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NFXAg09
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Help me out here... I keep seeing media, etc. posting about how unfair it is that the committee didn't penalize Bama for losing their CCG, but they did penalize BYU. Obviously BYU was 11, already below the two remaining conf champ autobids... they had to win to get in... how did they get penalized??? Is it because Miami jumped them and got in over Notre Dame? That just feels like the committee correcting what they had wrong previously... just wish they'd come out and say it.

Anyway... can someone help me understand how BYU got penalized for losing their CCG?
BenTheGoodAg
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You're not missing anything. The committee is inconsistent. Always has been.
agent-maroon
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Cuz the only team they played that was worth a crap beat them by at least 3 scores both times?
Iraq2xVeteran
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BYU dropped to 11-2, but both losses were to Texas Tech by a combined score of 63-14.
wangus12
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OSU dropped 1 spot for their close loss. BYU dropped 1 spot for their bad loss. Bama dropped no spots for their bad loss where they had negative rushing yards. They should have dropped to 10 at least.

I agree with the teams that are in the playoffs, but Bama getting no punishment while all the other CCG losers did is dumb
AGDAD14
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No three loss teams or teams that lose to the same team twice should be deemed worthy of a national championship.
tandy miller
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Iraq2xVeteran said:

BYU dropped to 11-2, but both losses were to Texas Tech by a combined score of 63-14.


Thanks Grok!
NFXAg09
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Yep, get all that... I'm saying I keep seeing people make a point that they were treated unfairly compared to Bama in terms of the impacts of their CCG result. How were they treated unfairly.... they were already out unless they won...
Sterling82
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wangus12 said:

OSU dropped 1 spot for their close loss. BYU dropped 1 spot for their bad loss. Bama dropped no spots for their bad loss where they had negative rushing yards. They should have dropped to 10 at least.

I agree with the teams that are in the playoffs, but Bama getting no punishment while all the other CCG lovers did is dumb

Agree. BYU should have never been close in the first place. They always should have been below Vandy and tu.
NFXAg09
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Sterling82 said:

wangus12 said:

OSU dropped 1 spot for their close loss. BYU dropped 1 spot for their bad loss. Bama dropped no spots for their bad loss where they had negative rushing yards. They should have dropped to 10 at least.

I agree with the teams that are in the playoffs, but Bama getting no punishment while all the other CCG lovers did is dumb

Agree. BYU should have never been close in the first place. They always should have been below Vandy and tu.

Yeah, this I can get. I'm surprised they didn't drop to 10.
94chem
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BYU, UNT, and UVA all played in the round of 32 yesterday and lost. Pretty simple.

Remind me again, which one of those teams is better than Vandy, Notre Dame, or Texas?
GrapevineAg
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So did Bama and OSU, but yet they aren't out.

Edited: not saying Bama anc tOSU should be out, just saying it's not a round of 32 if some losers are in while others are out. That's just flawed logic.
Gnome Sayin
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I struggled to find a good win for tceh, byu or Utah. I'm not shedding any tears for a big12 team that's missing out
94chem
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GrapevineAg said:

So did Bama and OSU, but yet they aren't out.

Edited: not saying Bama anc tOSU should be out, just saying it's not a round of 32 if some losers are in while others are out. That's just flawed logic.


Call it whatever you want. Those 3 teams went into yesterday having to win 5 in a row. They knew it. Everybody knew it. Irrelevant if they drop one place or 20. Out is out.

As far as shoving BYU between ND and Miami, just stupid. But still irrelevant for BYU. Fortunately TTU is so much better than BYU that we don't have to see 2 bids from the BDF.
94chem
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Gnome Sayin said:

I struggled to find a good win for tceh, byu or Utah. I'm not shedding any tears for a big12 team that's missing out


Yeah, they don't have any. Tech is being rewarded for bludgeoning teams they should bludgeon. They are the classic 12 seed from a mid-major. Might actually be better than the 5 seed, but you have no way of knowing until they play somebody.
Jarrin Jay
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BYU is getting treated accordingly for being a team about as good as Kentucky that played a JV schedule…..
kevmiller
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BYU lost both games to Tech.
Bama split with Georgia winning in Athens, arguably the best win of the regular season in all of college football.

