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***SEC office formally comments on Whorn/UGA officiating***

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Ghost of Bisbee
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So in other words, Sankey won't do a damn thing. ****ing ******bag.

"Statement from the SEC Office:

With 3:12 to play in the third quarter of the Georgia at Texas game, Texas intercepted a pass at the Texas 46-yard line and returned it to the Texas 9 yard line. Texas was flagged for committing defensive pass interference on the play which resulted in Georgia maintaining the ball with a first down.

The game officials gathered to discuss the play, which is permitted to ensure the proper penalty is enforced, at which time the calling official reported that he erred, and a foul should not have been called for defensive pass interference. Consequently, Texas was awarded the ball at the Texas 9 yard line.

While the original evaluation and assessment of the penalty was not properly executed, it is unacceptable to have debris thrown on the field at any time.

The disruption of the game due to debris being thrown onto the field will be reviewed by the Conference office related to SEC sportsmanship policies and procedures."

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redaszag99
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It was not a PI. I hate tu more than anyone, but the outcome was correct. The freaking receiver never saw the ball until it hit the DBs hands.
11th Hour
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Even so, it's a non-reviewable call in college football, so the overturn should not have happened regardless of the ***** fit temper tantrum the burnt orange fans threw.
Micah97
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redaszag99 said:

It was not a PI. I hate tu more than anyone, but the outcome was correct. The freaking receiver never saw the ball until it hit the DBs hands.


I agree but PI calls are not reviewable. They changed the call after the delay from students throwing trash on the field. And coincidentally, the refs saw the replay on the big screen.

Even if there was no nefarious intent and they truly made a mistake announcing the call before consulting all the crew, the sequence of events is extremely suspicious. If there was not a delay from the classy sip fans throwing trash on the field, would the refs have overturned the call? Probably not.
Not Coach Jimbo
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Doesn't matter when you're the Longhorns.

Just like when they reviewed and put time back on the clock for the longhorns to kick a game winning field goal against Nebraska in the big 12 championship... was that '96?

Wasn't reviewable then, rules were changed after the fact.

Keyno
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redaszag99 said:

It was not a PI. I hate tu more than anyone, but the outcome was correct. The freaking receiver never saw the ball until it hit the DBs hands.
Doesn't matter. They called it PI and its unreviewable. Teams get tagged with BS PI all the time
JST92
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Aggies would never throw all that crap on the field. We tried to warn the sec. Entitled babies trying their age old garbage on their new conference and the refs enabled them. Penalty should have stood and additional penalty assessed for delay of game etc.
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People, read a little closer. It was NOT reviewed!!!!! The officials gathered and discussed it. My peeve about the play is that there were two fouls called. Def PI and Def holding. I may have missed it but I only saw discussion about the PI, not the holding. Wonder where that went?!?!

And for the record, PI is different between college and the pros. In college, the defender can face guard and does not have to turn around and face the ball. I thought it was very close to being PI but not quite. However, the official called it and it should have stuck. If not for the stoppage of play to clear the debris the officials would likely not have discussed it.

Fortunately GA overcame the call and beat them anyway . At least everyone got to see the sips classlessness.
Kansas Kid
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First, did anyone see if a mustard bottle or golf ball was included in the items thrown on the field?

Second, will SEC shorts do some take on TU handing the crown of throwing things on the field to tu?
Artimus Gordon
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That was one butt ugly turn of events in Austin and an embarrassment to the rest of the SeC. The SEC has now reached full blown hillbilly status. I'm telling you now, Pack stankey & the longhorns up and trade them head up for Nebraska. The SEC wil be better off in the long run and won't come apart at the seams, which is bound to happen because of the cancer the longhorns bring to a conference. Oh and how much is the SEC going to fine the sips for trashing the field? Or are they going to wave that off too.
dixichkn
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Oh absolutely it's gonna be swept under the rug and "forgotten". Anything for golden child
waco_aggie05
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He didn't return it to the Texas 9, he returned it to the Georgia 9 yard line. You get pinned deep in your own territory and have to drive it into the other teams endzone. Again SEC incompetence.
Micah97
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Ag in ATL said:

People, read a little closer. It was NOT reviewed!!!!! The officials gathered and discussed it. My peeve about the play is that there were two fouls called. Def PI and Def holding. I may have missed it but I only saw discussion about the PI, not the holding. Wonder where that went?!?!

