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aggies4life
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GarryowenAg
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Whoa
Aggie Dad 26
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Dang. He'll probably still get a statue there at some point. He did a lot for that program
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#Mke
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Sucks that he went out with a home loss to Tulsa.

What a bitter ending to an otherwise very impressive coaching career at Oklahoma State.
1939
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There is no point in firing him right now.
Hank the Grifter
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1939 said:

There is no point in firing him right now.

UCLA, VT, are already in the market. Florida will be. Arkansas will be. There will be others as well.
Okie Lite wants to get ahead of the game as much as possible.
4
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That guy can coach.

Do not want him at Florida.
PyriteAg
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4 said:

That guy can coach.

Do not want him at Florida.

He's refusing to catch up with the NIL/Portal environment. Similar thing is happening to Clemson also.
Luigi Vampa
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CALL YOUR SHOT: Gundy takes over at Arkansas, and keeps Petrino on staff. They aim to score 60+ per game, defense be damned.
Padre_Island_Ag
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Okie lite made a big mistake in handling his dismissal in this manner.

I think they'll regret it.
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Luigi Vampa
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PyriteAg said:

4 said:

That guy can coach.

Do not want him at Florida.

He's refusing to catch up with the NIL/Portal environment. Similar thing is happening to Clemson also.

Not sure if this is a fair assessment or if it's simply that he does not have the NIL resources to compete there.
4
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PyriteAg said:

4 said:

That guy can coach.

Do not want him at Florida.

He's refusing to catch up with the NIL/Portal environment. Similar thing is happening to Clemson also.

I think some of that has been a cover for the fact that he didn't have the money to do it at osu.

He ends up at a school like florida, he's going to have plenty of money to do exactly that
Buford T. Justice
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Malzahn
The Sun
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Klein to OSU, Gundy to OC here?
Hill08
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I think it's coaching suicide if you take a job with little to no NIL. You can't compete
amercer
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He's a man. He's 58.

You lose a little on the fastball after 40.
StinkyPinky
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Whats his pronoun?
JWinTX
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I can see Gundy being completely done with big time college coaching, even at 58. He hated NIL and the portal, just like almost every old school coach in any revenue sport.

He was a great coach there, no doubt. Beat bigger programs often with less talent. He always reminded me of a younger Mike Leach. And just like Leach, he had a ceiling that wasn't national champion caliber, but could get you highly ranked at the end of a season.

There's no reason OSU shouldn't be able to compete very well in the Big 12. If Tech, Iowa State, and K-State can do well in that league, so can they. That conference is easily the most balanced league in the country, if for nothing else, from a resource/facility/recruiting level. They are almost universally equal. Nothing like the other three leagues where there are CLEARLY higher programs in charge of the leagues, both on the field and on the recruiting front.
The Banned
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OSU has plenty of money to compete with their Big 12 counterparts. They are one of the richest programs remaining in that league.... and he went 0-9 last year. 1-11 in his last 12 games. He simply lost the team.

Anyone thinking the any team in the Big 12 has the NIL to compete for a national title is delusional. The Big 12 is a stepping stone for up and coming coaches. It really always has been that way outside of the teams that have left.
JWinTX
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The Banned said:

OSU has plenty of money to compete with their Big 12 counterparts. They are one of the richest programs remaining in that league.... and he went 0-9 last year. 1-11 in his last 12 games. He simply lost the team.

Anyone thinking the any team in the Big 12 has the NIL to compete for a national title is delusional. The Big 12 is a stepping stone for up and coming coaches. It really always has been that way outside of the teams that have left.

Agreed. Unless the coach wanted to remain at that school out of loyalty, it's always been a steppingstone league. Surprised that Matt Campbell at Iowa State has stayed there for as long as he has. He's kind of the exception to that rule. I would guess that some B1G school will hire him away soon--he seems like he'd be a great fit at a place like Michigan State or Purdue.
Duckhook
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1939 said:

There is no point in firing him right now.

It's a different environment now. You need to get ahead of the off-season coaching carousel. A 30-day portal window now opens for OSU players and you would rather manage that through the rest of the season than manage a large outflow of players at the end of the season. Gotta start managing NIL money for next year. And, they might have been afraid that Gundy would coach up a decent finish to the year and they would be stuck with him for another year. Not to mention he's 1-11 in his last 12 games. In this situation, hanging on to him for the next 2 months had more downside than upside. This is going to be more common going forward I imagine. He's the third this year already.
AlexNguyen
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Gundy seemed burned out to me. 20 years is a long time to stay in one job and one spot and for sure it didn't seem like he liked having to re-recruit his players every year. OSU has made him very wealthy. Just go enjoy it, Coach.
tk111
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I can remember a few of us talking about how epic the I'm a man press conference was while in a calculus class in Blocker the day after it happened. 2007 was a long damn time ago. I think its safe to say he had a tenure as a HC that just about any other coach in the country would take without blinking if offered
TyperWoods
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It's a shame it ended like that for him there, after he had been loyal for many years.
AlexNguyen
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JWinTX said:

Agreed. Unless the coach wanted to remain at that school out of loyalty, it's always been a steppingstone league. Surprised that Matt Campbell at Iowa State has stayed there for as long as he has. He's kind of the exception to that rule. I would guess that some B1G school will hire him away soon--he seems like he'd be a great fit at a place like Michigan State or Purdue.


