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Any highlight reels of curious tu calls over the years?

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Onionman
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In reply to Casual Cynic • 9:41a, 1/2/25
Casual Cynic said:
Helmet to helmet contact is not targeting. Targeting is lowering the helmet to launch into another player like a missile.
If what Taafe did was targeting then you could call targeting on every play and there'd be no games because every single player would be ejected for targeting. College football happens fast.
Wow, you have no clue what the rule is....

Targeting is defined as either a forcible hit with the crown of the defender's helmet, or a forcible hit (with any part of the body) in the head or neck area of a defenseless player.

I mean the guy that got hit in the head was almost knocked out from the hit to the head. It was clear targeting.
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In reply to agent-maroon • 9:41a, 1/2/25
Not saying these guys are experts but the morning radio show The Ticket, called the targeting against the Texas receive more serious.
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In reply to classof92 • 9:42a, 1/2/25
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classof92 said:
Well then ESPN disagrees with you. They were talking about it on the morning show. As they said, let the players determine the game.

Final penalty stats for the game were as follows
Texas 10 - 67
ASU 6 - 50
Let me guess. The ESPN talking heads were discussing how the bad calls really went both ways, and therefore Texas really deserved to win. I'm shocked.
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9:46a, 1/2/25
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It's much easier to find threads about Ags obsessing over bad UT calls than actual bad UT calls. 99% of this is pure jealousy. Every TexAgs poster would kill to see A&M advancing to the CFP semifinals under a cloud of officiating complaints.
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In reply to Nelson Wilbury • 9:47a, 1/2/25
Their point was that the game was equally called. In all actuality, Texas had more penalty yards.
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In reply to classof92 • 9:47a, 1/2/25
classof92 said:
Their point was that the game was equally called. In all actuality, Texas had more penalty yards.
What was Scott Van Pelt's point then?
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In reply to Roman Empire • 9:49a, 1/2/25
Roman Empire said:
It's much easier to find threads about Ags obsessing over bad UT calls than actual bad UT calls. 99% of this is pure jealousy. Every TexAgs poster would kill to see A&M advancing to the CFP semifinals under a cloud of officiating complaints.
Give me a break. The entire football world is talking about the missed targeting call.

Should we hide under a rock and ignore all these calls that go in tu's favor?
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In reply to Onionman • 9:49a, 1/2/25
didn't hear his opinion
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In reply to classof92 • 9:51a, 1/2/25
classof92 said:
didn't hears his
Well now you have...

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In reply to Casual Cynic • 9:51a, 1/2/25
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Casual Cynic said:
Helmet to helmet contact is not targeting. Targeting is lowering the helmet to launch into another player like a missile.
If what Taafe did was targeting then you could call targeting on every play and there'd be no games because every single player would be ejected for targeting. College football happens fast.
Read the rule before you make yourself look like a fool next time. Forceable contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless receiver. That contact can come from helmet, shoulder, forearm, hands, etc. On that play, launching or leading with the crown DON'T MATTER.

You can't go blow up a defenseless receiver (i.e. hasn't established himself as a runner yet), as was the case here by hitting him in the head or neck area with pretty much any part of your upper body whether it was intentional or not. Taafe went high, hit him square in the head while he was defenseless and actually took him out of the game because of it. That's TARGETING by definition of the rule.

You may go now.
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In reply to Onionman • 9:54a, 1/2/25
Everybody has their own opinion. It might have been pay back for this NO call. My take is let the players determine the game. Not the refs.

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In reply to Roman Empire • 9:55a, 1/2/25
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Roman Empire said:
It's much easier to find threads about Ags obsessing over bad UT calls than actual bad UT calls. 99% of this is pure jealousy. Every TexAgs poster would kill to see A&M advancing to the CFP semifinals under a cloud of officiating complaints.


No. We have integrity.
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In reply to classof92 • 9:56a, 1/2/25
That play wasn't even remotely similar.

And you are saying an ASU player gets literally knocked out of the game and that is payback???

I'm done with you get out of here sip.
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In reply to classof92 • 9:56a, 1/2/25
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If the players decided then ASU moves on.
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In reply to TexasRebel • 10:18a, 1/2/25
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I have a suspicion that if an ASU player had delivered a forcible blow to Evers' head as he was sliding after a first down, knocking him out of the game, we would not be hearing any of this "let the players decide" nonsense from this poster.
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In reply to classof92 • 10:22a, 1/2/25
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classof92 said:
Everybody has their own opinion. It might have been pay back for this NO call. My take is let the players determine the game. Not the refs.

Post the slow motion view. Every single time this is posted it's the full speed, zoomed out version for a reason. Go find the slow-mo zoomed in version and it was very clearly shoulder to chest. This view is the most disingenuous bull**** argument I've seen coming from sip fans.
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In reply to aggieRB • 6:43p, 1/2/25
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aggieRB said:
It's a long list
2004 vs Kansas- bogus offensive PI call negates KU 1st down & run out clock & defeat the scumbags.
Mark Mangino goes ballistic post game - says Big 12 rigging the deal puts sips in Rose Bowl


I'd forgotten about that one. Mangino was livid in post game presser
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6:55p, 1/2/25
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Just remember this was a penalty....And that tu defender on asu was not

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In reply to TexasRebel • 6:57p, 1/2/25
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dabo man said:
Their regional-winning run against my hometown Lamar Cardinals in 1984. This "run" got them to the College World Series. I can remember listening to this on the radio when I was 12 yo.



