24 Team Playoff

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American Conf. 1
ACC 3
Big 12 3
Big 10 6
Conf. USA 1
Mid A 1
Mountain West 1
PAC 0
SEC 6
At Large 2 Likely + Notre Dame + 1

Let each conference determine their qualifiers based on in conference games only. Can make conference championships still mean something.

Throughout the year, this will keep a little bit of interest in the seedings and the two at large teams. Let's talking head still talk.

The committee will only really be involved in the 2 at large selections and the final seedings.

Give a boost in the rankings to the teams that play the harder out of conference schedule - even
if it results in a loss. This will encourage prime cross-conference matchups.

Every conference has a stake and all coaches/players have a very realistic chance of making the playoffs.

Will need to figure a plan to work with the 24 team bracket since it is an unusual number to get down to a final four.

Ok. Have at it.

Where is the Sun Belt. It is a better conference than Conference USA and MAC. Plus PAC is a better conference than MWC now since they took some of their better teams.

24 teams??? Hell naw.

Let's just get to the natural conclusion here and we just have a 136 team bracket for all FBS teams that starts on week 1?

This would never happen, but we should utilize a relegation system.

Reorganize the conferences into 4 that make sense competitively/geographically and divide each into 2 divisions. Relegate and promote between divisions based on performance..

For the playoffs, the top 2 teams from each upper division of each conference go to the playoffs plus 4 at large teams. Or top 3 + 4 at large for a 16 team bracket.

PAC is not a conference - they can only at large along with Notre Dame.

Regarding Sun Belt, can take one at large away and give it to Sun Belt, leaving only 1 at large bid.

This could eventually help push Notre Dame into a conference - even though they would likely be the
at large bid almost every year.

It's gonna increase soon.
I've always said 16 good number.

Eliminate the byes
Same number of weeknds we currently have
Can keep current bowl system we currently have in place
All does is eliminate byes for top 4 and gives 2 rounds of home games.

Agilaw said:

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PAC is not a conference - they can only at large along with Notre Dame.

Regarding Sun Belt, can take one at large away and give it to Sun Belt, leaving only 1 at large bid.

This could eventually help push Notre Dame into a conference - even though they would likely be the
at large bid almost every year.

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The Pac12 will have 8 football members next year
Oregon St, Wash St, Boise St, Fresno St, Colorado St, San Diego St, Texas St & Utah St.

So it's not exactly a good conference, but it will be a conference. Basically, just the Mountain West with a new name.

So w/24, we now have 8 1st round byes.

Who gets those?

The non-power leagues need their own playoff system. Then the 12-team playoff works fine--if conferences get off their asses and either remove the CCGs or decide who is best served to play in that game. For example, the SEC shouldn't penalize UGa for having to play in this game. Make Ole Miss and A&M play, as the two 1-loss SEC teams to get a better spot for the winner. The ACC is the worst here--Miami should be playing Virginia this weekend, not Duke. It's a conference driven decision--nobody else should have a say.

Have to get away from rankings as the determining factor. Too much bias and it discourages good non-conference games.

Why not 50 teams? Is the sport about determining the best team or making sure everyone feels included and nobody gets upset?

DWren said:

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It's gonna increase soon.
I've always said 16 number

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Why on earth should the 16th ranked team get a shot to play for a title? Why should the 12th for that matter?

JWinTX said:

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The non-power leagues need their own playoff system. Then the 12-team playoff works fine--if conferences get off their asses and either remove the CCGs or decide who is best served to play in that game. For example, the SEC shouldn't penalize UGa for having to play in this game. Make Ole Miss and A&M play, as the two 1-loss SEC teams to get a better spot for the winner. The ACC is the worst here--Miami should be playing Virginia this weekend, not Duke. It's a conference driven decision--nobody else should have a say.

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DWren said:

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It's gonna increase soon.
I've always said 16 good number.

Eliminate the byes
Same number of weeknds we currently have
Can keep current bowl system we currently have in place
All does is eliminate byes for top 4 and gives 2 rounds of home games.

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16 had always been the right number. FCS has been doing it for years.

King of the Dairy Queen said:

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DWren said:

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It's gonna increase soon.
I've always said 16 number

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Why on earth should the 16th ranked team get a shot to play for a title? Why should the 12th for that matter?

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Because they are in the top 16 of 130+ teams. Beat #1 and you obviously belong.

Frank Grimes said:

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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DWren said:

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It's gonna increase soon.
I've always said 16 number

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Why on earth should the 16th ranked team get a shot to play for a title? Why should the 12th for that matter?

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Because they are in the top 16 of 130+ teams. Beat #1 and you obviously belong.

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so why are we playing a regular season at all? If youre #16 you have likely 3 losses minimum. But a team the runs the table in a top league has to play you? Nah.

9-24th won't ever win the title. Bump if i'm wrong but I believe it will never happen. All 9-24th are is dog ***t landmines.

Personally i don't think there's ever gonna be a time where going beyond 16 will ever make sense.
And if that happens, you'll be having the same pissing and moaning conversations, it'll just be occurring in how they sort those 17-20 seeds.

12 is fine. Especially if these CCG's are here to stay, then having the top four with a 1st round bye is fine.
I don't know that it's ever going to be realistic to assume that a 13-16 seed would ever win the thing anyway.

If your goal is to make a lot of money, then increase the number of teams in the playoffs.

If your goal is to determine the best team in the country, there only needs to be a max of 8 teams.

