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12:19a, 6/4/26
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Nick Saban throws some shade our way (again),this time before Ted Cruz's senate committee.
Several sports shows, including Feinbaum, have declared that they know which is the 'collective' which shall not be named.


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The Collective
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5:53a, 6/4/26
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How dare we
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6:33a, 6/4/26
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7:14a, 6/4/26
Can't really argue against anything he said.
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7:36a, 6/4/26
So he won't name us but calls out Ole Miss twice…
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In reply to Doc Hayworth • 7:40a, 6/4/26
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Doc Hayworth said:
Can't really argue against anything he said.
What Herod does not say is how he profited from college football personally while the NCAA intentionally impoverished student athletes.

He also does not say he made that much money by creating an inherent advantage that actually reduced parity visibly.

Last year was the best parity we have seen in at least a half century. I'll note that fans who own businesses should not be forced out of sponsorships which frankly are as simple as that using marketing like TexAgs does that exchanges NIL money for appearances and autographs and advertisngbthst features athletes. And Nick did not say that was okay.
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7:41a, 6/4/26
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The fact that he can sit there and pretend like the bama bagmen didn't have anything to do with his success is laughable.
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7:58a, 6/4/26
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May all be true, but also hypocritical of these coaches demanding millions and millions of dollars. We all know he's just mad because everyone can do what the blue bloods have been getting away with for decades.

While I know the players should get their piece of the giant money pie, it's a shame most don't have the maturity to manage their new fortunes.

Let's all hope they can sort thru some of this and find a happy medium, because we can all agree that college sports landscape is on a very slippery slope.
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In reply to SunrayAg • 8:02a, 6/4/26
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SunrayAg said:
The fact that he can sit there and pretend like the bama bagmen didn't have anything to do with his success is laughable.

Well, that and the fact that he "lawyered" his way around NCAA rules to gain recruiting advantages time and again to where they had to update the rules.

He was famous for over-signing every recruiting class and purging older guys that didn't pan out.
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8:25a, 6/4/26
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Starting to dislike him as much as I disliked Lou Holtz. He can pretend it was all x's and o's all he wants.
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8:32a, 6/4/26
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8:50a, 6/4/26
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Screw Nick Saban.

All this is is a guy trying to hold protect dear old Bama in a new world where Bama is hopelessly out gunned.

That's all this is.

Piss on Saban and Bama. Let that state find some other source of self worth.
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9:20a, 6/4/26
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As a HC - Saban quickly bailed on a league where talent acquisition is controlled.
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In reply to The Collective • 9:56a, 6/4/26
Just like Darrell Royal did when he couldn't buy the best team anymore.
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9:58a, 6/4/26
He is the absolute LAST guy who should be throwing any stones of any kind.
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10:18a, 6/4/26
Saban longs for the good ol' days, where $100,000 in cash was delivered in a paper bag by a shady "bagman", and paying players parents utility bills, car payments, and of course players clothing at the local mens clothing retailer, and a new set of tires/rims at the local auto shop. All fine and dandy back then.

When NIL was implemented, Saban was quick to meet with all the local Chambers of Commerce throughout Alabama to raise NIL money outside of the paper bags, tires/rims, and suits. Had to keep up with the Jones' don't ya know.
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10:20a, 6/4/26
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He is not wrong that it is causing a mess and it will eventually destroy the product everyone loves. Then the kids no longer get the pay they should across much of college sports. It will also crush the lesser sports.
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10:22a, 6/4/26
"They're cheating better than me!"
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In reply to Signel • 10:27a, 6/4/26
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Signel said:
He is not wrong that it is causing a mess and it will eventually destroy the product everyone loves. Then the kids no longer get the pay they should across much of college sports. It will also crush the lesser sports.


He's not wrong but it's hypocritical coming from his mouth
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11:46a, 6/4/26
I am not a fan of the current system. That said, Nick Saban suggesting college football has "become pay for play" is an absolute joke. What it has become is legal. What it has become is a system without a protected class. It has become easier to pay more athletes. It has become easier to pay a few athletes more money.

The White Knight act is off-putting.
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In reply to swc93 • 12:06p, 6/4/26
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swc93 said:
Starting to dislike him as much as I disliked Lou Holtz. He can pretend it was all x's and o's all he wants.

Yep, if his X's and O's were so great then he would have had a much better NFL head coaching record than 15-17.
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12:34p, 6/4/26
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Lil bro had the pancake factory well before the collective, do better research Nicholas
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In reply to Signel • 12:51p, 6/4/26
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Signel said:
He is not wrong that it is causing a mess and it will eventually destroy the product everyone loves. Then the kids no longer get the pay they should across much of college sports. It will also crush the lesser sports.

That "product" was destroyed by the television networks, and the conferences and schools involved.

