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Red flags with Elko.

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ArmyAg97
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Philip J Fry said:

I'll say I like Elko's killer instincts. Going for it in the first quarter was the right move.

The problem with both was the play call.


It's very Dan Campbell esque from a mentality standpoint. He expects the O to be able to convert a 4th and 1 foot, and he sent them out to do it. Didn't work out, but I feel like the mentality is heading in the right direction. And hopefully he has that film playing in the weight room all offseason.
DTX_12
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The main red flags of Elko is that every important game we had this year we lost except maybe LSU
AGDAD14
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Now we know it was Jimbo's defense that was so good!
Aggie2
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EricHill said:

AggieArchitect04 said:

Nothing you said is wrong but this simple fact remains: Elko gets A&M.


Are we that weird that we need someone who "gets us"?
That seems to be the top rated quality.
solishu
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

His coordinator hires. Bateman was a failed defensive coordinator that was back coaching linebackers when he was hired. He may be running an Elko defense, but he isn't Mike Elko. I have a little more sympathy with Elko taking a chance with Klein. He seemed like an up and comer that had shown 2 years of efficient offenses at Kansas State with 2 different offenses that took advantage of his teams strengths. Unfortunately, he changed nothing here. This years offense looked like Jimbo 2.0.

Teams figured something out about us down the stretch and this team could not adjust. That's on Elko.

Recruiting is not at the level of the big dogs. It's a nice class but isn't on par with the elite teams we hope to be on the level with. The o-line recruiting is especially weak.

The regression after the LSU game. I saw a team that was getting better week to week until the LSU game. Afterwards, they looked like a much worse team. They had everything to play for and they looked totally unmotivated. Thats on Elko.

The bad first half's. I know we all love to talk about Elko's halftime adjustments, but why can't we just come out with a good game plan in the first half?



I'm going to hold the line on Elko and Klein. I hate the results from last night and am not at all about "moral victories", but we were one of three teams in the SEC in contention for the championship game last night. That's a better result than DeBoer achieved, than Kiffin achieved, than Heupel achieved, or than Kelly achieved.

I hate to say it, but Texas has shown us the model in Sark. He went 5-7 his first season, and he had all kinds of stink of failure on him from his past. The man had never had success as a head coach before Texas hired him. But they stuck with him and invested in him and supported him instead of imagining that the grass is greener elsewhere and thinking that they could find just one crazy trick to win a championship.

As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out on Klein. He lost his two biggest weapons that he started the season with in Weigman's flameout and Moss's injury. I respect that he is trying to establish an actual identity for this team as a physical, run-first, power football team. It's not his fault that we don't have the personal to credibility threaten downfield or the talent at running back to impose that on the defense. To everyone saying that you just "adjust" -- you can quibble over this or that play call, but whatever it's going to be it's going to be within the boundaries of that identity, and it's probably going to lead to the same results because we don't yet have the personnel to execute on that. If you think we should have tried to make a total shift in our teams identity, you still run into the personnel problem of our QB, receivers, and running backs (after Moss) being mid-shelf or situational at best. If we had had the pre-injury Weigman and a healthy Moss all year, then everyone here would be all over the Klein love train, because I can promise you we would have had a different set of results.

Now where I'll grant the criticism is of Bateman. You could see that the scheme was there in that our players were *frequently* in position to make the play, but the coaching clearly wasn't because they could never get their man to the ground. Look at how much *better* Scooby Williams was for us than he had been for Florida when he was being coached directly by Bateman! It's unfortunate that we couldn't get anyone better last winter. I hope that Elko takes the opportunity to make an upgrade and that the powers that be give him the support to allow him to do so.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

His coordinator hires. Bateman was a failed defensive coordinator that was back coaching linebackers when he was hired. He may be running an Elko defense, but he isn't Mike Elko. I have a little more sympathy with Elko taking a chance with Klein. He seemed like an up and comer that had shown 2 years of efficient offenses at Kansas State with 2 different offenses that took advantage of his teams strengths. Unfortunately, he changed nothing here. This years offense looked like Jimbo 2.0.

Teams figured something out about us down the stretch and this team could not adjust. That's on Elko.



this is the scary thing

A&M got "solved" after the LSU game on both sides of the ball
Double Diamond
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Why can't you use a fullback any more on short yardage?
BigSneezy
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Bring n WOOD said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Bring n WOOD said:

I believe it's way too early to judge this staff…. people forget how hard Elko Worked when he landed here to raid the portal, talk to current players and recruits…..He Frankensteined this team of ours together all in short fashion…. He needs time to work with his staff, players and recruits to build something… I think it's way too early to cut bait on his coordinators at this point in time.


I get giving him time, but I totally disagree with not cutting bait with Bateman and Klein. They are both terrible.


The coordinators call the plays using the players they have at their disposal…..tonight we learned (especially on the line of scrimmage) that Texas had much better talent across the board than we do….i'm not willing to blame the coordinators when we don't have the studs yet….

We need upgrades at RB, WR, LBs the worst….but OL and DL too…. our lineman are big… But they are not fast athletic enough.


Our offense scored ZERO points. It absolutely is on the OC.
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