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rickslatts
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I see the QB options available behind Reed and think, why are there not better backup options ready to plug in?

This was supposed to be a team that could make the playoffs. You should assume your backup QB will be needed, at some point. Elko should have gone and gotten a journeyman backup.
texag101
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rickslatts said:

I see the QB options available behind Reed and think, why are there not better backup options ready to plug in?

This was supposed to be a team that could make the playoffs. You should assume your backup QB will be needed, at some point. Elko should have gone and gotten a journeyman backup.
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Bill Superman
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It's crazy how short of a memory Elko must have. He knew at one point how important backup QB's are.
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texag101 said:

rickslatts said:

I see the QB options available behind Reed and think, why are there not better backup options ready to plug in?

This was supposed to be a team that could make the playoffs. You should assume your backup QB will be needed, at some point. Elko should have gone and gotten a journeyman backup.

How much NIL did you donate?

There's plenty of money. Elko mismanaged the roster.
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Cajun Ag 86 said:

texag101 said:

rickslatts said:

I see the QB options available behind Reed and think, why are there not better backup options ready to plug in?

This was supposed to be a team that could make the playoffs. You should assume your backup QB will be needed, at some point. Elko should have gone and gotten a journeyman backup.

How much NIL did you donate?

There's plenty of money. Elko mismanaged the roster.

There's also plenty of money for Elko, regardless of whether or not he is successful as head coach.
Just sayin'...
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texag101 said:

rickslatts said:

I see the QB options available behind Reed and think, why are there not better backup options ready to plug in?

This was supposed to be a team that could make the playoffs. You should assume your backup QB will be needed, at some point. Elko should have gone and gotten a journeyman backup.

How much NIL did you donate?

How much he or she donated to NIL is not relevant. A lot of money was spent on the roster and failing to address this situation was a huge blunder on Elko's part.
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texag101 said:

rickslatts said:

I see the QB options available behind Reed and think, why are there not better backup options ready to plug in?

This was supposed to be a team that could make the playoffs. You should assume your backup QB will be needed, at some point. Elko should have gone and gotten a journeyman backup.
How much NIL did you donate?


They had enough to extend Elko before he won anything. There was enough money for a backup qb
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any chance of Showers this wkd?
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We don't really know much about Hart. He's thrown 19 passes in 2 years. Really need a bigger sample size. He doesn't even have time to calm down when he gets in there. I'd love to see him play a full half minimum.

And Casuga hasn't touched the field.

Things might not be as bleak as many are thinking.
Pichael Thompson
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So what is the company line going to be when hart transfers out, finds immediate success, & we're still stuck w marcel tossing 5 yard grounders?
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Pichael Thompson said:

So what is the company line going to be when hart transfers out, finds immediate success, & we're still stuck w marcel tossing 5 yard grounders?

Short of a remarkable turnaround, Marcel won't be QB1 here next season.
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Hart plays like he knows Reed will be the starting QB not only this year but next.
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Cajun Ag 86 said:

texag101 said:

rickslatts said:

I see the QB options available behind Reed and think, why are there not better backup options ready to plug in?

This was supposed to be a team that could make the playoffs. You should assume your backup QB will be needed, at some point. Elko should have gone and gotten a journeyman backup.

How much NIL did you donate?

There's plenty of money. Elko mismanaged the roster.
False
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Slicer97 said:

Pichael Thompson said:

So what is the company line going to be when hart transfers out, finds immediate success, & we're still stuck w marcel tossing 5 yard grounders?

Short of a remarkable turnaround, Marcel won't be QB1 here next season.

That's gonna really throw off Elko's plans
Chemistry happens and eventually the rocks get opinions...
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TMartin said:


Hart plays like he knows Reed will be the starting QB not only this year but next.


Yeah, him and his 9 whole pass attempts. You can really get a great feel for the guy.
Give me the guy who shoots for excellence and fails over the guy who shoots for mediocrity and succeeds.
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Totally mismanaged - no backup on a ****ing $40mm roster to even deal with an emergency situation. By the way, we are in an emergency situation.
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Fran and Sherman had QB depth:

Reggie & McGee

McGee & Jerrod

Jerrod & Tannehill

over a 7-year stretch
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greg.w.h said:

Cajun Ag 86 said:

texag101 said:

rickslatts said:

I see the QB options available behind Reed and think, why are there not better backup options ready to plug in?

This was supposed to be a team that could make the playoffs. You should assume your backup QB will be needed, at some point. Elko should have gone and gotten a journeyman backup.

How much NIL did you donate?

There's plenty of money. Elko mismanaged the roster.
False


What data point are you using when you say False? Are you hanging your hat on the field goal kicker?
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W said:

Fran and Sherman had QB depth:

Reggie & McGee

McGee & Jerrod

Jerrod & Tannehill

over a 7-year stretch

Jerrod was way overrated around here--- reminds me of the Reed situation... Not as good a runner as you would like and not accurate. And got worse over time. But that's some other solid qbs on the roster for sure.
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Hart was more of a potential prospect...but Casuga was a high 4 start highly sought after recruit. The problem is development not the talent on the roster. LSU put a kid in ranked much lower after Leavitt went out who looked bigger and stronger and that he could start for us right now.
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Elko had an avalanche of poor poor decisions between the end of the Miami game and the end of portal season. All of those decisions have now been stacked one on top of the other compounding our problems into a spiraling nose dive it feels like. I can understand one or two bad moves here and there but so many just really raises a red flag on the head coach if we are being honest.

