Abolish the NCAA

NIL has a brighter future than the NCAA.

infinity ag said:

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The only way is to scrap everything and go back to college kids not getting paid.
I was never for uncontrolled NIL and TP. It is a sheetshow now.

These days I don't feel like our players are "a team". It just a bunch of players. Same with all teams. They are there for the season and could be gone the next. Like the pros. NCAA destroyed college football.

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The only way to do that is to do away with tv contracts and large budgets. People are paying for recruits that help win because it brings fame to their school. If there is no fame, there is no paying for recruits. At least not anywhere near the level we're seeing now.

For example, no one is paying the big bucks to get rock star question riders, archers, swimmers, etc. Donors' ROI
is the feel goods, and it's hard to get those when the general public doesn't give a crap.

More lawsuits coming up.

Mike Leach had an elegant and simple solution to this problem that complies with law:

Each football team gets X number of mercenaries. (Aka super scholarship). If you are a merc, you get treated like the development leagues for the other pro teams, have a contract, etc. you must commit as a merc just as you would a school. NCAA handles that mess. The other 95% of the team is old school student athletes just like before NIL - which is allowed, but deposited into a trust until you exit. Those student athletes are committed to the school and not the football program, and can only transfer out based on the old rules.


Outside of that, the only other real play the NCAA has (that they won't take) is to officially decline to manage the sport of football and allow a different governing body to step in. This honestly would be the best solution based on the massive $ difference between football and basically everything else. It also allows title 9 to come back to sanity, granting all the other men's sports (soccer, hockey, etc) a chance to actually exist.


But then again, this was long, and on page 3, so no one will read it.

I get the intention but you can not limit how much players make from being themselves. If you suddenly pull a JFF and had been making 100k but are then worth 10MM, you don't get capped there until next year because the NIL has gone to other players

zb008 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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No limit.

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Enjoy tu dominance then.

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we can generate as much money as the sips

The days of 18-22 year old young men fighting and clawing for an education, and to honor the alma mater and fight song are long gone.

Today the goal is money.
Its how much you can entice a high school kid with 4 or 5 stars attached to his name.
What type of NIL is going to be available for this recruit to play football at the highest level?
The SEC is big business. Big business means big NIL payments for the most talented of football players.

What type of television deals are involved for the players?
Is there a loaner system of vehicles for starters and star players?
What car dealerships will be loaning these cars to the players?

Who pays for the transportation and lodging of 5 star recruits families during home games?
What type of recreation facilities do the recruits and players have to unwind after a long day of studying?

In order to compete for Atlanta this is the level of commitment that the school, fans, and the local BCS community has to be willing to chip in. This is the level of dedication that it takes to have a football team that the University can be proud of.

If you look at the schools left in the Final Four you will notice a common theme. They all take football very seriously.

SA-AG72 said:

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More lawsuits coming up.

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This.

Putting a cap on NIL seems Sherman Act problematic.

Also since there is no CBA, a cap on direct payments.

How about prove there is an actual value behind a player's N, I, and L.

Is that for individual players, or is that the entire team?

Question for those of y'all that pay more attention to NIL than I do (that's everybody).

What is the current % of money that is coming from universities and collectives as opposed to actual NIL deals (those that many have compared to None, etc).

My gut is that it is a very high % of university and collective as compared to companies that are actually using the NIL of the player to benefit their business (like the local dirtball attorney here in SA that has Ewers in all his commercials).

That being the real situation on the ground, would a cap on University and collectives actually have an impact or would the money just get redirected for bogus NIL deals in the private sector?

You can cap revenue sharing.


NIL will never be capped because it's every players right per the courts

Never-mind capping NIL is an admission that NIL is just pay for play and not true name image and likeness

AggieDruggist89 said:

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for a final approval this april.

Does it level the playing field?

Absolutely not. It just goes back to the old "cheating" ways in addition to the NIL money.

This helps the old cheaters and the NCAA. Nothing more. NCAA can now go and grasp back some old power of recruiting violation investigations. And tu likes will get a way and we will get caught.

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People need to understand this:


A player can make as much money as they fxcking want to. Period. And a third party can pay them as much as they fxcking want to. Period.


Anyone who wants that to change, will lose in court. Period.

AggieDruggist89 said:

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for a final approval this april.

Does it level the playing field?

Absolutely not. It just goes back to the old "cheating" ways in addition to the NIL money.

This helps the old cheaters and the NCAA. Nothing more. NCAA can now go and grasp back some old power of recruiting violation investigations. And tu likes will get a way and we will get caught.

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There will always be a Greg Hill-like player taking money to do nothing...even with no marketable image or likeness.

Putting a cap on it just invites the non-blue blood teams to get penalized for having any success over the blue blood programs.

NIL is a legal issue...it doesn't matter what "rules" the NCAA creates, they can't enforce them over laws that grant players the right to do whatever they want with their image.

SABUILDERAG said:

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Question for those of y'all that pay more attention to NIL than I do (that's everybody).

What is the current % of money that is coming from universities and collectives as opposed to actual NIL deals (those that many have compared to None, etc).

My gut is that it is a very high % of university and collective as compared to companies that are actually using the NIL of the player to benefit their business (like the local dirtball attorney here in SA that has Ewers in all his commercials).

That being the real situation on the ground, would a cap on University and collectives actually have an impact or would the money just get redirected for bogus NIL deals in the private sector?

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The collectives are basically fan driven NIL, and the universities don't fund it. So from universities 0% (apart from the previously sweet deal of not charging the athletes for the privilege of making a lot of money for the school) and collectives/3rd party NIL 100%.

The collectives vs. 3rd party NIL breakdown isn't publicly disclosed per school (or even in general), but I suspect for most schools it's mainly the fan fueled collectives in lieu of Dr. Pepper commercials and Lamborghini leases.

The "cap" on the university would be up from the usual 0% to $23 million per year in revenue sharing according to recent articles. I imagine universities are going to importune their fans for that too.