Lets say Bama had beat Florida State, but lost in Athens in the regualr season and then everything else played out exactly the same way it did, I dont belive Bama is in the playoff if thats the scenario
Emilio Fantastico
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Bama also wouldn't have been in the SECCG if they had lost to Uga because they would've been 6-2 in SEC.
TexAg2019
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I'll lay it out how I think it shook out:

1. Committee breezes through setting seeds 1-8.

2. Committee gets to #9 and slots ND in that spot and Bama in #10 based on Bama getting stomped.

3. Committee starts packing up their things and is ready to leave their conference room when someone shouts "Wait! We left the ACC out of the playoff!" (which they of course didn't realize because they don't watch the games and didn't see Duke win).

4. Committee brainstorms ideas for hours. The sun starts to come up. They are delirious.

5. Someone finally says "Bama's loss wasn't that bad, right? People won't think we're a sham if we just leave them at #9, right?" The committee unanimously agrees.

6. Committee gets to #10 and realizes their only saving grace is slot Miami in at that seed, but don't know how to justify their position. More brainstorming. More delirium. More sunrise. Committee members are mad because they have to pay for a late checkout from the hotel now.

7. Finally, someone says "Four turnovers is worse than negative rushing yards, right? People won't think we're a sham for dropping BYU even though we didn't drop Bama, and then using the head to head to swap ND and Miami even though we refused to consider that during every ranking, right?" The committee unanimously agrees.

8. Committee officially sets Miami as the 10 seed, packs their things and leaves.

9. The time is 10:58 am CT. The final rankings reveal starts in 2 minutes. The committee's PR intern is furiously rewriting Yurachek's script. The intern finally finishes it as ESPN reveals Miami as the 10 seed. It's hot garbage. Yurachek stumbles his way through every question and answers nothing.

Wabs
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Any time you spend on figuring out what the committee was thinking is better spent drinking. Cheers!
Sq 17
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BYU is griping because at 11-1 they were not in and really not in the discussion
And at 11-2 they were really not in the conversation for the last spot

Who?mikejones!
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NFXAg09 said:

Help me out here... I keep seeing media, etc. posting about how unfair it is that the committee didn't penalize Bama for losing their CCG, but they did penalize BYU. Obviously BYU was 11, already below the two remaining conf champ autobids... they had to win to get in... how did they get penalized??? Is it because Miami jumped them and got in over Notre Dame? That just feels like the committee correcting what they had wrong previously... just wish they'd come out and say it.

Anyway... can someone help me understand how BYU got penalized for losing their CCG?


The easiest way to think of it is they wont punish you if they already consider you in.

If youre not in, in their eyes, before the ccg, then they aren't punishing you, you just didn't earn the spot
swc93
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Like me, the committee hadn't actually bothered to watch a BYU game. After seeing them, we all agreed they are absolute garbage and drop kicked them to PopTarts Bowl.
W
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the bottomline here...

just because a team wins 9 or 10 or 11 games...that doesn't mean they are a great team

not sure folks realize how bad the BDF is

cougar high went 9-3 including getting whipped at home by West Virginia (4-8)
Ball Five
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The Coogs easily should have lost to both Oregon State and UCF. Yes, the same Oregon State that was one of the worst teams in the country.l and managed to win only 2 games.
hph6203
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It's as simple as the committee not wanting to cause material harm to a team for participating in the conference title games without a very good reason. Bama beat Georgia once. They got smoked by them once. That doesn't deserve a drop in the rankings. OSU got beat by Indiana, dropping them one spot is justified. BYU is only impacted by a number next to their name, no other consequence exists, because they weren't making the playoff without a win.
MaroonStain
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Probably more close to truth than other realize
Z Team
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Correcting what they got wrong previously is called being influenced by backlash and then changing their criteria like the blowing of the wind. Totally screwed up.
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