Don't get me wrong, Wisconsin can't block him illegally like that, but the NCAA statement makes it seem like kids can leave for another school whenever they want

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The lawyer for Xavier Lucas says the ex-Wisconsin player is transferring to Miami, even though the cornerback's former school never entered his name into the portal.

Darren Heitner has been representing Lucas, who indicated on social media last month that Wisconsin was refusing to put his name in the portal and that it was hindering his ability to talk to other schools. Lucas had announced earlier in December that he planned to enter the portal.

The NCAA issued a statement Friday saying that "NCAA rules do not prevent a student-athlete from unenrolling from an institution, enrolling at a new institution and competing immediately."

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wangus12 said:

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Don't get me wrong, Wisconsin can't block him illegally like that, but the NCAA statement makes it seem like kids can leave for another school whenever they want

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The lawyer for Xavier Lucas says the ex-Wisconsin player is transferring to Miami, even though the cornerback's former school never entered his name into the portal.

Darren Heitner has been representing Lucas, who indicated on social media last month that Wisconsin was refusing to put his name in the portal and that it was hindering his ability to talk to other schools. Lucas had announced earlier in December that he planned to enter the portal.

The NCAA issued a statement Friday saying that "NCAA rules do not prevent a student-athlete from unenrolling from an institution, enrolling at a new institution and competing immediately."

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Kids could always leave for another school whenever they wanted. It's just previously NCAA rules allowed year(s) from their lives to be stolen if they had the temerity to do so.

Regardless this seems to be a link addressing the quoted material:
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/more-colleges/2025/01/17/fridays-college-football-ex-wisconsin-db-wasnt-in-portal-but-says-hes-transferring-anyway/77789052007/

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Friday's college football: Ex-Wisconsin DB wasn't in portal but says he's transferring anyway
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Yahoo and the Wisconsin State Journal have reported that Lucas had entered into an agreement to continue playing for Wisconsin before requesting the transfer.

Heitner said in an X post that Lucas had agreed to a memorandum of understanding that was conditioned on the approval of the House settlement which calls for schools to pay players directly for use of their name, image and likeness and Lucas attending classes no later than this spring. Heitner added that Lucas has since unenrolled from Wisconsin.
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Heitner also said that Lucas hasn't received any money from Wisconsin and therefore owes no money to the school.

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At the end of the day fans of the big schools just want to make sure once they've nabbed players they're not allowed to freely transfer elsewhere without penalties that would otherwise prevent them from freely transferring elsewhere. It kind of upsets the caste system.

Can the language about enrolling at a new school mean a player could enroll in early January and compete in they playoffs for the new school?

It's just a giant, and lucrative, game of musical chairs.

Agreed, the problem is there's always another school out there that keeps the music going. Until that stops, players will keep doing what they're doing. Schools are belly aching about it but they are also perpetuating it

This is the NCAA forcing Congress to step in which they plan to.

There is already legislation on the way to address this after Trump is inaugurated although I haven't seen what's in the bill.

But you have to assume contracts are coming.

This link shows a draft from a couple years ago. It shows the basic parameters of what likely gets done:

https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sen-cruz-releases-discussion-draft-of-bill-to-codify-nil-rights-for-athletes-provide-legal-certainty-for-college-athletics


Prohibits Universities, Conferences, and Athletic Associations from restricting the NIL rights (or right to representation) of student-athletes, unless a student-athlete's NIL agreement conflicts or violates a university student code of conduct.

Creates a standard form contract for NIL agreements that requires an NIL agreement to be in writing and contain key contract terms and the signature of all parties in order for the NIL agreement to be valid.

Modifies the Sports Agent Responsibility Act to require third parties (like sports agents) to protect student athletes by requiring any third party (I.e., sports agents) seeking to represent a student-athlete to:
Disclose if they are registered with an athletic association, and
If not registered with an athletic association, to obtain the written consent from the student-athlete (or parent of a student-athlete) that acknowledges the third party is not registered with an athletic association.

Allows athletic associations or conferences to enforce recruiting, transfer, and eligibility rules.

Allows athletic associations to create a public database used to help student athletes and third parties determine the fair market value of NIL services based on anonymized NIL data from institutions.

Provides a safe harbor from legal liability for institutions, conferences, and athletic associations that fully comply with this Act.

Preempts state and local laws that conflict with this Act or that governs or regulates the compensation, employment status, eligibility of student-athletes, including any provision that governs commercial use of NIL for student-athletes.

Clarifies that student-athletes shall not be considered an employee of an Institution, Conference, or Association

Theres a Spirit said:

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Agreed, the problem is there's always another school out there that keeps the music going. Until that stops, players will keep doing what they're doing. Schools are belly aching about it but they are also perpetuating it

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Because there are no legal guard rails to prevent it.