Let us not forget all three Dave Yeast calls in 2008.
My hometown too! LU....Horrible call....
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In reply to Roman Empire • 7:07p, 1/2/25
Roman Empire said:
It's much easier to find threads about Ags obsessing over bad UT calls than actual bad UT calls. 99% of this is pure jealousy. Every TexAgs poster would kill to see A&M advancing to the CFP semifinals under a cloud of officiating complaints.


Careful. The zoo is going to demand you give up your Ag tag if you don't fall in the line with the Texas/ref conspiracy that evidently goes back at least 62 years to 1963. It's like they have a secret, Mason like society behind the scenes controlling refs in college football.
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In reply to classof92 • 7:14p, 1/2/25
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classof92 said:
Well then ESPN disagrees with you. They were talking about it on the morning show. As they said, let the players determine the game.

Final penalty stats for the game were as follows
Texas 10 - 67
ASU 6 - 50


It's not the yards or numbers, it's the timing. IIRC, Tim Donaghy talked about this. You can't call a blatantly bad game, because it's blatantly bad, but you can pick and choose what fouls/penalties you call and when. Need to shave some points or kill a drive? Call the right penalties or ignore them completely and you can make or break a team.
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7:18p, 1/2/25
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Does this really need to be stated:

ESPN = sip

Liken it to MSNBC and democrats
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In reply to aggieRB • 7:19p, 1/2/25
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aggieRB said:
It's a long list
2004 vs Kansas- bogus offensive PI call negates KU 1st down & run out clock & defeat the scumbags.
Mark Mangino goes ballistic post game - says Big 12 rigging the deal puts sips in Rose Bowl


2012 okie state. tu fumbled at the goal line in the fourth. Refs gave them the TD. Review showed they clearly didn't break the plane with control and the ball was out and recovered by osu. Bdf even apologized to osu because it was so bad and cost them the game.
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7:26p, 1/2/25
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This thread is what the younger generation didn't understand about playing them. It is not just the rigged calls but the timing of them. They always sustain a sip drive or kill the opponents. So many phantom PI calls when they need it the most.
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In reply to JaxDad • 7:38p, 1/2/25
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Watched a game when Jackie was coaching. Two obvious bad calls cost us turn overs. Flags were thrown after we got the interceptions. Still won the game but the corruption kept the game close until the 4th. Back then, no replay so paid refs could commit murder basically.
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In reply to CyberWCM • 8:46p, 1/2/25
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CyberWCM said:
Famous "incomplete" call on interception in the 1963 game against tu.

I will never forget this one because it sent tu to the Cotton Bowl to play Navy with Roger Staubach. Navy was going to the Sugar Bowl if the Aggies had beaten tu. Cow beat Navy and won the national championship. The official that made the horrible call went to tu.
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9:09p, 1/2/25
This big play wasn't called targeting either. I always thought it should have been targeting by Texas.


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8:58a, 1/3/25
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How about the ASU field goal that bounced in the endzone over the crossbar. Should have been 3.
"Aggies don't lie, cheat, or steal, nor do they tolerate those who do!" - Aggie Code of Honor
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10:23a, 1/3/25
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dixichkn said:
I'll see your Notre Dame and raise you an Iowa St




From another thread
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4:14a, 1/4/25
How about this one?
I don’t start threads, I end them…
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In reply to Onionman • 5:11a, 1/4/25
Crybabies complain about booth calls that would have changed the outcome of a big game when no flags were thrown on the field.

If this happened to us would we be sitting around complaining that we should have been called for targetting or if we were on the other end of it, would we be saying we got robbed because the BOOTH didn't flag and eject one of the opponent players in a playoff game at the end?

Targetting is the dumbest rule in FB until they can make it consistent. They should make it crown of the helmet, spearing and launching ONLY or get rid of the stupid rule.
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In reply to Philip J Fry • 5:12a, 1/4/25
That game was a major ripoff in favor of the whorns. If I remember right, there were other bad calls or no calls in that Iowa State game to save tu.
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In reply to Thomas_Ag • 11:29a, 1/4/25
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Thomas_Ag said:

If this happened to us would we be sitting around complaining that we should have been called for targetting or if we were on the other end of it, would we be saying we got robbed because the BOOTH didn't flag and eject one of the opponent players in a playoff game at the end?


I wouldn't lose too much sleep trying to figure out out how we'd feel, because this will never happen.
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12:45p, 1/4/25
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When people talk about "letting players decide the game late", it only adds an additional layer of subjectivity to a horribly subjective rule that never gets called consistently. In addition to trying to judge each of the aspects of targeting correctly, it is up to each referees discretion to arbitrarily decide at what point in the game flow they should swallow their whistles? 10 minutes left? 6 minutes left? Game within a touchdown? Game within a field goal? If you put that on the referees it only invites more accusations, because they are left to just decide on their own at what point "to let the players decide the game".
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In reply to Thomas_Ag • 1:11p, 1/4/25
I agree that targeting is probably the worst rule in football the way it is applied. I've seen so many bad calls on this rule. However, it is a rule currently.

And this one play in question was such an easy and obvious call on replay. What gets some people upset on here is that these types of game changing calls always seem to go in tu's favor.

Just like A&M would never be in a game where a penalty was called against them and the penalty gets marked off. Then fans throw things on the field and then the call gets reversed. (Totally & utterly crazy)

There is such obvious tu official favoritism that it is not even funny anymore.
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