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Don't have to watch the whole video, but it's not very long. TLDW: in this day and age of college football, you're going to have off years. Texas A&M is better with Elko, just need to figure out personnel for next season.

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Meh…no excuses.
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Are videos like this the cure for BAS?

Or am I not fully understanding BAS?
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Obviously stupid decisions have been made. Unless he learns… there will be more.
Fatboy Thaddeus
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Great solution: "wait 'til next year"
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There is no cure for BAS. It might lay dormant for a period of time, sometimes even a few years, but then it just flares back up with a vengeance.
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RealMcCoy09 said:

There is no cure for BAS. It might lay dormant for a period of time, sometimes even a few years, but then it just flares back up with a vengeance.


It's basically herpes.
The Banned
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As long as it doesn't totally tank recruiting and portal potential. Not sure how badly players want to play for a coach if it appears that he can't coach
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The problem lies in the fact that there is significant fatigue, call it BAS, from the fan base. For decades we have been prodded, cajoled, encouraged, and told that if we only build this facility, or hire this coach, and now spend this much on roster/NIL, that all of the pieces are in place and we will compete for conference and national championships. The fanbase have heard this and are tired of hearing it. No one wants to see regression, we would rather see re-load.

A loss to Arkansas and/or Mizzou will cause the fan base to check out altogether. People ain't drinking the kool-aid or buying the sunshine anymore. So Josh Pate can espouse all sorts of wisdom that may be true but when its been since 1998 for a conference championship and 87 years since a national championship, people are gonna say "yeah right."
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Guy on a Buffalo said:



Don't have to watch the whole video, but it's not very long. TLDW: in this day and age of college football, you're going to have off years. Texas A&M is better with Elko, just need to figure out personnel for next season.


He was supposed to do this, this year. Best secondary? He's in over his head.
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geo said:

Guy on a Buffalo said:



Don't have to watch the whole video, but it's not very long. TLDW: in this day and age of college football, you're going to have off years. Texas A&M is better with Elko, just need to figure out personnel for next season.


He was supposed to do this, this year. Best secondary? He's in over his head.

i bet our secondary looked incredible against our offense in practice.
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Sgt. Schultz said:

The problem lies in the fact that there is significant fatigue, call it BAS, from the fan base. For decades we have been prodded, cajoled, encouraged, and told that if we only build this facility, or hire this coach, and now spend this much on roster/NIL, that all of the pieces are in place and we will compete for conference and national championships. The fanbase have heard this and are tired of hearing it. No one wants to see regression, we would rather see re-load.

A loss to Arkansas and/or Mizzou will cause the fan base to check out altogether. People ain't drinking the kool-aid or buying the sunshine anymore. So Josh Pate can espouse all sorts of wisdom that may be true but when its been since 1998 for a conference championship and 87 years since a national championship, people are gonna say "yeah right."

Especially with Cignetti getting it done at freaking Indiana of all places. Reed sucks and the rest of the team is starting to fail with him. The "down" part of this year is due to poor coaching
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3 years out
Nino Brown
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He's got good points as always.

However, it's the lack of halftime adjustments of any kind that bothers me the most.
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Penn State and Texas A&M are definitely alike in many ways..... abundant resources, but no real progress in the sphere that is athletics. Both are world class institutions of higher learning, but that's not what we are talking about here...
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Guy on a Buffalo said:



Don't have to watch the whole video, but it's not very long. TLDW: in this day and age of college football, you're going to have off years. Texas A&M is better with Elko, just need to figure out personnel for next season.


"In this day and age, you're going to have off years". Then why doesn't that happen to Kirby Smart? Pre NIL-he was dominant. Now with NIL, guess what still dominant. Nothing has changed. And it's not like Georgia is outspending A&M..The more things change, the more they stay the same. Get a good coach and you'll win, if you don't, you won't.
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Elko may have made two mistakes with the coordinator hires he made.

We could expect some drop off losing 7 linemen and some key players but what we are seeing is poor coaching and play calling. We brought in supposedly good talent to replace those we lost. The two coordinators are the biggest changes we had from last season and are seemingly underperforming on fundamental football.

Fix the coordinators and I believe we get back on track?
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AG 87 said:

Elko may have made two mistakes with the coordinator hires he made.

We could expect some drop off losing 7 linemen and some key players but what we are seeing is poor coaching and play calling. We brought in supposedly good talent to replace those we lost. The two coordinators are the biggest changes we had from last season and are seemingly underperforming on fundamental football.

Fix the coordinators and I believe we get back on track?

Reed is throwing wildly uncatchable balls to open receivers. That's not an OC problem

The defense plays well through 2 quarters, and crumbles in the 3rd when it's clear the game is over. That's not (completely) a DC problem.

The one issue with the DC is that I think he changes nothing at halftime, the other team schemes a perfect drive for exactly what they just saw for 2 quarters. It works, and everyone gives up. The OC could also hurry the hell up on his play calls, but that may be an Elko philosophy, as that happened a lot with Klein too.
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How in the hell do these talking heads get so popular?

If I am going to spend time consuming non-fictional content, it sure won't be listening to some dork's hot take on whatever-the-f*** topic to steer low information listeners/viewers to believe in such-and-such narrative the creator is trying to create.

