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Coaches Should Not Consider Any Player As Entrenched

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Maroon Flash
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Hope Coaches completely disregard which players they may piss off when they NIL "hire" guys to come in to compete.

Team loyalty to players needs to be zero because team isn't getting any loyalty in return, current case in point is Noah Thomas in the portal.

And if a player isn't earning his NIL, Elko should call them into office to tell them to hit the portal.

If we continue to be "nice" we will continue to be mediocre at best.
Maroon Flash
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I'm sure this is news to the coaches...

Who also aren't entrenched
BCR
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Elko doesn't control the NIL.
Maroon Flash
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"I'm sure this is news to the coaches"

Wut? Who was brought in to compete for the QB job this portal season? And wasn't Weigmann anointed as the starter only to go up in a puff of smoke?

And if Elko isn't controlling who is prioritized and who should be shown the door, he should be fired today.
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BCR said:

Elko doesn't control the NIL.
That is the illusion. There's no doubt in my mind however that coaches are in fact in communications with their collectives with input on which players get what offers.
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Of course they are.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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Maroon Flash said:

Hope Coaches completely disregard which players they may piss off when they NIL "hire" guys to come in to compete.

Team loyalty to players needs to be zero because team isn't getting any loyalty in return, current case in point is Noah Thomas in the portal.

And if a player isn't earning his NIL, Elko should call them into office to tell them to hit the portal.

If we continue to be "nice" we will continue to be mediocre at best.


i can unequivocally agree with the loyalty statement. there is zero. u bring in a person to push starters every year. if ur starter wants to leave then he wasn't going to lead u to the promise land anyways. whether at qb, rb, safety doesn't matter. i think this will be the most difficult hurdle for at least our fan base to accept. we are to loyal to a fault. it's our culture. but if we want to truly compete that's the only way we will get there.
MaroonRevival
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It's basically about the best team you can buy. The pay being equal, it probably becomes about the town and the night life you can offer. Perhaps who provides the best path to the NFL. But there is a minuscule percentage who commit somewhere because "they love the school or the culture." Those days are gone…if they ever existed at all.
Owlagdad
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Lol. I'd hate to be a coach these days. Even in HS- where your stud hoss can be gone the next week, and UIL, like NCAA does nothing more than collect money. The state champion running back on his 4th high school? One guy like Bussey can make you a state champion at the AAA and lower level. And if he is gone before two a days, you gotta change plans. And if you lose after he is gone, school board fires your ass, cause everyone is mad, but don't know who to be mad at, but the coach.
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Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

Maroon Flash said:

Hope Coaches completely disregard which players they may piss off when they NIL "hire" guys to come in to compete.

Team loyalty to players needs to be zero because team isn't getting any loyalty in return, current case in point is Noah Thomas in the portal.

And if a player isn't earning his NIL, Elko should call them into office to tell them to hit the portal.

If we continue to be "nice" we will continue to be mediocre at best.


i can unequivocally agree with the loyalty statement. there is zero. u bring in a person to push starters every year. if ur starter wants to leave then he wasn't going to lead u to the promise land anyways. whether at qb, rb, safety doesn't matter. i think this will be the most difficult hurdle for at least our fan base to accept. we are to loyal to a fault. it's our culture. but if we want to truly compete that's the only way we will get there.


Thing is, our coaches probably thought Noah was one of our best wrs even with the portal additions, so that's why they provably stopped at only 3

I guess they could have added a 4th but they probably thought Noah was better than anyone else they could add so they didn't

Then Noah goes into the portal

I don't envy the position coaches have been put in because of nil and the portal
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Maroon Flash said:

Hope Coaches completely disregard which players they may piss off when they NIL "hire" guys to come in to compete.

Team loyalty to players needs to be zero because team isn't getting any loyalty in return, current case in point is Noah Thomas in the portal.

And if a player isn't earning his NIL, Elko should call them into office to tell them to hit the portal.

If we continue to be "nice" we will continue to be mediocre at best.
So…which NIL does Elko control? Does he violate clear rules, Texas law and broad contract law based on state and federal statutory code reinforcing common law? Do you recommend we move immediately to ginokete contract anarchy? Stop paying Jimbo-level anarchy?

That's just idiotic. But let's refresh:

1. Name, Image, and Likeness belongs to the athlete not the school.
2. True sponsorship contracts benefit the business that writes the agreement with the student athlete using arms-length negotiation presumably in good will with representation by the athlete if he or she chooses to involve representation. The school has zero right to participate other than to review at time of disclosure that is required by Texas statutory code.
3. A collective organizes funding and might actually execute contract with student athletes and typically is more closely aligned with a school, but those contracts are still contracts and likely terminate when the student chooses to leave but state law disallows performance in the field as a direct contract performance measure. And coercion usually is viewed poorly by courts when a contract is breached.
4. The new payments by schools as NIL are definitely a new beast but they are specifically to allow the school to compensate student athletes for use of the student athletes intellectual property which includes name, image, and likeness. The $20+ million annually is a continuation of the $2+ billion being recommended as part of a SETTLEMENT to continuing aggravated infraction of federal anti-trust law which the cases that are being grouped together for settlement prove the NCAA did just in the tune since 2016. But plaintiff counsel goal is to take down roughly 50% of revenue similar to the top-level pro leagues for any money sports meaning football and men's basketball today.

So OP recommends further aggravating all areas of agreements that would further violate NCAA rules, a hard-fight settlement that isn't in place yet, state law written to benefit Texas A&M specifically, and federal anti-trust law?

Are you really that dumb or just trolling???
merch
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To be fair, is there a single player that is in this position? Maybe Moss and our punter?
Nothing looks more foolish than tradition to those who have none.
Maroon Flash
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Play nice, be mediocre.
Maroon Flash
Aggie Dad 26
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4 said:

I'm sure this is news to the coaches...

Who also aren't entrenched


Many of these texagers would do well in China or Russia
Aggie Dad 26
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MaroonRevival said:

It's basically about the best team you can buy. The pay being equal, it probably becomes about the town and the night life you can offer. Perhaps who provides the best path to the NFL. But there is a minuscule percentage who commit somewhere because "they love the school or the culture." Those days are gone…if they ever existed at all.


It's been that way forever but it's now "legal

Sincerely,
Nicholas Lou Saban, Jr
Maroon Flash
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"I can unequivocally agree with the loyalty statement. there is zero. u bring in a person to push starters every year. if ur starter wants to leave then he wasn't going to lead u to the promise land anyways. whether at qb, rb, safety doesn't matter. i think this will be the most difficult hurdle for at least our fan base to accept. we are to loyal to a fault. it's our culture. but if we want to truly compete that's the only way we will get there."

Well put. USCe brought in Air Noland to compete with Lanorris Peter's. No knock on Reed but who did we bring in to compete with him? Bringing in competition is not disloyalty and if any player-employees are not willing to fight for a job, they aren't going to be big winners anyway.
Maroon Flash
one safe place
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Use them while you got them, use them up if you need to.
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