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BigSneezy
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Is it a coincidence that A&Ms and tu schedule align are both weak enough so that only the winner of our game can get in to the playoffs?

I mean if we had to have played Bama and won or Georgia and won we would probably be in even with a loss to Texas assuming only two losses. But both SOS sucks. And they each need the other school or they don't make it in with enough quality wins.


Coincidence? I wonder.
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A&Ms SOS is 21st. That doesn't suck. It's higher than Ole Miss.

Texas SOS is 56. That does suck. It's lower than BYU.

HTH
AggDogg61
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AggieDub04 said:

A&Ms SOS is 21st. That doesn't suck. It's higher than Ole Miss.

Texas SOS is 56. That does suck. It's lower than BYU.

HTH
soleta27
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Well, if we would have won against SC, ND or both the outcome of tu wouldn't have mattered
Sq 17
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After we play our final cupcake what is our SOS, everybody plays 3 cupcakes seems likely our sos will go down and tu will be playing an SEC game that should help there sos

And BDF schools because they play 9 conference games instead of 8 often have higher sos ratings
Also just guessing the difference numerically speaking between 20-30 is very small

Same thing happens with RPI there's a spot in the list that the scores get bunched up you can continue to put them
In numeric order but looking at the underlying value the teams are basically tied
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Did tu's SOS start at 56? Seems like it might have been higher when everyone thought Michigan and Okie were decent.
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sip's SOS is the weakest the SEC has ever seen.

Coincidence?
NowhereMan
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Tin Foil Hat

Why do people get upset about watching what is clearly controlled and scripted.

BYU officiating saved their season.
OH State 20 million dollar payroll
TX 5 million dollar QB room
OR Largest Athletic Apparel company in the world and pulled a shenanigan intentional penalty at OSU
ND - Social promotions despite losing to N IL

CFB is a drama fest not a true sport.

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Smittyfubar said:

Did tu's SOS start at 56? Seems like it might have been higher when everyone thought Michigan and Okie were decent.
Exactly. They weren't "given" a weak schedule. It just turned out that OU and Michigan started sucking this year.
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Yellerjacket said:

Smittyfubar said:

Did tu's SOS start at 56? Seems like it might have been higher when everyone thought Michigan and Okie were decent.
Exactly. They weren't "given" a weak schedule. It just turned out that OU and Michigan started sucking this year.

The majority of the conversation has been on tus entry into the SEC and their weaker conference schedule especially when compared to OU as the other newcomer.


Their first SEC game was against Mississippi State

OU is technically an SEC game but most will agree it's its own thing with a long Big 12 history

Then they finally get a true SEC challenge and it's Georgia at home and they **** the bed

Then they were given the latest first SEC road game in history, Oct 27, against historic bottom feeder Vandy (which was not predicted to be better than OU and michigan).

I know that was kind of confusing to read but no other SEC team has had their first conference road game that late in the season, let alone against that level of opponent

Florida and Kentucky at home......

That leaves Arkansas as one of their toughest games


Their only challenge was always us and Georgia and they got to split that home/away favoring the tougher one at home



Michigan and OU was just icing on the cake, we could go on and on about non-conference too




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OMB100GAS said:

Yellerjacket said:

Smittyfubar said:

Did tu's SOS start at 56? Seems like it might have been higher when everyone thought Michigan and Okie were decent.
Exactly. They weren't "given" a weak schedule. It just turned out that OU and Michigan started sucking this year.

The majority of the conversation has been on tus entry into the SEC and their weaker conference schedule especially when compared to OU as the other newcomer.


Their first SEC game was against Mississippi State

OU is technically an SEC game but most will agree it's its own thing with a long Big 12 history

Then they finally get a true SEC challenge and it's Georgia at home and they **** the bed

Then they were given the latest first SEC road game in history, Oct 27, against historic bottom feeder Vandy (which was not predicted to be better than OU and michigan).

I know that was kind of confusing to read but no other SEC team has had their first conference road game that late in the season, let alone against that level of opponent

Florida and Kentucky at home......