PS - This was a rhetorical question, so no one actually needs to answer it. If you have an answer, just keep it to yourself.
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Elko hasnt done ANYTHING!!! NOT WHILE AT TAMU OR DUKE! Why do yall put this fraud on some mythical pedestal!?! And now that hes being exposed, yall still knowingly sit there and pump sunshine... this dude scammed this university and continues to pull the bags over yalls head.. "better with elko". Smh
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Sgt. Schultz said:

The problem lies in the fact that there is significant fatigue, call it BAS, from the fan base. For decades we have been prodded, cajoled, encouraged, and told that if we only build this facility, or hire this coach, and now spend this much on roster/NIL, that all of the pieces are in place and we will compete for conference and national championships. The fanbase have heard this and are tired of hearing it. No one wants to see regression, we would rather see re-load.

A loss to Arkansas and/or Mizzou will cause the fan base to check out altogether. People ain't drinking the kool-aid or buying the sunshine anymore. So Josh Pate can espouse all sorts of wisdom that may be true but when its been since 1998 for a conference championship and 87 years since a national championship, people are gonna say "yeah right."
It's understandable that you think that's right. But….oddly enough…it's not. Aggies have been "coming back for more" for almost 100 years. Every year there is hope, the stadium is full, and TexAgs is full of sunshine pumpers. Some may give up, but not enough to notice. And we're churning out new, hopeful Aggies at a record pace.
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The Banned said:

AG 87 said:

Elko may have made two mistakes with the coordinator hires he made.

We could expect some drop off losing 7 linemen and some key players but what we are seeing is poor coaching and play calling. We brought in supposedly good talent to replace those we lost. The two coordinators are the biggest changes we had from last season and are seemingly underperforming on fundamental football.

Fix the coordinators and I believe we get back on track?

Reed is throwing wildly uncatchable balls to open receivers. That's not an OC problem

The defense plays well through 2 quarters, and crumbles in the 3rd when it's clear the game is over. That's not (completely) a DC problem.

The one issue with the DC is that I think he changes nothing at halftime, the other team schemes a perfect drive for exactly what they just saw for 2 quarters. It works, and everyone gives up. The OC could also hurry the hell up on his play calls, but that may be an Elko philosophy, as that happened a lot with Klein too.
it is an OC and HC problem.
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Fatboy Thaddeus said:

Great solution: "wait 'til next year"


I've been waiting 'til next year for 51 years now….
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88Warrior said:

Fatboy Thaddeus said:

Great solution: "wait 'til next year"


I've been waiting 'til next year for 51 years now….
the beatings will continue until morale improves
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Your eyes are either lying to you, or telling the truth when watching the Aggies play football!

I don't have lying eyes…..they are telling me the truth!

This team is poorly coached, and players are not that good!
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Georgia has finished in the top 10 for nine straight years

Top 5 in at least one poll in 6 of those 9 years.
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so next year? smh
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agree with pate, but this isnt a slight problem. the coordinators are an absolute disaster and those are on him.
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texag101 said:

Sgt. Schultz said:

The problem lies in the fact that there is significant fatigue, call it BAS, from the fan base. For decades we have been prodded, cajoled, encouraged, and told that if we only build this facility, or hire this coach, and now spend this much on roster/NIL, that all of the pieces are in place and we will compete for conference and national championships. The fanbase have heard this and are tired of hearing it. No one wants to see regression, we would rather see re-load.

A loss to Arkansas and/or Mizzou will cause the fan base to check out altogether. People ain't drinking the kool-aid or buying the sunshine anymore. So Josh Pate can espouse all sorts of wisdom that may be true but when its been since 1998 for a conference championship and 87 years since a national championship, people are gonna say "yeah right."
It's understandable that you think that's right. But….oddly enough…it's not. Aggies have been "coming back for more" for almost 100 years. Every year there is hope, the stadium is full, and TexAgs is full of sunshine pumpers. Some may give up, but not enough to notice. And we're churning out new, hopeful Aggies at a record pace.


I was referring to this year.

But, you are correct. Our fan base is loaded with folks who will not vote with their feet or wallet when it comes time to renew season tickets. The new recruiting class, sacrificing a coordinator, and the typical TA kool-aid and sunshine pumping will result in a sold out Kyle Field and honestly, another 7-5, 8-4 type year. We will have the built-in excuses of young team, new system, etc..... wash, rinse, repeat. Its as predictable as August in Texas being hot.
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I like pate but this is dumb. In the NIL and portal era, you should reload and not have years like this. Other school do it but we can't
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Guy on a Buffalo said:



Don't have to watch the whole video, but it's not very long. TLDW: in this day and age of college football, you're going to have off years. Texas A&M is better with Elko, just need to figure out personnel for next season.


Except there are many teams whose "off years" are dropping one or two games. Our off years consist of us losing several.
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Good coaches don't let this happen. Not in year 1 and certainly not in year 3.

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Guy on a Buffalo said:



Don't have to watch the whole video, but it's not very long. TLDW: in this day and age of college football, you're going to have off years. Texas A&M is better with Elko, just need to figure out personnel for next season.


I get that, but having confidence in Elko making good decisions for future of the program is dropping fast.
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