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Analysts picking LSU, according to them Nussmeier>Weigman

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agent-maroon
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A mirror has two sides. Don't assume that everybody is talking about the one that reflects
Ghost of Bisbee
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LSU's secondary is very good. If our WRs can't get separation, we may need Marcel to light them up for a couple series on the ground.

Marcel can make this game very interesting if Conner's strengths can't be utilized because of LSU's elite secondary
spherical
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agent-maroon said:

A mirror has two sides. Don't assume that everybody is talking about the one that reflects
austinag1997
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NoahAg said:

Not exactly a hot take. Nussmeier has been really good.


Not so good if he gets moved from his spot.
austinag1997
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halfastros81 said:

What we need is Nussmeir on the turf on his back repeatedly. He is good.


Nuss is not so good if forced to move. We don't have to sack him. Just move him and make him feel uncomfortable. He is prone to mistakes.
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cgillard said:

Conner also needs the WR group to step up like the LSU WR group. Then we can see what happens.


This is the one guy paying attention. Those two deep passes get caught as they should've against MSU and CW is almost 70% (he was low 60s in that "horrible" game anyway) and 300 yards with 2 TDs. Ain't nobody complaining about that. The WR group showed out against Mizzou- got separation and made contested catches. We get that against LSU and I think we win fairly comfortably.
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90ags said:

The Weigman that shows up is predicated on opposing team pass rush success…

ND and Ms St had enough pass rush to get his feet happy and play too fast and not make the reads (felt uncomfy).

McNeese St and Mizzou had no consistent pass rush and he had time to think and react and progress on reads (didn't feel uncomfy)

LSU DL is best we've seen season to date and high probability of creating a pass rush and CW clock will speed up and he will not come off 1st reads.

LSU friends say game plan is simple this wk for them - stuff the run and put some pressure on CW and game is over. They think we are untested and haven't played anyone too difficult yet (vs their sched thus far).

Time will tell.


I don't think the Mississippi State pass rush was there. To me, CW just stared down his WR's. However, Chase going down didn't help things.
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usmcbrooks said:

Artorias said:

We need our DL to get consistent pressure on Nuss or he will pick our weak secondary apart if he has time.



Secondary really isn't that bad, negative Nancy. It's not great but greatness is coming and 5x better than last year. 100% positive you and your buddies would be a hell of a lot worse


Wow, good one. Aside from your weak insults, nobody looks at our secondary and is afraid. They are prone to giving up big plays, which LsU can definitely punish.
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90ags said:

The Weigman that shows up is predicated on opposing team pass rush success…

ND and Ms St had enough pass rush to get his feet happy and play too fast and not make the reads (felt uncomfy).

McNeese St and Mizzou had no consistent pass rush and he had time to think and react and progress on reads (didn't feel uncomfy)

LSU DL is best we've seen season to date and high probability of creating a pass rush and CW clock will speed up and he will not come off 1st reads.

LSU friends say game plan is simple this wk for them - stuff the run and put some pressure on CW and game is over. They think we are untested and haven't played anyone too difficult yet (vs their sched thus far).

Time will tell.


Tell 'em they lost to USC and haven't beaten anyone.
Sq 17
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The Banned said:

I think with enough starts Weigman could be amazing, but something is obviously preventing him from being consistent. Hopefully they can get that ironed out this week
Pretty sure this is his third OC since he got here
Coaching staff continuity helps players maximize their potential
The Jimbo show had to go but you have to accept and overcome the initial setbacks that come with a new staff
Usually the team is such a mess when a coach is fired the growing pains are less noticeable because the team was terrible prior to the change
The fact that Elko has it turned around in year 1 ( 2 sec road wins is all the proof I need ) shows Jimbo was the problem.I hope CW keeps getting better and Klein turns him into an all American next year which is what we are paying Klein to do
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HTownMan87 said:

I've watched multiple analysts say the run games will cancel each other out, and they trust Nussmeier against our defense more than Weigman against LSU defense. Weigman will need to keep his turnovers down if we are going to have a chance to win. Can't force anything. I hope he hears all the doubt and wants to prove them wrong.
That's an interesting take considering we have a top 10% rushing offense as well and LSU is a bottom dweller defense. Anyone saying the run games will cancel out hasn't looked a single stat.

And on the flip side they have a bottom dweller running game, but a great passing game going against our top 30 defense.
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"LSU's secondary is very good. If our WRs can't get separation, we may need Marcel to light them up for a couple series on the ground."

