Seems like the only way this doesn't make sense is that you've seen much evidence in practice that Casuga doesnt have potential.

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I'm sure Reed's looked good in practice, though. Practice play doesn't equate to game time play. Give Casuga a shot in a real game with a simplified playbook and see what he can do. It truly can't be any worse.

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fightinag said:

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I've been asking for Casuga to get playing time for three week !

Why not let him start this week and see his skill level in the big league

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I suspect they see how badly they missed on Casuga's assessment, and the team knows that as well. Putting in Casuga would signal to the team that the coaches have given up. It would probably significantly hamper any chance at Caduga's development, because he would likely get murdered.

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I usually agree with most everything you say, but not this time. Know that I am not trying to be adversarial with you. I read your comments and always appreciate what you have to say. I yield that you know much more football than I, but wish you wouldn't state such a huge opinion based on something you "suspect". It's not fair to the young man. It absolutely yanks the rug out from under him and what he could accomplish here. Like fightinag, I have been calling for Casuga for weeks. I know you have watched his high school tape and was unimpressed. I respect that, but that was from a year ago at least. Also, I don't think he will get murdered if, unlike Reed, he's got some vision and can make quick decisions and distribute the ball the way QB's all over this country do every weekend without running around like a chicken with his head cut off. I am firmly in the "it can't get any worse" camp.

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I'm not sure I understand what is so "huge" about the opinion. Casuga has rarely shown he has it against elevated competition, whether against other high profile HSs or in the spring game. There's a lot of evidence he isn't ready for this level, and thus a ton of reason to "suspect" the defensive players see this everyday, as they chew him up in practice. If you put a guy on the field that looks bad during practice, the rest of the team gets a bad, bad message. If Casuga looked really good in practice, we'd probably hear about it.

Now, I don't think the answer is sticking with Reed. I've said repeatedly that I'd choose the mystery box. I've simply defended the presumed logic of Elko et al., which isn't irrational, even if I disagree. I would start Casuga, now. I think there's a 50/50 chance it ruins him, but college football is a brutal corporate entity - thems the shakes. I also think there's a small chance that when surrounded by the ones, Casuga emerges as a gamer. I like that gamble. I'm just staying clear eyed about the message it sends should he go out there and flop.

As for "yanks the rug", if Casuga is reading this board and incapable of processing projected criticism from an insignificant TexAgs poster, then he unequivocally isn't ready to play. Why? Because the first time he goes 3 and out two consecutive drives, there will be boos at Kyle. That is much more brutal than my insignificant opinion.

im not convinced that with 70k undergrads on campus there isnt anyone who could do just as good if not better

I doubt Casuga even knows the playbook well enough to start.

dc1234 said:

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I doubt Casuga even knows the playbook well enough to start.

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So put together a simpler game plan that he can execute.

At this point, you have to try something different. Or just accept a 4-8 season.

Artorias said:

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dc1234 said:

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I doubt Casuga even knows the playbook well enough to start.

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So put together a simpler game plan that he can execute.

At this point, you have to try something different. Or just accept a 4-8 season.

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Agree. I've been saying for a few weeks that A&M needs to realign around a power inside running game, with man blocking scheme, the zone read, and almost exclusively PA pass (with mix of screens and go balls). Reed has never been a capable field reader, so this should've been the approach from the get go. IMO, the offensive priorities should be 1. Simplify. 2. Give hope, ie qb mystery box. Start Casuga this week. Start Hart against SC. Or flip that. Or just start one. Just acknowledge that Reed has failed, and isn't anywhere close to pulling out of this tailspin.

I get what your saying and no reason to not try something, but the playbook is only part of it. You also have to read a defense, you don't want to ruin a QB because they are not ready.

On second thought, why not. Make the switch.

BillYeoman said:

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Need a new OC. Not a new QB.

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OMG...do you actually watch Reed's passes when the OC has designed plays and the receivers are wide open??!!

MagnumLoad said:

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Are we waiting so Casuga will still be able to redshirt

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sarcasm?

MagnumLoad said:

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Are we waiting so Casuga will still be able to redshirt

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No such thing anymore

Bottom line is that Elko is not fit to be a HC. I'm glad some of y'all are starting to catch on.

TAMU74 said:

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The game against Citadel would be the best time to play Hart and anyone else.
If Reed gets hurt Elko has to put in someone.
Best find out now who that might be.

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Why would any opponent risk injuring Reed? Don't bite the hand that feeds you.

You don't "know" the defense is chewing Casuga up in practice everyday, or that he looks bad in practice everyday. As for hearing if Casuga, or Hart for that matter, was looking good in practice, Elko is extremely tight-lipped with information.

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Artorias said:

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dc1234 said:

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I doubt Casuga even knows the playbook well enough to start.

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So put together a simpler game plan that he can execute.

At this point, you have to try something different. Or just accept a 4-8 season.

