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Was the WR really covering up the TE?

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NumberEinAg said:

Interesting that Alabama had an amazing TD catch by Ryan Williams called back for a similar reason. For the life of me I can't figure out what was wrong with the formation, but it was a HUGE call against Bama. They still might have lost, but who knows what happens if they count the catch. You can only control what you can control. We have been screwed countless times by the Refs and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it.

I just watched that. That ref should be fired.
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Oh and Ryan Williams is a better WR than Travis Hunter.
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He looked like he was off but it's hard to tell for sure. The rule is your head has to be behind the centers belt line. The bigger issue was Walker signaled to the ref pre-snap that he was on when checking, so regardless of if he was or wasn't the ref now has in his head that Walker is on. Just a huge mental error.
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Edit: seems like for some reason walker checked when he wasn't on. This is probably what got it
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Artorias said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

AgLA06 said:

Interesting this is the talking point and not the phantom offensive pass interference against Auburn that was a gift as well.

I literally made a comment when it happened that we finally got a call where it was so egregious that it appeared the league was actually trying to protect us from our own ineptitude.
Dear lord, that was not a bad call. You can maybe claim it was subjective, but a WR running into a defender downfield and impeding their movement is not allowed. They will let it go if he's actively in route and reasonable measures can't be taken to avoid another player, but not when he runs directly at the opponent, contacts them, and then stops his route. It's a tragedy it's not called a lot more, as it happens multiple times in every single game.
Yeah, there are WAY worse calls multiple times every week across college football. The announcer going on, and on, and on about how it was the MOST HORRIBLE call he had ever seen got old quick. Was it bad? Maybe. Was it THAT bad? No.



I don't even think it was bad. That receiver had nothing but green grass in front of him for a drag across the middle, but instead ran at a defender trying to come across the other direction. And that receiver was never looking for a pass. It was never coming to him. His sole reason for that route was to pick a defender. My guess is that the ref had seen this on a previous play and decided not to let this one go.
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The Banned said:

On the refs overall, I think they were pretty fair in the bad calls. I don't think they were picking on us. I just don't think they were that good

They did miss an obvious defensive holding on the TE as he made his cut on Reed's INT. Without the hold , the TE is there to catch that pass
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Emilio Fantastico said:

The Banned said:

On the refs overall, I think they were pretty fair in the bad calls. I don't think they were picking on us. I just don't think they were that good

They did miss an obvious defensive holding on the TE as he made his cut on Reed's INT. Without the hold , the TE is there to catch that pass
Saw that too. Won't say he for sure makes the catch. But it did seem like Reed was throwing to a spot. Then on replay you see the obvious defensive hold that throws off the timing of the route. If Watson would have sold it more I think he gets the flag. He has a tendency to just awe shucks it.
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The Banned said:

Scotts Tot said:

The offensive PI pick call against them that put them at 2nd and 25 instead of 1st and goal was the highest impact call of the night, and anyone who is being honest has to admit that call was highly suspect.


Idk. Looked to me like their guy intentionally ran out of his route to get in front of our guy. I've never seen a dig/cross route that quickly gets 2 yards deeper in the middle of the field.



This right here...the guy the flag was called on was never meant to be a receiver on that play, his sole job was to get in the way of our defender. He sold it well, how the refs saw that and didn't see all the holding on them I'll never know
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See Bama OU as well. reffing is getting out of hand and you ain't seen nothing yet on ticky tack.

Refs just aren't being held accountable either

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Aggie_Swag18 said:

He looked like he was off but it's hard to tell for sure. The rule is your head has to be behind the centers belt line. The bigger issue was Walker signaled to the ref pre-snap that he was on when checking, so regardless of if he was or wasn't the ref now has in his head that Walker is on. Just a huge mental error.
This is what I cannot figure out. How does the ref know whether the receiver is signaling that -- or asking if -- he is on or off the LOS? Is the "on" signal different from the "off" signal? It always looks the same to me on TV. If it is verbal communication, it would have been pretty loud in there.
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Scotts Tot said:

The offensive PI pick call against them that put them at 2nd and 25 instead of 1st and goal was the highest impact call of the night, and anyone who is being honest has to admit that call was highly suspect.
The one where their player completely alters his route to seek out contact with our DB?
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tjburns said:

They were flagged several times for false start in the 4th quarter...We were called on 7 penalties for 40 yards. Auburn had 9 for 62 yards.

It's called confirmation bias. You think it exists so you find instance to prove your thoughts are true. The fact is we spotted them 21 points in the beginning of the game. There isn't some conspiracy to get us. It's honestly pretty embarrassing when you guys start this whining. In your mind, teams need to conspire with the refs to win. In reality, we are a 1st year team under a new coach with some holes to fill due to injuries/positional whiffs by the last coach.


So how do you explain NO offensive holding calls when we are on D for 30 QUARTERS? BG was the last call we got on D
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