Would either be an upgrade over Iowa State? I suppose MSU has money and low expectations. Iowans seem to be patient and loyal fan bases. I would think twice before giving that up for a ghost upgrade.
The Zookeeper
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StinkyPinky said:

Whats his pronoun?

Anyone who wears NewsMax gear dgaf about pronouns.
Wake me up when next year is finally THIS year.
DevilD77
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SEC Shorts prediction comes true!
sam callahan
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He's refusing to catch up with the NIL/Portal environment.


Refusing to? Or not able to since T Boone died?
South Platte
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The Banned said:

The Big 12 is a stepping stone for up and coming coaches. It really always has been that way outside of the teams that have left.

I don't follow this at all. Gundy was successful and stayed. So did Leach, Briles, Matt Campbell, Snyder, Patterson, even Gary Pinkel.

The Big 12 is a victim of population, demographics/proximity of talent, and ESPN revenue distribution. Going forward it's going to have a pretty dismal existence, but it had a good run for 30 years until NIL and ESPN permanently eff'd up college football.
The Banned
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AlexNguyen said:

JWinTX said:

Agreed. Unless the coach wanted to remain at that school out of loyalty, it's always been a steppingstone league. Surprised that Matt Campbell at Iowa State has stayed there for as long as he has. He's kind of the exception to that rule. I would guess that some B1G school will hire him away soon--he seems like he'd be a great fit at a place like Michigan State or Purdue.


Would either be an upgrade over Iowa State? I suppose MSU has money and low expectations. Iowans seem to be patient and loyal fan bases. I would think twice before giving that up for a ghost upgrade.

MSU is a step up for sure, as the state of Michigan can handle two decent to good teams. Purdue (and Northwestern) are in a tough spot, despite random bouts of success. It's the equivalent of MSST or Vandy. They aren't in states that can really support two Power 2 teams with local talent, and don't have the name to go out of state for talent.

Auburn/Alabama is the one outlier of small states with two quality teams, and that's because they both branded themselves well back in the day, and that brand has lasted.
The Banned
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South Platte said:

The Banned said:

The Big 12 is a stepping stone for up and coming coaches. It really always has been that way outside of the teams that have left.

I don't follow this at all. Gundy was successful and stayed. So did Leach, Briles, Matt Campbell, Snyder, Patterson, even Gary Pinkel.

The Big 12 is a victim of population, demographics/proximity of talent, and ESPN revenue distribution. Going forward it's going to have a pretty dismal existence, but it had a good run for 30 years until NIL and ESPN permanently eff'd up college football.

Sure, each of those guys had success and stayed around. But can we agree that any sort of National Title chances they had were propped up by the idea the league was on par with the other leagues, and as such, their league champ should be seen as a credible contender?

The Big 12 hasn't won a title since 2005. Has only competed in 2 since then, one of which is a team now in the SEC and the other of which was never a competition (65-7). If the media hadn't tried to prop the Big 12 up as much as they did, would those coaches still have stayed?
The Banned
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sam callahan said:

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He's refusing to catch up with the NIL/Portal environment.


Refusing to? Or not able to since T Boone died?

OSU has top 3 athletic revenue in their conference. If their Big 12 competition can use NIL, Gundy could have too. He's on record of how much he didn't want to.
AgLA06
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

Dang. He'll probably still get a statue there at some point. He did a lot for that program

20 years as a head coach at a power 5 team with a blue blood in state rival. Pretty dang impressive.
JWinTX
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The Banned said:

AlexNguyen said:

JWinTX said:

Agreed. Unless the coach wanted to remain at that school out of loyalty, it's always been a steppingstone league. Surprised that Matt Campbell at Iowa State has stayed there for as long as he has. He's kind of the exception to that rule. I would guess that some B1G school will hire him away soon--he seems like he'd be a great fit at a place like Michigan State or Purdue.


Would either be an upgrade over Iowa State? I suppose MSU has money and low expectations. Iowans seem to be patient and loyal fan bases. I would think twice before giving that up for a ghost upgrade.

MSU is a step up for sure, as the state of Michigan can handle two decent to good teams. Purdue (and Northwestern) are in a tough spot, despite random bouts of success. It's the equivalent of MSST or Vandy. They aren't in states that can really support two Power 2 teams with local talent, and don't have the name to go out of state for talent.

Auburn/Alabama is the one outlier of small states with two quality teams, and that's because they both branded themselves well back in the day, and that brand has lasted.

This.

I put Purdue down as a possible place just because they would have more money due to the B1G's TV money. But Michigan State is the Midwestern version of Texas A&M. Giant school with a huge following and lots of money, but rarely can get over Michigan, Ohio State, or Penn State when any of them are really good. Will overpay for ANY success, then have to figure out a way to end up paying for it when it blows up.
Ag in ATL
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South Platte said:

The Banned said:

The Big 12 is a stepping stone for up and coming coaches. It really always has been that way outside of the teams that have left.

I don't follow this at all. Gundy was successful and stayed. So did Leach, Briles, Matt Campbell, Snyder, Patterson, even Gary Pinkel.

The Big 12 is a victim of population, demographics/proximity of talent, and ESPN revenue distribution. Going forward it's going to have a pretty dismal existence, but it had a good run for 30 years until NIL and ESPN permanently eff'd up college football.

I suspect there's disappointment from not joining blowu in the SEC that's not helping matters any.
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