The transfer rules were charged before NIL was a thing. They should be able to go where they want and get paid but the they need to sit out a year again when transferring. This musical chairs is crazy.

Jealousy isn't just the color green…

Apples and oranges. Students working part time use that money to help pay for what the athletes get 100% free of charge.

antman8504 said:

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The transfer rules were charged before NIL was a thing. They should be able to go where they want and get paid but the they need to sit out a year again when transferring. This musical chairs is crazy.

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Agreed, and I think coaches should have to sit out a year too when they change schools. How does that sound?

Tango.Mike said:

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TxAg76 said:

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Doc Hayworth said:

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I'm sure it's been discussed before, but IMO, transfer rules need to change to give programs some type of stability.
1) player can transfer with no loss of eligibility to any other team, Once.
2) if player transfers a second time, he sits out and loses a year of eligibility.
Every time they transfer costs them a year of eligibility.

Something like this would definitely slow down guys transferring every year like many are doing,

All based on no coaching change.
Just my .02

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Take it a step further, and weave NIL into it.

1. Give each player a stipend, uniform amount, across the board. Any amount would be more than they were getting before NIL went nuts.

2. All players are wide open to all available NIL opportunities. They can watch it stack up, in an interest bearing account, but they can't touch it until
- they finish their degree, or
- they have a career ending injury, or
- if they go pro early, that's great....give them 5 extra years to still finish their degree. No degree? Sorry, no dollars.

3. Should they transfer away from current school, they forfeit the NIL accumulated while at current school, and they start from scratch at the new school. The forfeited money gets redistributed to players on current team.

4. Coach leaves? If they stay, everything keeps running as typical. But should they transfer out due to coach leaving, they get to take NIL with them.

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Sweet mother of nanny state. You want to tell someone they aren't entitled to the money they earned unless they meet some unrelated goal you think is important?

So if in 2012 JFF entered a legal agreement to do an autograph session at the Chicken, you want a third party with no legal standing in the transaction (the school) to control the money? JFF provided the service he was contracted to do. The Chicken benefited from the increased traffic. Two cognizant parties signed a mutually beneficial agreement. But you want the school, who the SCOTUS said has no authority to intervene, to withhold JFF's earnings until he completes some goal he may have no interest in at all.

This is a special level of govern me harder daddy. Why don't we have the TexAgs withhold your earnings until you sell 4000 boxes of Girl Scout cookies?

ETA: I can't get past how terrible this idea is. Let's have A&M confiscate the paychecks of ever student working part time off campus. If they graduate when a random TA poster wants them to, they get their money. If not, it will be distributed among the students in MATH 141 who had nothing to do with the work performed.

This screams "I hate seeing other people succeed"

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Wow, triggered much? I guess the Politics board will do that to a person....

Nobody would be taking their scholarship away, and nobody would be rescinding that stipend. People act like that's not meaningful or relevant and has very little value, but since you brought them up, go ask your hypothetical student working part time off campus if they'd like their entire education, books, meals, and housing completely paid for while they complete their degree. They'd burst into tears of joy.
But that's not real, is it. We're not gonna see 109,000 people crowd into a stadium to watch your Math 141 students take a test, are we.

We're just talking about the icing here, not the cake.

The players get the opportunity for that icing (in addition to their cake, that other students do NOT get) because they're athletically gifted, and were offered an opportunity to continue playing a game, on one of the country's biggest stages, with a jerzey that's got their name on the back and this school's name on the front.
So you've kinda got a chicken and egg thing going. If they don't get the opportunity to play on this stage, do they get the opportunity to hold your autograph sessions at The Chicken?

While they're at it, so long as they keep their heads on semi-straight, they also walk out with a degree from one of the better academic institutions in this state.
We only put 3 to 4 players into the NFL each year right now, so the overwhelming majority of those 85 scholarship players are gonna get more use out of that degree, long term, than they ever will those cleats.

We're also in the amoeba stages of locker room dissention across the country. Different teams govern it different ways, but you can't tell me there's not rumblings internally when the upperclassmen that's been somewhere a few years and earned his starting spot is making far less $$$ than the incoming hot shot freshman that hasn't played a down of college football yet.

And nobody's limiting their earnings potential, relative to the icing. It just puts some short term guardrails on it, to help protect 18-22 year olds from themselves and each other, while placing heavy emphasis on that degree and it's long term importance. They're still just kids. And not all of them have parents looking out for them, either.

Feel free to have a different opinion though. No worries.
It's not like any of this is gonna happen. It got way too wide open way too early, and i don't think there's any way of getting the toothpaste back in the tube in any form or fashion, no matter what anyone says.