Not getting a more experienced QB to at least come in and be a reliable arm. It didn't have to be a guy who was all world, just a guy who we could be confident in completing a few hitch routes and the occasional swing pass out into the flats or screens.

Hiring not one, but 2 inexperienced coordinators? I'm willing to let Wiggins slide some because from my seats I feel like the play calls are decent, and the WRs are getting open but Reed just isn't getting it to them. So maybe Wiggins is a bad hire, maybe not? But Hemphill has obviously been absolutely horrible hire apparently.

Hiring Joey Lynch as QBC? He has a pretty suspect track record and we hire him to coach up a suspect QB? Who does that?? Why would you do that?

After last year's finish, Elko coulda hired any assistant in the country and he literally flubbed every hire except for ERob and maybe Travis Williams. (Both those guys are pretty highly regarded though so neither really required much work from Elko).

Then the portal....Geez what a total mismanagement there. Not only not getting a QB, but bringing in really low quality depth guys instead of actual difference makers. The schools that are doing well are not loading up on 20 depth guys. They are taking 4-5 difference makers and calling it a day. Those schools have 4-5 guys adding a lot of value to their teams while our 20 additions (save for maybe Horton) are adding zero value right now. They are doing nothing.
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Cajun Ag 86 said:

texag101 said:

rickslatts said:

I see the QB options available behind Reed and think, why are there not better backup options ready to plug in?

This was supposed to be a team that could make the playoffs. You should assume your backup QB will be needed, at some point. Elko should have gone and gotten a journeyman backup.

How much NIL did you donate?

There's plenty of money. Elko mismanaged the roster.

That alone speaks volumes and gives cause for concern about his head coaching ability (edit: read the above post).

Not only are we not getting out of this position (i.e., racking up the losses) because of failure to properly identify personnel needs and execute what needs to be done, but now you're digging a deeper hole that may impact future recruits and assistant coaches.

I predict this will be a losing year followed by an improved year followed by an average year and then Elko is gone and the cycle continues.

If he can turn things around, like win out or something pretty darn close, then I'll believe we found someone special. But, that's seems a pipe dream in the vein of false hope and sunshine pumping based on what we've seen.
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W said:

Fran and Sherman had QB depth:

Reggie & McGee

McGee & Jerrod

Jerrod & Tannehill

over a 7-year stretch


Much different animal now with NIL and the ability to transfer so much easier
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An experienced portal QB and our former five-star commit backup Leavitt. Elko is just wrong.
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In 2014, Ohio State lost starting QB Braxton Miller before the season.
J.T. Barrett stepped in and had an incredible year… then broke his ankle against Michigan.
So Ohio State turned to its THIRD-STRING QB, Cardale Jones.
What happened next?
Beat Wisconsin 590 in the Big Ten Championship
Beat #1 Alabama in the College Football Playoff
Beat Oregon 4220 for the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP
Ohio State went all the way to QB3 and still won it all.
Fast-forward to today, in the NIL and transfer-portal era, and somehow the Aggies can't even have ONE dependable backup QB ready to step in?
If Ohio State could build championship-level depth three quarterbacks deep in 2014, how are we struggling to have a reliable QB2 today?
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AggielandPoultry said:

If Ohio State could build championship-level depth three quarterbacks deep in 2014, how are we struggling to have a reliable QB2 today?

Extremely poor head coach decision making.
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texag101 said:

rickslatts said:

I see the QB options available behind Reed and think, why are there not better backup options ready to plug in?

This was supposed to be a team that could make the playoffs. You should assume your backup QB will be needed, at some point. Elko should have gone and gotten a journeyman backup.

How much NIL did you donate?

"Most rediculous comment ever award" candidate. I'm hoping for you it's a troll becuase, bless your heart.

Are we now saying you must be inve$$ted in a college football team to be invested in a college football team?

I thought we all agree the current state of college football pay for play is bad for the sport? Hard to keep up...


There should have been a plan. The poorest of the poor should be shouting it from the mountain top whilst listening to Aggie football on an AM radio eating Ramen noodles and Spam.
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AggielandPoultry said:

In 2014, Ohio State lost starting QB Braxton Miller before the season.
J.T. Barrett stepped in and had an incredible year… then broke his ankle against Michigan.
So Ohio State turned to its THIRD-STRING QB, Cardale Jones.
What happened next?
Beat Wisconsin 590 in the Big Ten Championship
Beat #1 Alabama in the College Football Playoff
Beat Oregon 4220 for the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP
Ohio State went all the way to QB3 and still won it all.
Fast-forward to today, in the NIL and transfer-portal era, and somehow the Aggies can't even have ONE dependable backup QB ready to step in?
If Ohio State could build championship-level depth three quarterbacks deep in 2014, how are we struggling to have a reliable QB2 today?


