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RVHorn said:

Are there no Aggie refs in the world?

It's not a good look blaming everything on the refs. Georgia actually got away with a third targetting foul last night. They got away with some terrible holds, too.

Just part of the game. It evens out.


No. We got real jobs.


Also…. You just let me know when it "evens out".
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Who was the replay official?
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TxAgPreacher said:

RVHorn said:

Are there no Aggie refs in the world?

It's not a good look blaming everything on the refs. Georgia actually got away with a third targetting foul last night. They got away with some terrible holds, too.

Just part of the game. It evens out.


No Aggie ref should ever call an a&m game.

Can you say the same about sip refs?
I don't know that it matters. Aggie paranoia is not a basis for deciding this. You've made a point of knowing all UT refs and assume they are crooked.

I don't make that assumption about UT refs nor would I make it about A&M refs. I doubt that I'd notice an all Aggie ref crew for a Texas game. I don't think people are out to get Texas or keeping them down.

All the ref stuff is just sore losership.

I think the refs made the right call about the PI on Texas. They probably should have penalized Texas for delay of game over the deplorable rain of water bottles on the field. But I don't know the rule about that.
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DGrimesAg92 said:

Who was the replay official?


Wasn't involved.
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Yes, many entire fanbases have gotten together and conspired to see the same crooked officiating benefitting the same team.

Or is it more likely that one fanbase is sticking their heads in the sand because the truth would hurt too much?
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There's really no reason to argue this with the sips invading this board. They are either all in on the lie, or just blinded by the years of special treatment they have always received.

But this whole thing does establish an interesting precedent. Is it worth the $250k for the off chance that a disputed call will be reversed during the stoppage, especially in the 2nd half of such a big game? With the first round of the playoffs being played at campus locations, should the home fans be ready for a call to action?
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SEC do not allow you to reaf at a school to which you graduated in any sport. Howvwer I dont know what other conflicts are considered

Right call under questionable circumstances. Talking to some actual officials they wouldnt be surprised to see some ramifications towards the crew and also some rules clarifed for the future
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Wicked Good Ag said:

SEC do not allow you to reaf at a school to which you graduated in any sport. Howvwer I dont know what other conflicts are considered

Right call under questionable circumstances. Talking to some actual officials they wouldnt be surprised to see some ramifications towards the crew and also some rules clarifed for the future


90%+ of Texas fans did not graduate from Texas.
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"No Aggie ref should ever call an a&m game.

Can you say the same about sip refs?"

There is SEC precedent that a ref who even had a step child attend(ed) a university can not call games involving that school. We need General Welch to notify Sankey that this really needs to be enforced.
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I thought I read where the official said he erred when making the call. How does that come about? He saw something, threw a flag, then later decided he didn't see what he thought he saw?
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These morons are going to get themselves banned.

Stay classy tu.

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one safe place said:

I thought I read where the official said he erred when making the call. How does that come about? He saw something, threw a flag, then later decided he didn't see what he thought he saw?


flags often get waved off after a quick discussion.


NEVER has a flag been waved off after the play clock started rolling for the next play without a challenge or official review… until this game.

PI is not reviewable.
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RVHorn said:

Are there no Aggie refs in the world?

It's not a good look blaming everything on the refs. Georgia actually got away with a third targetting foul last night. They got away with some terrible holds, too.

Just part of the game. It evens out.


Good lord. We're not living on the same planet if you think the calls "even(ed) out".
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5 Dollar Footlong said:

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jt16 said:

Aggie Dad Sip said:

Bill Superman said:

Aggie Dad Sip said:

The most difficult part of that entire scenario was signaling the student section to start throwing stuff on the field to make sure we had enough time to call the booth official to tell him to tell the field official to reverse the call. I wasn't even at the game so I was furiously texting the password to the only Texas student I know, hoping like hell he was still sober and had his phone on him. Thank God he did. Then he used his flashlight on his phone to signal the booth official via Morse code who saw it, radioed down to the head ref, who changed the call. It was exhausting but worth it.
You're giving yourselves way too much credit. Sip is much more of an opportune thief, and that's how it played out yesterday.