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I want to see both teams swap sides, in their entirety, at halftime. Peel off one jersey and put on the other. Everyone would then have played for the winner and the loser in the same game.

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That won't happen, but something not far from it will happen and will be the train wreck that finally derails this steaming turd into the town square to fill everyone's nostrils until they are sick of smelling it.

It will be glorious.

The only thing lift to decide will be if college football survives it.

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I want to see both teams swap sides, in their entirety, at halftime. Peel off one jersey and put on the other. Everyone would then have played for the winner and the loser in the same game.

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Reminds me of the old Bum Phillips quote.

Woulda been entertaining to see Fran get blown out both halves.

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Kids could always leave for another school whenever they wanted. It's just previously NCAA rules allowed year(s) from their lives to be stolen if they had the temerity to do so.

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Kids could always transfer, it just meant that if they didn't honor their commitment they had accountability with regard to their eligibility to compete.

Shame that consequences for actions has become so commonly accepted as "stealing a year of life."

Probably an unpopular opinion but that's how I feel.

It really is at the point, at least for me, where it's just put whatever the team is on the field and let's go win

It's becoming a waste of time to even follow rosters a d recruiting anymore

Panama Red said:

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This link shows a draft from a couple years ago. It shows the basic parameters of what likely gets done:

https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sen-cruz-releases-discussion-draft-of-bill-to-codify-nil-rights-for-athletes-provide-legal-certainty-for-college-athletics


Prohibits Universities, Conferences, and Athletic Associations from restricting the NIL rights (or right to representation) of student-athletes, unless a student-athlete's NIL agreement conflicts or violates a university student code of conduct.

Creates a standard form contract for NIL agreements that requires an NIL agreement to be in writing and contain key contract terms and the signature of all parties in order for the NIL agreement to be valid.

Modifies the Sports Agent Responsibility Act to require third parties (like sports agents) to protect student athletes by requiring any third party (I.e., sports agents) seeking to represent a student-athlete to:
Disclose if they are registered with an athletic association, and
If not registered with an athletic association, to obtain the written consent from the student-athlete (or parent of a student-athlete) that acknowledges the third party is not registered with an athletic association.

Allows athletic associations or conferences to enforce recruiting, transfer, and eligibility rules.

Allows athletic associations to create a public database used to help student athletes and third parties determine the fair market value of NIL services based on anonymized NIL data from institutions.

Provides a safe harbor from legal liability for institutions, conferences, and athletic associations that fully comply with this Act.

Preempts state and local laws that conflict with this Act or that governs or regulates the compensation, employment status, eligibility of student-athletes, including any provision that governs commercial use of NIL for student-athletes.

Clarifies that student-athletes shall not be considered an employee of an Institution, Conference, or Association

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They need a collective bargaining agreement with student athletes. And they need to void Title IX.

Portal doesn't matter, commitments don't mater. With how things currently stand, not sure why each player and coach isn't paid for just said season.

Welcome to collegiate athletics. Where everything is made up and the rules don't matter.

Rossticus said:

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Welcome to collegiate athletics. Where everything is made up and the rules don't matter.

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Just like calls against teams playing the KC Chiefs.

In a statement, Wisconsin suggests that it will pursue legal recourse related to DB Xavier Lucas, who signed a rev-share deal with UW and then left for Miami.

UW says it has "credible information indicating" that Miami tampered with him.

A landmark case in college sports. https://t.co/lponlrzvfF pic.twitter.com/ZBjxy5U53N

— Ross Dellenger (@RossDellenger) January 18, 2025

What?! The University of Miami would never do anything shady.

I assumed every school did this. Some just better than others when it comes to keeping the school clean.

Kind of like politicians and escorts.

Temerity!

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Kids could always leave for another school whenever they wanted. It's just previously NCAA rules allowed year(s) from their lives to be stolen if they had the temerity to do so.

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Kids could always transfer, it just meant that if they didn't honor their commitment they had accountability with regard to their eligibility to compete.

Shame that consequences for actions has become so commonly accepted as "stealing a year of life."

Probably an unpopular opinion but that's how I feel.

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Scholarships were year to year commitments, and schools could trapdoor the players without having to not field a team for a year or two if they did so.

Coaches could bail with impunity given their better gig paid the buyout for the stepping stone school. They also didn't have to sit in timeout for 1-2 years.

The only ones who were caught in a bear trap were the 18 year olds. Should they decide it wasn't working for them then they had to take a1-2 year hiatus from their craft, which meant they largely were stuck with whichever school initially bagged them.

It was a sweet deal for the schools and coaches. Now it's a pretty sweet deal for the players too, what with the schools soon to be coughing up 8 figures per year, NIL, and the ability to seek a better situation if desired without having to sit in a penalty box for 1-2 years.

I can see how that kind of agency for the talent would be galling.

Ya know, who cares anymore and WTF does it matter? Real College football died a few years ago.