And it was inevitable. Too much money at stake and everyone wants some. So you had to ease college football into what it maybe always was. Minor league pro sports. It was either that, or don't take the money.

Everyone took the money. Go figure.

So now Bama, and other "blue bloods" who suddenly find themselves at pronounced competitive disadvantage will lobby the US Congress to regulate away that disadvantage. Some "blue bloods" like the sips, or Ohio State and the like will quietly back this because they were on top in the old system. But not overtly support it, because they will be fine in the new system too.

Whatever one's feelings about what "everyone loves" about the sport are, its changed and its no going back. You want some form of salary cap or some other measures to rein in the "wild west?" Fine. Maybe thats a good idea. But you ain't cutting out the Aggies anymore. OR Ole Miss, or Indiana either for that matter.

Money talks, and we've got plenty of it.

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5:34p, 6/4/26
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The Devil has been trying to return both Saban and Cruz's souls to them for years with no success.
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6:00p, 6/4/26
One of the biggest cheaters in the history of college football.
The ultimate hypocrisy.
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6:50p, 6/4/26
As the story goes, when Myles Garrett was being recruited, Saban made a rare personal recruiting trip to Arlington to make his pitch to the nation's top recruit. His "pitch" apparently started with, "Well, what do you think? I flew up here personally to see you! What do you think of that?" Myles' response: "I thought you'd be taller..."
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In reply to Doc Hayworth • 7:23p, 6/4/26
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Doc Hayworth said:
Can't really argue against anything he said.

Yeah you can. He wants to put a cap on the free market that CFB has become. We used to have a cap and what happened? Dudes like him and many more conducted deals under the table to get an advantage over the schools that chose to play by the rules.

So you have two choices:
A) Let every school pay the amount they want to pay for rosters to be competitive, just like they already do for recruiting visits, facilities, and coaching. Let every team decide where they want to waste their money.
B) Limit everyone to paying the same amount over the table and go back to bagmen winning championships under the table.
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7:35p, 6/4/26
Saban failed to mention he was talking to a group of bama boosters trying to get them to ante up what A&M was paying so he would not fall behind when he first brought this up.
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10:55p, 6/4/26
There was a time when street agents dominated the money exchanges in college football, with Ohio State and Tennessee having the most effective network of street agents. When I was at A&M, the athletes at Texas lived in Jester Hall. A friend of mine was a jock at Texas at the time, and he said the cash payments came in the form of cash in unmarked envelopes in Jester Hall P.O. boxes. Baylor had a work around for overpaying football players as compensation for living off campus. If you ever get a chance, look up the compensation package that Warren McVea got for going to Houston (cars, luxury apartment, personal valet, etc.). The bottom line is that this kind of cheating has been going on forever, with a small number of high profile schools being able to do it with impunity because of their value to TV contracts. When NIL leveled the playing field, those sacred cows (yeah, I said that) no longer had the advantage, so now the old school cheaters like Saban have found religion and they want to bring the riff-raff back under control. When you mix politics and college football, the only thing that you can be sure of is that no one has pure motives when it comes to working out a solution. Everyone is just looking out for themselves.
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In reply to Gradaggie05 • 12:02p, 6/5/26
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Gradaggie05 said:
The Devil has been trying to return both Saban and Cruz's souls to them for years with no success.
That comment assumes each has one to return…
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In reply to CoachLB • 12:20p, 6/5/26
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Saban failed to mention he was talking to a group of bama boosters trying to get them to ante up what A&M was paying so he would not fall behind when he first brought this up.


Bingo.
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12:29p, 6/5/26

Over the decades I've grown tired of Saban's rhetoric about college football players needing help with structure, discipline, accountability, academic support, graduation rates etc. Is it just the 85 football players who matter, what about the other 45,000 students at University of Alabama who receive none of these things?
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In reply to Rectitude • 12:55p, 6/5/26
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I thought Cruz was for free markets and low regulation?
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1:24p, 6/5/26
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I agree with Nick Saban about saving college sports. College athletics especially in the U.S. (NCAA system) play a major role in developing Olympic athletes. College sports act as a primary training pipeline for Olympic talent. In the U.S., a large majority of Olympians have college sports backgrounds. Colleges provide elite coaching, advanced training facilities. and regular high-level competition. This helps athletes reach Olympic-level performance. If Olympic sports disappear at colleges, the U.S. could lose its competitive edge globally.

However, Saban is also hypocritical because he made hundreds of millions of dollars with an inherent advantage that reduced parity. He retired after his 17th season in 2023 at Alabama because he knew that the new NIL and transfer portal would reduce his inherent advantage. I hope congress can pass a law that provides some guardrails before NCAA athletics collapses.
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1:27p, 6/5/26
AMEN, Nick!!!
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