Why are coaches allowed to leave? Why are people allowed to leave their job? It's a free country as it should be. We don't need to create dumb rules because we think roster management is becoming hard. We have well compensated coaches whose job it is to manage all of this. Hopefully our coaches are good at it. All indications are that Elko and his team know how to do this pretty well based on his job last year. Maybe that gives us an advantage. Maybe not, and BMA's have to pass the hat to fire another one. If you want to be mad about something be mad about that financial malfeasance.

I think there needs to be some serious guardrails on the transfer portal

1. If a player transfers for the first time, he does not sit out and retains his eligibility.

2. If a player transfers for the second time, he must sit out and loses a year of eligibility, unless the head coach that recruited them leaves.

3. The transferring player must pay back the unearned portion of their NIL while at their current schools and start from scratch at their new schools.

4. If a player is transferring due a coaching change, they get to take their entire NIL with them.

True to an extent, but the nfl is not like my job. We can't directly compare the two. I don't have a "contract". NFL players do. Among many other differences, such as being on a team sport. And spare me the work is a team. Again, not the same and we both know it.

There is more chaos in college football right now than the nfl. How did we let the collegiate level get more Wild West and chaotic than the professional version, and even have people defend it like this is how it should be?

Lots of Hippocrates here. You know damn sure if someone came into your industry and put in "year sit out" across the board, you would riot.

But when its someone else's money, that's a different story.

Now if a particular company wants to put that stipulation into their contracts, then completely fair game. Find me one college to do this and I will show you one college that will get zero top players.

ahpetty33 said:

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Until the revenue share structure is formally adopted by conferences, any limitation to free movement of players will get soundly beaten down in court

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I am an old school guy too…want less movement. I am for NIL just not colleges paying players. Nothing happens until there is a revenue share system in place.

I hate what NIL and the portal have done to college sports. At this point, it's really pro sports on a lower level. But to stop the craziness, I think the schools and players need to negotiate player contracts. This would create stability. If the governing bodies want competitive sports between universities, then the schools need to have spending caps. Sadly, I think they basically need to copy the NFL model…. maybe have several tiers of spending levels. The "X" number of wealthiest schools could have one cap level and compete with each other, and then have a lower cap level for another tier of universities that compete against each other, and maybe a tier fot universities that don't pay players at all. Idk, but the current system is killing college athletics for me.

Tango.Mike said:

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TxAg76 said:

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Doc Hayworth said:

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I'm sure it's been discussed before, but IMO, transfer rules need to change to give programs some type of stability.
1) player can transfer with no loss of eligibility to any other team, Once.
2) if player transfers a second time, he sits out and loses a year of eligibility.
Every time they transfer costs them a year of eligibility.

Something like this would definitely slow down guys transferring every year like many are doing,

All based on no coaching change.
Just my .02

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Take it a step further, and weave NIL into it.

1. Give each player a stipend, uniform amount, across the board. Any amount would be more than they were getting before NIL went nuts.

2. All players are wide open to all available NIL opportunities. They can watch it stack up, in an interest bearing account, but they can't touch it until
- they finish their degree, or
- they have a career ending injury, or
- if they go pro early, that's great....give them 5 extra years to still finish their degree. No degree? Sorry, no dollars.

3. Should they transfer away from current school, they forfeit the NIL accumulated while at current school, and they start from scratch at the new school. The forfeited money gets redistributed to players on current team.

4. Coach leaves? If they stay, everything keeps running as typical. But should they transfer out due to coach leaving, they get to take NIL with them.

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Sweet mother of nanny state. You want to tell someone they aren't entitled to the money they earned unless they meet some unrelated goal you think is important?

So if in 2012 JFF entered a legal agreement to do an autograph session at the Chicken, you want a third party with no legal standing in the transaction (the school) to control the money? JFF provided the service he was contracted to do. The Chicken benefited from the increased traffic. Two cognizant parties signed a mutually beneficial agreement. But you want the school, who the SCOTUS said has no authority to intervene, to withhold JFF's earnings until he completes some goal he may have no interest in at all.

This is a special level of govern me harder daddy. Why don't we have the TexAgs withhold your earnings until you sell 4000 boxes of Girl Scout cookies?

ETA: I can't get past how terrible this idea is. Let's have A&M confiscate the paychecks of ever student working part time off campus. If they graduate when a random TA poster wants them to, they get their money. If not, it will be distributed among the students in MATH 141 who had nothing to do with the work performed.

This screams "I hate seeing other people succeed"

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He's right except for I doubt the big name players are performing many services at all. Just another vehicle to get them paid.