I agree this is a terrible job by our staff (I worry it is more about terrible coaching vs terrible recruits)

But that 2014 situations is way less likely to happen now.

Back then kids couldn't generally transfer without sitting out a year and NIL wasn't a thing.

So kids would sit and wait their turn at a school like OSU.

Also, OSU coaching had a lot to do with them all being prepared, IMO.

Now days, those kids would bolt in a heartbeat because they could get paid and start the next year.

It is HARDER to do than now than in 2014.
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Pichael Thompson said:

So what is the company line going to be when hart transfers out, finds immediate success, & we're still stuck w marcel tossing 5 yard grounders?



Hopefully, Elko processes Reed out of the system after the season.
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Our QBs:

We have 1 true Freshman
We have 2 red shirt Freshman (meaning they've been practicing at A&M for 2 years)
We have 1 red shirt Sophomore (meaning he's been practicing at A&M for 3 years)

AND none of them are capable of playing? They need more time to be "ready"??? What a load of crap. I understand perhaps for the true freshman, but if the others aren't ready, that's on the coaches, or the players are so lousy they shouldn't be on the team.
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Whaler said:

Our QBs:

We have 1 true Freshman
We have 2 red shirt Freshman (meaning they've been practicing at A&M for 2 years)
We have 1 red shirt Sophomore (meaning he's been practicing at A&M for 3 years)

AND none of them are capable of playing? They need more time to be "ready"??? What a load of crap. I understand perhaps for the true freshman, but if the others aren't ready, that's on the coaches, or the players are so lousy they shouldn't be on the team.


AMEN!
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Charlie 31 said:

Cajun Ag 86 said:

texag101 said:

rickslatts said:

I see the QB options available behind Reed and think, why are there not better backup options ready to plug in?

This was supposed to be a team that could make the playoffs. You should assume your backup QB will be needed, at some point. Elko should have gone and gotten a journeyman backup.

How much NIL did you donate?

There's plenty of money. Elko mismanaged the roster.

There's also plenty of money for Elko, regardless of whether or not he is successful as head coach.
Just sayin'...
I guess none of yall realize how much better that money could be utilized in our program elsewhere.
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AggielandPoultry said:

In 2014, Ohio State lost starting QB Braxton Miller before the season.
J.T. Barrett stepped in and had an incredible year… then broke his ankle against Michigan.
So Ohio State turned to its THIRD-STRING QB, Cardale Jones.
What happened next?
Beat Wisconsin 590 in the Big Ten Championship
Beat #1 Alabama in the College Football Playoff
Beat Oregon 4220 for the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP
Ohio State went all the way to QB3 and still won it all.
Fast-forward to today, in the NIL and transfer-portal era, and somehow the Aggies can't even have ONE dependable backup QB ready to step in?
If Ohio State could build championship-level depth three quarterbacks deep in 2014, how are we struggling to have a reliable QB2 today?

2026 is not like 2014. I'm sure Ohio State is questioning Sayin right now after the way 2025 ended and losing to Texas.

Teams aren't built with QB depth anymore.
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South Platte said:

AggielandPoultry said:

In 2014, Ohio State lost starting QB Braxton Miller before the season.
J.T. Barrett stepped in and had an incredible year… then broke his ankle against Michigan.
So Ohio State turned to its THIRD-STRING QB, Cardale Jones.
What happened next?
Beat Wisconsin 590 in the Big Ten Championship
Beat #1 Alabama in the College Football Playoff
Beat Oregon 4220 for the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP
Ohio State went all the way to QB3 and still won it all.
Fast-forward to today, in the NIL and transfer-portal era, and somehow the Aggies can't even have ONE dependable backup QB ready to step in?
If Ohio State could build championship-level depth three quarterbacks deep in 2014, how are we struggling to have a reliable QB2 today?

2026 is not like 2014. I'm sure Ohio State is questioning Sayin right now after the way 2025 ended and losing to Texas.

Teams aren't built with QB depth anymore.

This is a good point. That said, there will always be programs that are able to keep depth better than others, I think. The question becomes, Is A&M on that list. '

Will quality QBs sit at A&M and wait their turn? tu? OSU? Oregon? Bama? Georgia? etc...

ETA: Limiting D1 transfers to 1 jump might help.
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Part of the problem is the money that was spent on Reed. Once you spend that kind of money on a guy, you are sort of married to him. If you trot out a replacement and he struggles, now you lose the starter to the portal and you are stuck with someone who couldn't perform (back to the portal in search of a replacement). If you trot out a replacement and he does well, now you have to pay him or he's going elsewhere. If the both look the same, now you have pissed off donors who paid handsomely for a guy you put on the bench. Its very similar to an NFL team giving big money to a 1st round draft pick at QB who flames out. It happens all the time and that is with 3 or 4 more years of film on a guy.
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