It was a call that can't be reviewed/reversed, and a no call on the delay of game by the piss poor students/t shirt fans.

The call can't be officially reviewed via replay, eg the ref going over to the sideline replay monitor and reviewing it. However, the officials have full discretion to discuss it amongst themselves and reverse the call. I don't think peeking at the Godzillatron replay in the stadium violates that rule.


They literally moved the ball and the clock ran before the "review". Only longhorns are trying to justify this reversal. It was a bad call, sure, but so were a couple on the Aggies that extended drives for Miss State where they would have otherwise punted.


This. There was 16 seconds left on the play clock for Georgia, and the refs were in position for the next play when trash was thrown on the field. They stopped and reset the play clock, then had their huddle and changed their minds. It was pathetic.

So if that's true, and I have no reason to believe it's not, is that absolute proof positive that the refs are in Texas' pocket? Or would it be more accurate to assume that rather than being corrupt, the refs were simply incompetent. They absolutely sharted the original call. Wouldn't it be more logical that they screwed up the reversal as well? Occam's Razor is pretty reliable. Conspiracy theories, not so much.

Don't know about conspiracies but it sure is interesting how all these incompetent officials keep losing their competence in ways that seem to benefit the sips a whole bunch of times. And it goes back years:
- vs Kansas (04) and the OPI that wasn't
- vs USC (06) and Vince's knee down
- vs Nebraska (09) and the magic one second
- vs Iowa State (13) and the fumble that was until it wasn't.
and of course the personal foul called by the sip ref super fan against the Aggies.

Those are just some I easily recall. Funny thing is that others probably have more examples of sip benefiting ref incompetence that I'm not remembering.
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fc2112 said:

You guys are miserable.

If you truly think professional football officials bias their calls in favor of certain teams, you're just hopeless.

What a sad way to live.
But that's exactly the problem. They are not professional. They should be. They should be full time, fully paid professional officials who have to answer for every egregious call. And the fact that they are not is what has led to all these issues.
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fc2112 said:

You guys are miserable.

If you truly think professional football officials bias their calls in favor of certain teams, you're just hopeless.

What a sad way to live.
You are obviously a troll or a moron. Probably both, but I will tell you that these are not professional officials. They are part of the good old boy network and have been doing this for years. I will admit that if I was calling the A&M /Texas game, I could not be honest. I would call holding on tu all day. There is no way that the Aggies would lose that game. Do you honestly believe that I am the only person like that?
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Wicked Good Ag said:

SEC do not allow you to reaf at a school to which you graduated in any sport. Howvwer I dont know what other conflicts are considered

Right call under questionable circumstances. Talking to some actual officials they wouldnt be surprised to see some ramifications towards the crew and also some rules clarifed for the future

There are more SEC refs that live in the Hoover/Birmingham area than anywhere else. Like most Bama fans and longhorn fans, they did not attend Bama or longhorn, so they're allowed to call games for those schools.
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Stone44 said:

fc2112 said:

You guys are miserable.

If you truly think professional football officials bias their calls in favor of certain teams, you're just hopeless.

What a sad way to live.
You are obviously a troll or a moron. Probably both, but I will tell you that these are not professional officials. They are part of the good old boy network and have been doing this for years. I will admit that if I was calling the A&M /Texas game, I could not be honest. I would call holding on tu all day. There is no way that the Aggies would lose that game. Do you honestly believe that I am the only person like that?
It's just human nature to be biased, you might tell yourself you aren't but it's something you just can't help. If there was a close call against A&M I'd definitely not call it. That's why if you're a fan of a certain team you shouldn't be a loud to ref those games or even in that league. The SEC needs to really be looking into this crew because what they did they was unpresidential and they should make sure this doesn't ever happen again.

