The two standout performances we've seen from our QBs this year (Weigman vs Mizzou and Reed vs LSU) were when teams prepped and schemed for one of them, and unexpectedly had to face the other.

I know it's generally believed that featuring 2 QBs is not effective, but these guys bring such vastly different skill sets and pose such different threats, why couldn't it work?

Go with whoever is going to get a win. If whoever we start doesn't have it, then get the other guy in and see if things change. Do what it takes to win the ball game.

Reed should be the starter next week, but I don't think we should be afraid to go back to Weigman if he struggles.

Conner will put on a clinic next week. Dude is fire after spending some time on the sideline

I agree OP. If the opponent is good at applying pressure, Reed is the choice. If they don't have good pressure then Connor can stand back and carve them up.

I bet Elko is still kicking himself for not doing what he did last night... in Week 1.

Reed 2/2 for 70
Wiegman 6/18 for 64

Without question. I was at the game, and felt like he didn't have the benefit of knowing his roster well enough at that point to be confident about making the switch. It absolutely would've made the difference against the Irish; lots of people commenting in the stands about it. We didn't play poorly that day, we just had no offensive spark in the 4th.

I totally agree with OP. It seems it would be very challenging to prepare for both of them.

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Reed 2/2 for 70
Wiegman 6/18 for 64

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Things to note

Reed struggles to touch above 200yds passing in a game, and elite QB's will put up at least 270/game. His yardage came from 1 single long throw. He is stupid fast though, and proved it.

Lsu lost because of turnovers and missed field goals, which the Aggies absolutely capitalized on. A bad team wouldn't turn those lsu failures into gold, and The Texas Aggies are clearly a top 10 team.

CW is totally inconsistent. That's a problem.

Our secondary still gets eaten up by a good passing qb.

We have allot to work on, but last night Reed showed that he can step up under pressure, and perform.

Elko isn't afraid to make adjustments on both sides of the ball. That's a sign of a quality coach, and staff that are correctly analyzing the game.

Kyle Fields 12 man had a pronounced impact on the game, and even veteran teams will get shaken up by the noise.

If Reed's passing game comes together, that plus his speed makes him a Heisman contender...but if we rely on running the ball only, and have a 1 dimensional offense, that will make it nearly impossible to beat teams like Georgia, Bama, Ohio, Oregon etc.

We don't need an elite QB. When need an efficient QB who doesn't turn the ball over, can make plays with his feet when needed and passes it well enough to not allow the defense to stack the box

We are a running team. We are demolishing people on the ground and that is our identity.

I wouldn't pack weigman away because we might get a team that can take reed's strengths out of the game and leave us static, just as we're were against ND and the 1st half last night. We might need good weigman again to get to the playoffs

How much Weigman do you need to see in a game to tell if he's "got it" that night or not? IMO the risk is too much. It's a miracle we only trailed by 10 at half, given the yardage disparity.

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We don't need an elite QB. When need an efficient QB who doesn't turn the ball over, can make plays with his feet when needed and passes it well enough to not allow the defense to stack the box

We are a running team. We are demolishing people on the ground and that is our identity.

I wouldn't pack weigman away because we might get a team that can take reed's strengths out of the game and leave us static, just as we're were against ND and the 1st half last night. We might need good weigman again to get to the playoffs

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So is Vandy. They tried running the ball all game long.

We would beat vandy by more than 3, on the road or at home though.

Also I'll edit my post since you focused on a singular word. "Efficient QB's."

I am not a believer in Weigman. That being said, in no way do I put this game and our passing struggles on him.
1. Our OL was getting crushed by 4 down lineman. The minute he took his steps they were on him. No pocket to step into.
2. Nobody was open even when he had time

Conner has more ability to balance the offense and probably takes you further in playoffs.
Reed gives you enough to make SEC championship game

Name them both as starters and use whoever gives us the best chance to succeed. They appear to both be good leaders. Put away ego and play ball.

They run a very different style than we do. They certainly dont have our online which is proving every game to be absolute maulers.

