agracer said:

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My point was a simple roll out and release the TE would have worked. tu was 100% sold to stop the run.

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I know what you meant. I actually said before I even saw the formation play action pass would work here.

But my point was I hated our formation. Even if you want to run the ball, spread everyone out. When we came out in that jumbo package. I was like, oh no.

Aggie_Nuke said:

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While I appreciate all the work you put in to make this post, what I think really needs fixing is our excessive use of the UTMFN (up the middle for nothing [<4 yards]), and the WENY (west-east for no yards) plays.

If we can do UTMFN and WENY and gain at least 4 yards per attempt, I'm a happy camper because we'll make a bundle of first downs. But, what we usually do is run UTMFN and WENY on both 1rst and 2nd downs, with little or no gain, then we're forced into a passing situation.... which rarely works out.

If the coaches checked their data on how successful they've been using the UTMFN and WENY plays, then they wouldn't try it over and over on fourth and short ! If you're going to go for it on 4th and short, then DO NOT run UTMFN or WENY plays; run end around, trick play, sideline pass, etc., instead.

Would love for someone to put together a spreadsheet of all of our UTMFN plays and WENY plays this year (and earlier), how many times we ran them in each game, and the number of yards gained/lossed per play. Maybe if the coaches saw this data, and it shows UTMFN and WENY are NOT successful over a season, then they would not go for it on 4th down; or if they did, they wouldn't use the UTMFN or WENY play.

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LOL - I'm ususally the last person to question a coach's decisions, but you're spot on from my perspective. Elko emphasizes that we really need to get on schedule on 1st down. But I swear it seems like we just go through the motions with an UFMFN or a WENY on 1st & 2nd downs about every time. Elko is more upset about it, than we are, so I'm thinking he's letting the OC call plays.

Kozmozag said:

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Analytics would say, go for it. Didnt work for us .

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What do the analytics say when you're on 2nd/3rd string guards, centers, running backs, and QBs?

Only game I've seen this year with legit ref beef was the SC vs LSU pick 6.

What a pus.

Then you didn't watch the Miami games or the tu Georgia game, or BYU Utah…

Those are just the most egregious ones. It's a known thing that refs have been really bad leading many to discuss having professional refs.

You're late to school and didn't even do your homework. Take a seat, be quiet, and pay attention unless you wanna fail again

OP, thank you for providing a meticulous review of the 4th down plays from all 12 games. After marching to the Texas 10-yard line, we should have kicked the field goal on the first drive to take a 3-0 lead. If we had kicked a field goal on that drive, we would have trailed 17-10 with 4:36 left. Going for the game-tying touchdown would have been the right decision. But since, we failed on our previous 4th down attempt, we should have kicked a filed goal. I understand being aggressive, but coming away with zero points when down 10 points is foolish, especially with just 4:36 left.