No matter the number of playoff teams, there will always be teams who got left out complaining and whining about how the process is unfair.

Need to form a new league of 64 teams. Eight teams in eight conferences. Each team plays everyone in their conference. For the 5 non-conference games, 4 must be played against teams from the eight conferences.

Short version: Eight team playoff of conference champions.
Long version: Sixteen team playoff of conference champions facing runners-up from another conference in the first round.

Schools that don't make the field of 64 can have their own playoff just like FCS, D2, etc.

Frank Grimes said:

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DWren said:

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It's gonna increase soon.
I've always said 16 good number.

Eliminate the byes
Same number of weeknds we currently have
Can keep current bowl system we currently have in place
All does is eliminate byes for top 4 and gives 2 rounds of home games.

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16 had always been the right number. FCS has been doing it for years.

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FCS does a 24 team tournament.

I like Grudens idea of keeping it a 12 team playoff, but have 4 playin games at the same time of championship game week

No auto bids and get rid of the committee and use the BCS (or some other agreed upon computer system of ranking), and then we are fine.

IMO 12 is too many already.

6 or 8 is perfect. 12 is ok.

"Play in games" is a silly talking point just to expand the playoff.

Basically what we have now is the same 4 team playoff with a bunch of "play in games". Seeds 5-12 are all play in games already, for a shot against the 4 teams that secured a spot.

Dumb. Expansion of an already bloated playoff won't improve the sport.

Reduce to 6 teams. Top 4 conference champs + 2 discretionary picks. Teams w/ a head to head loss to a contender to be less preferred.

Strengthens (and uses) the conference championships. Pays to be a winner. Wide enough to account for an odd-man-out situation. Strong OOC games may become beneficial again. You let unworthy / non-competitive teams go play a bowl rather than serving as cannon fodder in an unnecessarily broad and belabored playoff.

The problem with using computers at all is the lack of interconference competition between the P4 schools. The problem is even worsened with Power conference teams play just over 50% of the other schools within conference play.

Play 2-3 weeks of P4 conference vs. P4 conference scattered throughout the season.


Also, get rid of the bowl games in the playoffs (non-championship round). It lessens the value of the regular season.

Get Off My Lawn said:

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Dumb. Expansion of an already bloated playoff won't improve the sport.

Reduce to 6 teams. Top 4 conference champs + 2 discretionary picks. Teams w/ a head to head loss to a contender to be less preferred.

Strengthens (and uses) the conference championships. Pays to be a winner. Wide enough to account for an odd-man-out situation. Strong OOC games may become beneficial again. You let unworthy / non-competitive teams go play a bowl rather than serving as cannon fodder in an unnecessarily broad and belabored playoff.

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Dumb. Any system with 8 or less leaves out the best team in 2012 (like the system that year did).

I vote we dont throw away any more spots on G5 conferences with no talent to compete. 1 is more than they should get

Yep, one step closer to making it basketball where nobody watches until tournament.

Wake me up when playoff starts if there are 24 teams.

Maybe it will reduce some of the shady stuff like moving teams around just to ensure they get in. So laughable.

Get rid of conference championship slots. 12-4=8 best teams…

People will always watch and attend college football. Do you think if only 8 teams made the NCAA tournament, it would increase viewership in the basketball regular season? It would kill it. More participation - not less - is where the playoffs should be headed. With SEC loaded, you can't knock out all but 2-3 teams and say "you weren't top 3 in the SEC so you're out of the playoffs. The likelihood is the next 5 3-4 teams that were in the SEC that were left out are better than 90% of the teams that got in. I think if something isn't done to get more SEC and BIG participation in the playoffs, we could very well see an SEC and BIG break off and have their own playoffs. I don't think that is really good for college football.

Agilaw said:

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People will always watch and attend college football. Do you think if only 8 teams made the NCAA tournament, it would increase viewership in the basketball regular season? It would kill it. More participation - not less - is where the playoffs should be headed. With SEC loaded, you can't knock out all but 2-3 teams and say "you weren't top 3 in the SEC so you're out of the playoffs. The likelihood is the next 5 3-4 teams that were in the SEC that were left out are better than 90% of the teams that got in. I think if something isn't done to get more SEC and BIG participation in the playoffs, we could very well see an SEC and BIG break off and have their own playoffs. I don't think that is really good for college football.

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Football is not basketball, you can't play a different team every day in a tournament.

College football was the best sport. Whatever people are allowing the sport to be turned in to, it's not the same. We're a couple years away from the team being totally divorced from thd university. Just pro teams that license college logos.

Everyone said the wanted the playoff to find the best team. The best team doesnt have 3 or 4 losses. I dont know why college football fans are fighting for conferences and broadcasters to make more money, but here we are- because that's the only reason the playoff expands.

Wabs said:

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24 teams??? Hell naw.

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Why? Do you hate football?

I've never understood how fans would complain about "meaningless" bowl games, but demand meaningless playoff games where you'd basically be counting on injury attrition or poaching to produce an upset.

I used to watch. I watch Aggie games now. I used to watch as much college football as i could because the drama was beyond compare. 1 loss in November could cost you. Watching Ohio State lay an egg was always great. Now it doesn't matter so much. Just not as exciting to me.

Lots of other reasons it isnt as fun as well but expanded playoff is certainly a reason. Expect more expansion as well. My prediction from a few years ago is still that the sport turns completely away from college all together and teams will just be "affiliated" with schools. We can get rid of eligibility, etc. its coming.