However, if we do get in a situation where our run game is completely shut down and we need to rely on a passing game, wiggy might be the best choice in that situation.

Go with reed from here on our but don't give up on wiggy because he might need to pull a reed before the season is over

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They run a very different style than we do. They certainly dont have our online which is proving every game to be absolute maulers.

However, if we do get in a situation where our run game is completely shut down and we need to rely on a passing game, wiggy might be the best choice in that situation.

Go with reed from here on our but don't give up on wiggy because he might need to pull a reed before the season is over

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I agree with that. Missouri expected Reed and got Weigman.

The swamp kittens expected Weigman and got Reed.

I think that worked in our favor, and the uncertainty will continue to work in our favor.

I've said it many times before, IDC who QB1 is, because I'm rooting for them, but Reed with a dialed in passing arm, and the ability to turn busted plays into TD's or big gains, could be legendary. If Connor had his arm dialed in, he could do the same. Idk where the inconsistency comes from.

Something tells me Weigman still has a game where we need him and he steps up big in him this year. Having said that I think you have to give Reed the start next week.

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They run a very different style than we do. They certainly dont have our online which is proving every game to be absolute maulers.

However, if we do get in a situation where our run game is completely shut down and we need to rely on a passing game, wiggy might be the best choice in that situation.

Go with reed from here on our but don't give up on wiggy because he might need to pull a reed before the season is over

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I agree with that. Missouri expected Reed and got Weigman.

The swamp kittens expected Weigman and got Reed.

I think that worked in our favor, and the uncertainty will continue to work in our favor.

I've said it many times before, IDC who QB1 is, because I'm rooting for them, but Reed with a dialed in passing arm, and the ability to turn busted plays into TD's or big gains, could be legendary. If Connor had his arm dialed in, he could do the same. Idk where the inconsistency comes from.

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Last night wasn't inconsistency as much as it was no time in the pocket. LSU's front 4 are no joke in the pass rush. He only made 2 bad throws.

Ask yourself what Saban would do. That's right, he's going to play the QB that can win.

Pavlas/Bucky. We won games playing both of them. It can work.

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Trigon Jin said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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They run a very different style than we do. They certainly dont have our online which is proving every game to be absolute maulers.

However, if we do get in a situation where our run game is completely shut down and we need to rely on a passing game, wiggy might be the best choice in that situation.

Go with reed from here on our but don't give up on wiggy because he might need to pull a reed before the season is over

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I agree with that. Missouri expected Reed and got Weigman.

The swamp kittens expected Weigman and got Reed.

I think that worked in our favor, and the uncertainty will continue to work in our favor.

I've said it many times before, IDC who QB1 is, because I'm rooting for them, but Reed with a dialed in passing arm, and the ability to turn busted plays into TD's or big gains, could be legendary. If Connor had his arm dialed in, he could do the same. Idk where the inconsistency comes from.

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Last night wasn't inconsistency as much as it was no time in the pocket. LSU's front 4 are no joke in the pass rush. He only made 2 bad throws.

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Rolling that into next week- the chickens have a very good dline and des who gets after the passer.

Hopefully, we can use reed and exploit that aggressiveness

Our situation reminds me a bit of 95 Nebraska. I won't be surprised to see both QBs play a role in wins going forward. But Weigman must step up. I wasn't surprised with LSU's defensive approach last night but apparently Klein was and he was very slow to go to counter measures. Weigman, on the other hand, while he threw some decent passes under duress that weren't caught, must do more under pressure than just take the sack. Elko's characterization of the situation was precisely on point in my opinion.

Almost totally agree with OP...I would only add that I would like to see Henderson again at some point to see where he falls. I understand that CW probably gets the nod due to practice BUT sometimes there is practice QBs and there are gamers. I don't believe CW is a gamer and sometimes that is okay but many times it is not. I love that we have the flexibility to switch QBs but again, would like to see if Henderson can give us the throws that we aren't getting from either QB.

