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What about this solution for CFB?

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saw em off
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With all the talk about SMU and Indy getting blown out, it might be time to split FBS into two divisions. By school enrollment, let smaller schools and their conferences have their own playoff and national champion while the bigger schools and conferences have theirs. It just seems it would be better balanced that way. A player would still be able to portal wherever he can get picked up. Thoughts?
The Banned
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The B1G and the SEC will split off at some point. I think they just need the ACC to implode first.

Whether or not some schools get left behind is the question. I could easily see schools like northwestern, Indiana, Miss st, Vandy, etc getting left out
Wabs
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Split them by total NIL $ spent. This is professional sports now.
The Lost
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You're right, notre dame doesn't belong and ucf should be kings.

This is idiotic
AngryAG
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SMU can build a better roster than most "big" programs.
Mr. Fingerbottom
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AngryAG said:

SMU can build a better roster than most "big" programs.


How do you figure? They lost to all the "big" programs they played

They got destroyed by the 4th best B1G team
annie88
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Tennessee got blown out too.

It's funny how people aren't being harsh with them.
AGDAD14
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CFP… teams should have to earn, or should I say win, their playoff spot. The rules & criteria should be set prior to the season. The seeding set by a computer based system. No more committee. No more "invites".

The goal is perfection, be a conference champion, and don't lose 25% of your games on the road to a national championship!

Rules:
1. Eligibility…
- FBS team
- team must play an all FBS schedule
- team must play a 12-game regular season schedule, including teams from at least three different conferences (an independent counts as a different conference)

2. Criteria to earn a playoff spot…
- teams that are undefeated qualify for a playoff spot

- teams with one loss must be a conference champion or the team's only loss is in their conference championship game to qualify for a playoff spot

- teams with two losses must be a conference champion to qualify for a playoff spot

(Independents would have to be undefeated to qualify for a playoff spot; teams with more than two losses would not qualify for a playoff spot)

- If no teams qualify for a playoff spot based on the above criteria, then the four highest ranked teams per the computer based system will qualify for a playoff spot.

Each year there could be a different number of teams that qualify. Byes for the highest seed(s) might be necessary in some years.
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saw em off said:

With all the talk about SMU and Indy getting blown out, it might be time to split FBS into two divisions. By school enrollment, let smaller schools and their conferences have their own playoff and national champion while the bigger schools and conferences have theirs. It just seems it would be better balanced that way. A player would still be able to portal wherever he can get picked up. Thoughts?


What's the cutoff? Undergrad enrollment?

USC - 21k
Miami U - 12k
Boston College 9.5k
Notre Dame - 9k
Stanford - 8k
SMU - 7.2k
Duke 6.5k
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jamey
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IMO the loss of viewership could potentially be too big to risk splitting off.

Huge number of CFB fans did not go to a BIG or SEC program, but they went to college and they'll root for their team and follow the whole enchilada of college football and who knows, there team might make the playoffs one day


Tell those fans their team (and the fan themselves by association) is now a lower level, a different league and they may just find another fall hobby.

rootube
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Or do absolutely nothing expand the playoffs to 24-32 teams and accept the fact that blowouts happen all the time.
TAMUallen
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No
jamey
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rootube said:

Or do absolutely nothing expand the playoffs to 24-32 teams and accept the fact that blowouts happen all the time.


I'd be ok with 24 if we seed by order of the quality of the team. Use a power ranking to do so and no seeding bump for conference champs. All that does it push lesser teams higher up in the seeding than makes sense
DonHenley
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Expand to 24 teams and the Aggies can finally make it. Maybe
ccolley68
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Raptor said:

saw em off said:

With all the talk about SMU and Indy getting blown out, it might be time to split FBS into two divisions. By school enrollment, let smaller schools and their conferences have their own playoff and national champion while the bigger schools and conferences have theirs. It just seems it would be better balanced that way. A player would still be able to portal wherever he can get picked up. Thoughts?


What's the cutoff? Undergrad enrollment?

USC - 21k
Miami U - 12k
Boston College 9.5k
Notre Dame - 9k
Stanford - 8k
SMU - 7.2k
Duke 6.5k

Yes, this is a stupid idea. And what, by the small/large school criteria, are we going to promote Texas State (35k undergrads), Houston (37k), North Texas (34k), and UTSA (31k) just because they meet large school criteria? And these are just the Texas schools I can think of.

Wanting to change the format to one that includes us and our peers, but excludes those we see as inferior, is nothing more than Aggies who have been spurned too many times with our poor results, only to watch our 'small school' statemates like SMU and TCU find spots at the table before us. Once we finally get over ourselves and thinking because we are A&M and we are big and we are SEC and we have money that we are superior to schools that do a good job of hiring coaches and evaluating talent, we can maybe finally start to try and right what we have been doing wrong since before the Great War.

Right now, we are the rich kid son of some billionaire who knows nothing of cars but whose dad bought them a Lamborghini, and goes to events with real car guys who work hard for what they have and put in the wrench time, and then when those guys don't want to hang out with is because when they ask to see what's under the hood and we pop the front hatch, we go off and piss in their cheerios because they don't like us.
LincolnBorglum79
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Counting losses only works in the NFL because of balanced scheduling. A 4 loss team could be better than a 1 loss team or even a 2 loss team from the same conference. Make the conferences schedule at least 9 conference games or they don't get any automatic bids. This forces more balance in the scheduling.

I think 16 with no byes or 24 with top 8 getting a bye are way better than the current mess. NCAA basketball works and the same principles can apply to Football. It's better t have some Cinderella teams that lose big than to exclude teams like South Carolina. 8 games per weekend could easily be scheduled like that first week of basketball. It's easy to fix but will they?
VandalayIndustries
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This is the College Football version of Professional Rassling and the Mickey ears determines the slate.

It comes down to political views, money and are you a feel good story.

Mickey will tell us what to think and watch.

RoadkillBBQ
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rootube said:

Or do absolutely nothing expand the playoffs to 24-32 teams and accept the fact that blowouts happen all the time.
Yes, it happens no matter the field size.
Since the beginning of the 4 team playoff, 7 of the 10 National Championship games have been decided by 15+ points.
NyAggie
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We don't need expansion, we need improvement in the selection process and the seeding/matchups

If you want to give teams byes for winning their leagues, that's fine, but the second round matchups should be based on actual playoff ranking instead of seed

So round 2 games this playoff would be:

1. Oregon vs Arizona st
2, Georgia vs Boise at
3. Texas vs Ohio st
5. Penn st vs notre dame

That would reward the 1 seed by giving them the easiest game and so on down the line

Right now the 1 seed gets screwed and the 5 seed s d 6 seed get easy matchups that they should win by double digits

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