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Today was a really bad day of college football

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Sure we lost and that sucks. That's not what this is about.

ESPN and college football have a problem. Today was the most boring day of college football I can remember. All of today's games were bad.

Texas A&M v. Miami - 10-3 - defensive struggle. This one's a bit of an anomaly. It would've been better if this had been a night game. but really it just was bad luck that it was a boring game today because of the offenses inability to move the ball.

Ole Miss blows out Tulane

Oregon blows out JMU

College football has historically been great because of amazing matchups. What we saw today was bad football. If you put enough bad product out, people will turn off their televisions and stop watching. I'm typing this now because I didn't watch the second half of the Oregon versus JMU game.

We gave up Bedlam for this. We gave up the Apple Cup. We gave up Nebraska vs. Oklahoma and Nebraska vs. Colorado. We gave up the Civil War between Oregon and Oregon State. We gave up the Pack 12. I'm sure there are other rivalries. I can't think of right now.

My point is I think they're playing with fire. They better get this fixed or they're gonna start having problems with viewership. viewership is what's been driving this whole thing because of the big TV money if you lose that then you got problems.
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It's ok. At the amazing rate of change, in another 2-3 years, you won't recognize college football.
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TX_COWDOC said:

It's ok. At the amazing rate of change, in another 2-3 years, you won't recognize college football.


That's what I am worried about.
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Can't argue with OP. The game is in decline...maybe gone forever. Kids only want the $$$, don't care who they play for and really don't care whether they win or lose...same goes for those who make the rules. Favors given to the so-called 'Blue Bloods' and there really shouldn't be any. To the point of being "rigged" IMHO. Kids are bought and sold like pure bred cattle.
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A crap ton of the right folks will make money, and that's all that really matters.
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TX_COWDOC said:

It's ok. At the amazing rate of change, in another 2-3 years, you won't recognize college football.


I hope I don't recognize Aggie football because all I recognize is a failure to deliver when it matters
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My fear is that expansion will be their attempted solution.
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BTHOB-98 said:

Sure we lost and that sucks. That's not what this is about.


You'd not write the rest of this post had we won today. So yeah that is what this is about.

ive been resistant to the big changes in the sport over the last 4 years… but it is a lot of fun. And yeah it's different, but it's interesting.

and I'd take the playoff 100 times out of 100 over having all the second rate rivalries you've mentioned back. They weren't bad… but the point is all of the big rivalries folks really care about have all remained in tact.
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Burn it all down.
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The only thing that can save college football is tiers with regulation and promotion. Separate by revenue generated to start.

Imagine a bowl game that decides promotion. Much more interesting than the current veterans bowl.
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Oregon is not blowing out JMU.

JMU actually looks better than other teams that played earlier around 11AM.
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whatthehey78 said:

Can't argue with OP. The game is in decline...maybe gone forever. Kids only want the $$$, don't care who they play for and really don't care whether they win or lose...same goes for those who make the rules. Favors given to the so-called 'Blue Bloods' and there really shouldn't be any. To the point of being "rigged" IMHO. Kids are bought and sold like pure bred cattle.

In the last 60 years, only CU and BYU have won national championships via the AP or BCS system that have never won one before or since. The other 18 teams that have won the other 58 titles all have won multiple titles, either during that time or had won ones previously (Pitt, Tenner, and Auburn). So basically, 15 brands have run the sport for the last 60 years. It's a sport in need of new bloodIndiana or Oregon or Tech are ones that stand out for this. But it's almost assuredly going to be Ohio State or Georgiaagain.
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I have a longer complaint about it (and society in general), but I think college football is somehow actually more popular than ever.

The simplest solution to bad matchups is to make the playoff the best 12 teams (or at least have the conference champions have to be a top 15 team to qualify), but it doesn't solve the cultural rot of everything.
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I think you're wrong. This sport isn't that much fun to follow any more.
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The solution is to eliminate recruiting. Make your team from who shows up at your college or university. They won't do it, but that's the solution.
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whatthehey78 said:

Can't argue with OP. The game is in decline...


You can say there is a lot in college football currently you don't like, I'll agree with you.
But the game is not in decline.
It's actually more popular than ever before.
More people attend and watch college football now than ever before and it grows every year.
It's far from " in decline"
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DWren said:

whatthehey78 said:

Can't argue with OP. The game is in decline...


You can say there is a lot in college football currently you don't like, I'll agree with you.
But the game is not in decline.
It's actually more popular than ever before.
More people attend and watch college football now than ever before and it grows every year.
It's far from " in decline"

More = rise in population. The games gone to crap. College ball = NFL little league and everybody knows it.
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BTHOB-98 said:

Sure we lost and that sucks. That's not what this is about.

ESPN and college football have a problem. Today was the most boring day of college football I can remember. All of today's games were bad.

Texas A&M v. Miami - 10-3 - defensive struggle. This one's a bit of an anomaly. It would've been better if this had been a night game. but really it just was bad luck that it was a boring game today because of the offenses inability to move the ball.

Ole Miss blows out Tulane

Oregon blows out JMU

College football has historically been great because of amazing matchups. What we saw today was bad football. If you put enough bad product out, people will turn off their televisions and stop watching. I'm typing this now because I didn't watch the second half of the Oregon versus JMU game.

We gave up Bedlam for this. We gave up the Apple Cup. We gave up Nebraska vs. Oklahoma and Nebraska vs. Colorado. We gave up the Civil War between Oregon and Oregon State. We gave up the Pack 12. I'm sure there are other rivalries. I can't think of right now.