Everyone is enamored with CW's Missouri performance. It was a great game BUT CW had two throws that should have been interceptions but luckily Bussey fought like crazy and played DB instead of receiver and prevented that one and Walker went beast mode and basically took the other one away from the defender for a reception. Who knows what that game would have looked like if those plays went the other way. CW does make some nice plays but repeatedly throws behind or overthrows his receivers (yes, even in the Mizzou game). Last night, he seemed to continue the trend and throwing it really hard every time. The more INTs than TDs is a telling stat. Reed may not have it completely figured out yet but he at least takes care of the ball.

Oh, and for the "WR don't get open" crowd...I call BS! They are open often, QB either doesn't see them or overthrows them in many cases (or they drop it).

So glad for this win! It feels like we might actually be heading somewhere now! Finally!

Weigman was sacked 4 times and hurried countless times. I wouldn't spend too much time bragging about our o-line.

Simple fact is with Weigman we are a simpler offense, easier to scheme against. Reed gives an extra dimension that opens up the playbook. This should not be a hard decision

Reed gives us the best chance to win. End of discussion.

When your Oline struggles to block and your WRs can't get open to save their lives, you need a QB who can run and make plays with their feet.

Are we really sure Reed is not another Manziel or close to him? I'm not.

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Simple fact is with Weigman we are a simpler offense, easier to scheme against. Reed gives an extra dimension that opens up the playbook. This should not be a hard decision

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Arkansas and Bowling Green say otherwise. Bottom line is our offense has looked great when we catch teams off guard and a little pedestrian when they are ready. And that goes for both QBs.

This isn't a clear as some of you want to think.

I agree with OP. I think Weigman still plays a key role for us down the street. Not sure how or when but he's not done yet.

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Simple fact is with Weigman we are a simpler offense, easier to scheme against. Reed gives an extra dimension that opens up the playbook. This should not be a hard decision

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Arkansas and Bowling Green say otherwise. Bottom line is our offense has looked great when we catch teams off guard and a little pedestrian when they are ready. And that goes for both QBs.

This isn't a clear as some of you want to think.

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The only think Reed lacks is more experience. He only gets that by playing. Dude is 4-0. This is easy.

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Artorias said:

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Simple fact is with Weigman we are a simpler offense, easier to scheme against. Reed gives an extra dimension that opens up the playbook. This should not be a hard decision

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Arkansas and Bowling Green say otherwise. Bottom line is our offense has looked great when we catch teams off guard and a little pedestrian when they are ready. And that goes for both QBs.

This isn't a clear as some of you want to think.

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The only think Reed lacks is more experience. He only gets that by playing. Dude is 4-0. This is easy.

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Records are a dumb indicator and shouldn't be a major player. But I agree with experience. The only issue we are very close to history right now and having a QB learning on the job could backfire late in the season.

Like I've said many time since last night. This isnt an easy and there are flaws with both QBs.

Weigman has shown the big lights are too bright for him imho. For whatever reason he struggles in the big games. Reed has earned the start on the field. Weigman can provide a different look if needed

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vander54 said:

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Artorias said:

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Simple fact is with Weigman we are a simpler offense, easier to scheme against. Reed gives an extra dimension that opens up the playbook. This should not be a hard decision

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Arkansas and Bowling Green say otherwise. Bottom line is our offense has looked great when we catch teams off guard and a little pedestrian when they are ready. And that goes for both QBs.

This isn't a clear as some of you want to think.

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The only think Reed lacks is more experience. He only gets that by playing. Dude is 4-0. This is easy.

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Records are a dumb indicator and shouldn't be a major player. But I agree with experience. The only issue we are very close to history right now and having a QB learning on the job could backfire late in the season.

Like I've said many time since last night. This isnt an easy and there are flaws with both QBs.

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And what flaws specifically did you see in Reed last night ?

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I am not a believer in Weigman. That being said, in no way do I put this game and our passing struggles on him.
1. Our OL was getting crushed by 4 down lineman. The minute he took his steps they were on him. No pocket to step into.
2. Nobody was open even when he had time

Conner has more ability to balance the offense and probably takes you further in playoffs.
Reed gives you enough to make SEC championship game

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Moronic take.