That leaves Arkansas as one of their toughest games


Their only challenge was always us and Georgia and they got to split that home/away favoring the tougher one at home



Michigan and OU was just icing on the cake, we could go on and on about non-conference too







Exactly

Because OU is at a neutral site but was counted as a tu rise game this year, they only had 3 true sec road games so the fact that they even got vs day as one of them is schedule fixing at its finest

Ca do should not have even been in their schedule: they should have had ole miss or Tennessee or even South Carolina as a road game
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This makes no sense.

Neither team's schedule is a problem.

The problem is we've lost 2 games and, if we beat them, they'll have lost 2 games.

How does somebody give a team a schedule so weak while also causing them to pick up multiple losses?
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JDCAG (NOT Colin) said:

This makes no sense.

Neither team's schedule is a problem.

The problem is we've lost 2 games and, if we beat them, they'll have lost 2 games.

How does somebody give a team a schedule so weak while also causing them to pick up multiple losses?


You could give ou the weakest schedule in the sec but their win record would be .500 at best. It's not rocket science.
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Reality:

Georgia >>> LSU both at home

Both avoided: Tenn, Bama, Ole Miss

The rest of the conference are scrubs, SC, Vandy, Flrd, AU, Missouri, Kentucky etc

UM/ND both trash (road v home)

Schedules are incredibly similar with Texas playing the most difficult opponent.

The "Best" team A&M has played is LSU which is the "best" win of the two. They also have two worse losses.

SOS equations are arguing semantics between the two.
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MasonStorm said:

Reality:

Georgia >>> LSU both at home

Both avoided: Tenn, Bama, Ole Miss

The rest of the conference are scrubs, SC, Vandy, Flrd, AU, Missouri, Kentucky etc

UM/ND both trash (road v home)

Schedules are incredibly similar with Texas playing the most difficult opponent.

The "Best" team A&M has played is LSU which is the "best" win of the two. They also have two worse losses.

SOS equations are arguing semantics between the two.


Are you seriously comparing ND (a likely playoff team) and Michigan (a likely .500 record team)???

Playing a mediocre team on the road is not the equivalent of playing a very good team at home.

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Fanatic15...Drs2B! said:

MasonStorm said:

Reality:

Georgia >>> LSU both at home

Both avoided: Tenn, Bama, Ole Miss

The rest of the conference are scrubs, SC, Vandy, Flrd, AU, Missouri, Kentucky etc

UM/ND both trash (road v home)

Schedules are incredibly similar with Texas playing the most difficult opponent.

The "Best" team A&M has played is LSU which is the "best" win of the two. They also have two worse losses.

SOS equations are arguing semantics between the two.


Are you seriously comparing ND (a likely playoff team) and Michigan (a likely .500 record team)???

Playing a mediocre team on the road is not the equivalent of playing a very good team at home.




lol - agree.

Michigan will barely make a bowl. ND will likely be in the playoff. But yeah, totally equal.
AGDAD14
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Truth… unsure of who the starting QB should be, lost our top 2 RBs, no proven playmakers at WR, can't set the edges on defense, secondary is suspect, and tackling is an issue.

Truth is, we should be grateful for we stand, and HOPE for the best.
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NowhereMan said:

CFB is a drama fest not a true sport.
this. It's going to get much worse too.
Tamuco99
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I'll take it a step further...WHEN games are scheduled also matters. There's a reason why t.u.-Arky is at 11 instead of 3:15 or 6:30. I am starting to wonder if when we play sip it won't be a night game. This is the most compelling all-SEC contest that week. Anything other than a night game confirms sip bias
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Everyone knew Michigan was going to take a HUGE step back this year. They had THIRTEEN players drafted. In total, they lost:
- QB
- All-American RB
- All-American OG + 2 other OL
- All-American CB
- Top 2 WR
- Top DL
- 3 LB
- TE
- Head Coach
- Sign Stealer

anyone who thought Michigan was going to be a top-10 team, let alone a top-25 team, was high on crack


20ag07
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Quote:

There's a reason why t.u.-Arky is at 11 instead of 3:15 or 6:30.
You know what that reason is, right?

It's because Tenn/Georgia and LSU/FL are much more interesting games that will draw more viewers. You know that, right?