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Agree. I've been saying for a few weeks that A&M needs to realign around a power inside running game, with man blocking scheme, the zone read, and almost exclusively PA pass (with mix of screens and go balls). Reed has never been a capable field reader, so this should've been the approach from the get go. IMO, the offensive priorities should be 1. Simplify. 2. Give hope, ie qb mystery box. Start Casuga this week. Start Hart against SC. Or flip that. Or just start one. Just acknowledge that Reed has failed, and isn't anywhere close to pulling out of this tailspin.

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I'm glad to see you acknowledge Reed has failed and can't recover, and advising we start one or the other of Casuga and Hart in whichever order this week and at SC. It's just the predictions of what these talented young men can't do that bothers me.

dc1234 said:

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I doubt Casuga even knows the playbook well enough to start.

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Reed knows the playbook inside out....How's that working out ?

Big Cowboy said:

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You don't "know" the defense is chewing Casuga up in practice everyday, or that he looks bad in practice everyday. As for hearing if Casuga, or Hart for that matter, was looking good in practice, Elko is extremely tight-lipped with information.

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Obviously the ONLY thing his lips have been tight around....certainly open to HAMBURGERS

fightinag said:

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dc1234 said:

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I doubt Casuga even knows the playbook well enough to start.

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Reed knows the playbook inside out....How's that working out ?

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Not good, because he's stinks right now. I bet Casuga would be worse.

Sir, "That's Cesspool" response...


Someone should make a meme to post that say's 'That's Cesspool" for non football remarks...

I'm not going to pay Texags any money to post stuff like meme's etc....esp after Billy went on air bowing to Potnoy and Brandon (not a fan of those arses...clips I saw were not a good representation and understand they are posting clips for their clicks or algorithms so prob out of context for Billy as didn't watch the show at all).

Potnoy has different issues with UM football which is joyful to watch though. And Brandon is MS St sucker and can only hang is hat on QB (will be glorious if that kid does leave for NIL after this season as he will melt into a puddle of goo).

I too am in the "what is there to lose" camp at this point, but starting anyone other than Reed (probably rest of season) is an admission of failure. Not gonna happen. Simple as that.

Big Cowboy said:

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Artorias said:

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dc1234 said:

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I doubt Casuga even knows the playbook well enough to start.

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So put together a simpler game plan that he can execute.

At this point, you have to try something different. Or just accept a 4-8 season.

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Agree. I've been saying for a few weeks that A&M needs to realign around a power inside running game, with man blocking scheme, the zone read, and almost exclusively PA pass (with mix of screens and go balls). Reed has never been a capable field reader, so this should've been the approach from the get go. IMO, the offensive priorities should be 1. Simplify. 2. Give hope, ie qb mystery box. Start Casuga this week. Start Hart against SC. Or flip that. Or just start one. Just acknowledge that Reed has failed, and isn't anywhere close to pulling out of this tailspin.

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I'm glad to see you acknowledge Reed has failed and can't recover, and advising we start one or the other of Casuga and Hart in whichever order this week and at SC. It's just the predictions of what these talented young men can't do that bothers me.

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I have always been aboard starting another guy, I've just always tried to temper the emotional tantrums of those screaming that Elko is an idiot to not do it. I've stated since prior to last season that Reed is a Sam level qb. Then A&M landed the most miraculous schedule in SEC history, and made the playoff. It was an illusion of team greatness, but the results were indeed a playoff birth, and Elko felt committed to Reed.

I think Elko made an idiotic decision to leave the qb room as is, but I can concurrently think he's making a logical choice to start Reed right now, even if I staunchly disagree.

Additionally, I've been clear about preferring the "mystery box" of the backup. At the same time, I try to stay cleared eyed about what impressions those mystery box guys have made in prior exposures. You seem to have an issue with my analysis that those guys aren't ready for this level, and/or simply aren't dudes at the SEC level. That's a matter of talent assessment, it's not me attacking their character. You call them "talented young men" and I agree they are talented athletes, but your inclusion of that line implies "talented enough for SEC caliber football." I think they are maybe ACC or Big12 talented. That's talented, but it's not good enough at this level. Hart played 2a ball in Florida, and has simply looked bad in college level action. Casuga was a mid-ish four star who played on a loaded team in Utah, is maybe 6', and has looked very rough against elevated HS competition and in the spring game.

If we can't criticize the talent, or projected talent, on the roster, what are we doing here? Professional football is first and foremost a talent acquisition game. We are well past the day of "good ol' Ags".

And to clarify, I would start Casuga this weekend, and I would eagerly watch with hopes of greatness. I would then dissect the no huddle with genuine enjoyment. I wish each and every guy on the team the maximal realization of their talents. But I'm not going to act like college football is an extension of A&M culture, that good Ags are being developed, and we should give rosters time to mature. This is the SEC. This is pro football.

I genuinely look forward to a day in which there is a return to pure scholarship sports, and a college professional league. I'll follow the scholarship league more closely. Until then, we've collectively decided to make college sports yet another massive money grab, so I'll look upon the sport with similar eyes I look upon the nfl.