The good thing about this this call wasn't against UH, Iowa St. or some team that doesn't have a large fan base this happened against Georgia and hopefully their big wigs are making calls to Sankey.
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The way around this is for the league office to do a better job of due diligence in assigning referees to games. And for schools like A&M to demand that it happen.

With the rise in sports gambling, family and business ties should absolutely be considered in hiring/assigning referees. These types of incidents won't go away and the conferences need to get a better handle on eliminating any hint of tampering.

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Every fanbase thinks the refs are 100% responsible for every loss, but having an official be apart of a game that they went to one of the two schools needs to stop
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Does the name Timothy Francis Donaghy ring a bell? He is a former nba ref who was fired because of a gambling scandal.
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Nino Brown said:

These morons are going to get themselves banned.

Stay classy tu.


Did anyone else notice just how many sip fans, who may or may not have thrown anything on the field, were gleefully supporting the throwing of trash on the field? Pretty telling, and sad.
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Kansas Kid said:

newbie11 said:

What's funny is that sips think the refs were biased AGAINST them. lol.

News flash. Every team's fans think the refs are biased against them in every game.
I actually think we got away away with murder a few times this year
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davinhalcyon said:

fc2112 said:

You guys are miserable.

If you truly think professional football officials bias their calls in favor of certain teams, you're just hopeless.

What a sad way to live.
But that's exactly the problem. They are not professional. They should be. They should be full time, fully paid professional officials who have to answer for every egregious call. And the fact that they are not is what has led to all these issues.
no practical way for this to happen.

There are 50+ Div 1 (FBS) games every weekend, + FCS, + Juco....to many are needed.

NFL Refs are not full time.
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Which is pretty crazy because Randy's daughter was an Aggie.
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DGrimesAg92 said:

Who was the replay official?

This is what I asked the next morning.
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Bill Superman said:

And it's been confirmed. You guessed it, sip had their guy dressed up as a zebra yesterday, and no it's not Halloween yet.

Head ref Matt Loeffler, a business owner in Dallas with a window company realized what was likely in the best interest of his company while making every bad call, missed call and reversed call last night.

The sip helmet that hangs on the wall of his office also should not be ignored. Not to mention that his son graduated from sip.

We damn well better be doing our due diligence for our game in November.This kind of crap shouldn't be allowed. And it's high time we beat them at their own game considering this bs comes as no surprise to us.


This is exactly why the first thing I ask my window guy is "Where are your loyalties with regard to the horns".
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This thread reeks of fear.
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agracer said:

davinhalcyon said:

fc2112 said:

You guys are miserable.

If you truly think professional football officials bias their calls in favor of certain teams, you're just hopeless.

What a sad way to live.
But that's exactly the problem. They are not professional. They should be. They should be full time, fully paid professional officials who have to answer for every egregious call. And the fact that they are not is what has led to all these issues.
no practical way for this to happen.

There are 50+ Div 1 (FBS) games every weekend, + FCS, + Juco....to many are needed.

NFL Refs are not full time.
I agree there is no practical way for this to happen at every level. But there is a way for it to work at the highest levels of football. People have been clamoring for full time NFL refs for a while. There is just too much at stake. Many games have been decided by a controversial call. With the enormous amount of money flowing in this sport, it really isn't too big of a financial commitment to raise the salary for a select number of officials for the NFL (say 50-75) and for ~150 FBS officials. That's really not too much to ask for such a critical part of the game.
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Noctilucent said:

Nino Brown said:

These morons are going to get themselves banned.

Stay classy tu.


Did anyone else notice just how many sip fans, who may or may not have thrown anything on the field, were gleefully supporting the throwing of trash on the field? Pretty telling, and sad.
Oh yes. Yet the sip fans I know have been fervently trying to defend what happened.
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Logos Stick said:


The only logical talking head in sports media. It's no wonder he's grown in popularity so fast.
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