The majority of SEC teams will only play one road game at night. You know that, right?
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are these SoS comments up to this point or including the remainder of the season?

if it's the remainder of the season then look no further than we play them and they play us. see the point here?
NyAggie
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Johnsy3 said:

Everyone knew Michigan was going to take a HUGE step back this year. They had THIRTEEN players drafted. In total, they lost:
- QB
- All-American RB
- All-American OG + 2 other OL
- All-American CB
- Top 2 WR
- Top DL
- 3 LB
- TE
- Head Coach
- Sign Stealer

anyone who thought Michigan was going to be a top-10 team, let alone a top-25 team, was high on crack






Yep

That program was gutted and is showing this season

Of course the sips would get the worst Michigan team in most posters' lifetimes
Tamuco99
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20ag07 said:

Quote:

There's a reason why t.u.-Arky is at 11 instead of 3:15 or 6:30.
You know what that reason is, right?

It's because Tenn/Georgia and LSU/FL are much more interesting games that will draw more viewers. You know that, right?

The majority of SEC teams will only play one road game at night. You know that, right?
WRONG. Do yourself a favor and check out the schedule for Bama, LSU, Georgia, Tennessee and the Ags (you know, pretty much all of the other SEC title contenders? )

Spoiler alert: All have at least 2 and in multiple cases 3 night road games scheduled so far
Faustus
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It just goes to show how critical a QB is. Michigan will likely have four first round draft picks this coming draft and they're still awful.

This projection from yesterday has Michigan with 4 players in the Top 16 picks.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2025-nfl-mock-draft-first-round-predictions-for-every-team
20ag07
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Not in conference.
Tamuco99
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20ag07 said:

Not in conference.
You may want to check again...
OMB100GAS
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MasonStorm said:

Reality:

Georgia >>> LSU both at home

Both avoided: Tenn, Bama, Ole Miss

The rest of the conference are scrubs, SC, Vandy, Flrd, AU, Missouri, Kentucky etc

UM/ND both trash (road v home)

Schedules are incredibly similar with Texas playing the most difficult opponent.

The "Best" team A&M has played is LSU which is the "best" win of the two. They also have two worse losses.

SOS equations are arguing semantics between the two.

LSU is still in SEC title hunt, Georgia is pretty much eliminated

Rest of the conference aren't scrubs, SC ranked, Missouri highly touted coming into the season, plus we played Florida as our SEC opener on the road when they were healthy while tu gets third string QB at home

ND not trash, UM is bottom 20 in offense

Also incorrect on win/loss quality, check the rankings, Georgia is in between ND and SC

It's not semantics when there is a legitimate index/stat called SOS. clowns gonna clown I guess
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20ag07 said:

Quote:

There's a reason why t.u.-Arky is at 11 instead of 3:15 or 6:30.
You know what that reason is, right?

It's because Tenn/Georgia and LSU/FL are much more interesting games that will draw more viewers. You know that, right?

The majority of SEC teams will only play one road game at night. You know that, right?
You know that's probably not true right? It's also absolutely false when looking at the conference contenders.

So far Georgia, Tennessee, LSU, Kentucky, Alabama, Vandy, and A&M have played or have scheduled multiple night conference road games. That's 7 of 16 and 5 of the 8 teams with 2 conference losses or fewer.

Oklahoma, Mississippi State, Auburn, Ole Miss, and Florida have each played one and there are games with no time announced in that group.

leaves Texas, Missouri, South Carolina, and Arkansas who have not played one and don't have one scheduled. Missouri, South Carolina, and Arkansas will not play a night road conference game this year. Every contender except Ole Miss and Texas will have multiple night road games and Ole Miss will have at least one. Texas is TBD.
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We are having a good year and have a full schedule and are two conference wins from the SEC CCG. What's not to like???
20ag07
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7 out of 16 is NOT a majority.

We all know 11/30 is going to be at night.

And we'll have 2 night home games, and they are only getting one.

There are many less ridiculous things to tinfoil hat about.
AggieDub04
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The 7 of 16 is not final. It could wind up being 8 in which case the majority of teams would not only play one night conference game as you stated. 8 of 16 is not a majority. That's why I said "probably".
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