LSU secondary is currently ranked 15th out of 16 in the SEC in Passing Defense, allowing 243 YPG, and 104th nationally in Passing Defense (118th last year). And 92nd in Passing Rating (104th last year).
redjalapeno-87
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"That's an interesting take considering we have a top 10% rushing offense as well and LSU is a bottom dweller defense."

LSU Rushing Defense is ranked higher (33rd) nationally than Texas A&M Rushing Defense (36th) with a delta of 2 yards. LSU currently allowed 9 rushing TDs while A&M allowed 5 TDs. LSU is not a bottom dweller on Rushing Defense, or Sacks, where they are tied for 7th in the nation at 3.43 sacks per game. And they are improving.
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spherical said:

Logos Stick said:

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

we can stop at the running games will cancel each other out. LsU can't run for ***** we have one of the better running games in the sec. that's not a far comparison and if we're smart we will run the ball a lot. the best defense against a good qb is hold the bal for long drives. eat the clock and score.


We are mirror images of each other. They move the ball passing and we do it running.


That's… that's not what mirror means.
Leander - Ag
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Yep. All picking lsu because of CW unknown…
A. G. Pennypacker
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redjalapeno-87 said:

"That's an interesting take considering we have a top 10% rushing offense as well and LSU is a bottom dweller defense."

LSU Rushing Defense is ranked higher (33rd) nationally than Texas A&M Rushing Defense (36th) with a delta of 2 yards. LSU currently allowed 9 rushing TDs while A&M allowed 5 TDs. LSU is not a bottom dweller on Rushing Defense, or Sacks, where they are tied for 7th in the nation at 3.43 sacks per game. And they are improving.

We are actually #13 offense in rush yds/gm

LSU has struggled on defense - especially pass defense (#103), but they did replace their entire defensive staff after last season and are improving week to week. They just held Arkansas to 278 total yds and 38 yds rushing - in Fayetteville (Arkansas had 379 yds of offense, 100 yds rushing when we played them). Turnovers were key - Arkansas committed 3 TO's, LSU had none.
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NoahAg said:

Not exactly a hot take. Nussmeier has been really good.
Has he been REALLY good?

He's played the #80, FBS garbage, #38, #118, #126, #78 and #71 passing defenses in the country.

Against SCw, he threw for 304 yards on 38 attempts with a 76% completion % and threw a pick.

Against SCe, he managed to generate 285 yards on 40 attempts with 60% completion %, was sacked twice and threw a pick.

Against Ole Miss, he threw for 337 yards on 51 attempts with a 43% completion %. He threw two picks in that game

Against Arkansas, he threw for 233 yards on 34 attempts with a 67% completion %. This was the first game against a TOP 100 defense that he didn't throw at least one pick.

Against top 100 passing defenses, he is completing 60% of his pass and has a 7 to 4 TD:INT ratio...

Don't believe that qualifies as really good in my book.

Texas_Ag11
spherical
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CapCityAg89 said:

cgillard said:

Conner also needs the WR group to step up like the LSU WR group. Then we can see what happens.


This is the one guy paying attention. Those two deep passes get caught as they should've against MSU and CW is almost 70% (he was low 60s in that "horrible" game anyway) and 300 yards with 2 TDs. Ain't nobody complaining about that. The WR group showed out against Mizzou- got separation and made contested catches. We get that against LSU and I think we win fairly comfortably.


I'm not worried about missed passes… it's the 2 of 4 to the other team that is of concern…

This is where we live and die by the sword. Reed failed to connect downfield quite a bit but his misses were all safe as he always erred on the side of trying to put the ball where only the receiver could catch it. A few more games worth of snaps and it's gonna click and be magic.
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Honestly, I'm more concerned with the A&M secondary. If they show up and shut down the big plays and get the turnovers, the A&M offense will find ways to score.
If Taylor and Lacy are not contained, CW better be his best!
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spherical said:

CapCityAg89 said:

cgillard said:

Conner also needs the WR group to step up like the LSU WR group. Then we can see what happens.


This is the one guy paying attention. Those two deep passes get caught as they should've against MSU and CW is almost 70% (he was low 60s in that "horrible" game anyway) and 300 yards with 2 TDs. Ain't nobody complaining about that. The WR group showed out against Mizzou- got separation and made contested catches. We get that against LSU and I think we win fairly comfortably.


I'm not worried about missed passes… it's the 2 of 4 to the other team that is of concern…

This is where we live and die by the sword. Reed failed to connect downfield quite a bit but his misses were all safe as he always erred on the side of trying to put the ball where only the receiver could catch it. A few more games worth of snaps and it's gonna click and be magic.



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