My point is I think they're playing with fire. They better get this fixed or they're gonna start having problems with viewership. viewership is what's been driving this whole thing because of the big TV money if you lose that then you got problems.


OP this is nothing new. Since the playoffs started, very few games have been good close games, most have been blowouts not worth watching, including the title games.

Expanding the playoffs does nothing but add more teams that don't belong.
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Quote:

Ole Miss blows out Tulane

Oregon blows out JMU

Almost as if a couple of the selected teams didn't belong in the Top 12, eh?
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Capitalism killed college football
DallasAg 94
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It cost $300 just to get into Kyle Field on the 2ndary market. At 104k fans... that's well over $30M. And fans wilfully paid for Chicken Wraps and Beer.

It was almost $500 for most of the week.

The CB will be a sellout. It was $350 just to get in, which has dropped since the Afs didn't win.

The CFP Committee is making money hand over fist... players like Craver are making millions.

Oregon, Ole Miss, and Okie ALL had huge turnout. More so than in Bowls of the past. The next round of Games in the CFP will be huge money generators, as well.

Your money speaks more than your crying.
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Cheo said:

Capitalism killed college football


If only we could have kept the SWC. Rice, TCU, SMU, Baylor... LaTech, an FCS team... getting blown out in a deteriorating, outdoor Cotton Bowl with freezing rain. Now that is how college Football was meant to be.
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This thread wouldn't exist had the OP watched the Catz v Grizz game. It was outstanding.
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There is no guardrail mechanism when the entire point is to maximize profit no matter the cost. Of course they don't care about the fans. As long as the tv contracts, sponsors are happy and the top cashes in, who cares about everything else. The only guardrail is fans boycotting games but that won't happen. Vicious cycle. Wouldn't surprise if they expand further to cash in.
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Cheo said:

There is no guardrail mechanism when the entire point is to maximize profit no matter the cost. Of course they don't care about the fans. As long as the tv contracts, sponsors are happy and the top cashes in, who cares about everything else. The only guardrail is fans boycotting games but that won't happen. Vicious cycle. Wouldn't surprise if they expand further to cash in.


This!
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jja79 said:

I think you're wrong. This sport isn't that much fun to follow any more.


you wouldn't be a Premium subscriber and prolific poster on it if college football were actually no fun to you. Another example of something you'd never post had we won yesterday.
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ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED????

Many of us remember a time when we might have sold our soul to the devil to be able to watch our team on TV every week. Over time we got our wish........but the entertainment industry drives the bus for the sport now, not the fans..

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Lone Stranger said:

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED????

Many of us remember a time when we might have sold our soul to the devil to be able to watch our team on TV every week. Over time we got our wish........but the entertainment industry drives the bus for the sport now, not the fans..




True. But I'd point out the 'sell our soul to the devil' desire for every game to be on TV followed by every game being on TV is the cause of the entertainment industry driving the bus rather than just the effect.
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TX_COWDOC said:

It's ok. At the amazing rate of change, in another 2-3 years, you won't recognize college football.


You mean minor league football?
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Cheo said:

There is no guardrail mechanism when the entire point is to maximize profit no matter the cost. Of course they don't care about the fans. As long as the tv contracts, sponsors are happy and the top cashes in, who cares about everything else. The only guardrail is fans boycotting games but that won't happen. Vicious cycle. Wouldn't surprise if they expand further to cash in.


I agree with this. I think the problem that the deciders are missing is that as they take the drama out of college football and it just becomes the biggest teams with the most money they're going to lose what made college football so great and that's when revenue is gonna start slowing down. What I was saying that I think a lot of people on here missed is that sure the revenue is up right now but that changes as time goes on in the parody in college football gets removed.

If you want an example of this in sports, you can look at the 90s NBA compared to today. Numbers are way down from where they were when the game was a lot better. They tried to offset it by reaching out to other demographics and trying to take it global, but in the end, it's all about the quality of the game, which is currently lacking.
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BTHOB-98 said:

Cheo said:

There is no guardrail mechanism when the entire point is to maximize profit no matter the cost. Of course they don't care about the fans. As long as the tv contracts, sponsors are happy and the top cashes in, who cares about everything else. The only guardrail is fans boycotting games but that won't happen. Vicious cycle. Wouldn't surprise if they expand further to cash in.


I agree with this. I think the problem that the deciders are missing is that as they take the drama out of college football and it just becomes the biggest teams with the most money they're going to lose what made college football so great and that's when revenue is gonna start slowing down. What I was saying that I think a lot of people on here missed is that sure the revenue is up right now but that changes as time goes on in the parody in college football gets removed.

If you want an example of this in sports, you can look at the 90s NBA compared to today. Numbers are way down from where they were when the game was a lot better. They tried to offset it by reaching out to other demographics and trying to take it global, but in the end, it's all about the quality of the game, which is currently lacking.


lol. What are you even talking about?

Salaries, franchise valuation, revenue and pretty much any metric to measure growth are exponentially higher in the NBA relative to the 90's.
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I was not a fan of the ridiculous number of crappy bowl games. However, I greatly appreciated a couple of days in January that had meaningful and interesting bowl games over Saturday.
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Semi-final and championship games past few years have been excellent in my opinion.

I expect the same in the coming weeks.
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It's absolutely less fun than it used to be. There's no connection to the players any longer. I watch it but the loss didn't hurt or affect me like it would have before it became a professional sport.
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