And for the record, PI is different between college and the pros. In college, the defender can face guard and does not have to turn around and face the ball. I thought it was very close to being PI but not quite. However, the official called it and it should have stuck. If not for the stoppage of play to clear the debris the officials would likely not have discussed it.

Fortunately GA overcame the call and beat them anyway . At least everyone got to see the sips classlessness.


I did read it.

I rewatched the play before posting. As I stated, the problem is the optics of it all. They threw the flag. Three refs consulted and then announced the PI call. The replay clearly shows it wasn't. Fans started booing and throwing trash on the field. In the stoppage, the refs consulted again and announced there was no PI.

If one of the crew felt strongly that it wasn't PI, then why didn't he jump into the first conversation to make sure the call was correct? Why wait after the penalty was announced to the stadium.
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Micah97 said:

Ag in ATL said:

People, read a little closer. It was NOT reviewed!!!!! The officials gathered and discussed it. My peeve about the play is that there were two fouls called. Def PI and Def holding. I may have missed it but I only saw discussion about the PI, not the holding. Wonder where that went?!?!

And for the record, PI is different between college and the pros. In college, the defender can face guard and does not have to turn around and face the ball. I thought it was very close to being PI but not quite. However, the official called it and it should have stuck. If not for the stoppage of play to clear the debris the officials would likely not have discussed it.

Fortunately GA overcame the call and beat them anyway . At least everyone got to see the sips classlessness.


I did read it.

I rewatched the play before posting. As I stated, the problem is the optics of it all. They threw the flag. Three refs consulted and then announced the PI call. The replay clearly shows it wasn't. Fans started booing and throwing trash on the field. In the stoppage, the refs consulted again and announced there was no PI.

If one of the crew felt strongly that it wasn't PI, then why didn't he jump into the first conversation to make sure the call was correct? Why wait after the penalty was announced to the stadium.
Yep, everyone in the college football world got the message that if you get a BS call, throw garbage on the field, get a delay during clean up and a "stern warning", then get the call overturned.

Rec
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Contact downfield initiated and shove off by the db before the ball arrives. Might be petty but still PI.
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C@LAg said:

burnt orange uterus already teabagging the whole conference.


When the refs picked up that pass interference flag on Mizzou's first drive against us, giving us the ball, were they 'teabagging' the conference in our benefit? Deliberately tilting the scales to benefit A&M? How about when shortly after they called back Mizzou's TD which would have made the score 10-7? Mizzou fan sites were screaming that the refs killed any chance of them having momentum early in the A&M game.
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waco_aggie05 said:

He didn't return it to the Texas 9, he returned it to the Georgia 9 yard line. You get pinned deep in your own territory and have to drive it into the other teams endzone. Again SEC incompetence.



That whole thing was written poorly, probably from tu's journalism department.
phatty26
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Oh u and tu Saturday 65-24 combined score just beautiful.
Cibalo
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The only silver lining is tu can't say they lost the game due to a bad PI call
lagoag
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Micah97 said:

redaszag99 said:

It was not a PI. I hate tu more than anyone, but the outcome was correct. The freaking receiver never saw the ball until it hit the DBs hands.


I agree but PI calls are not reviewable. They changed the call after the delay from students throwing trash on the field. And coincidentally, the refs saw the replay on the big screen.

Even if there was no nefarious intent and they truly made a mistake announcing the call before consulting all the crew, the sequence of events is extremely suspicious. If there was not a delay from the classy sip fans throwing trash on the field, would the refs have overturned the call? Probably not.
It would have been different if after the call the crew got together and consulted with each other and then picked up the flag and said there wasn't PI on the play but the way it played out was complete BS the way the refs handled it. And like you said they didn't throw a flag for delay of the game or a unsportsmanlike penalty.

Just watch when we play tu and the same refs show up at our game.
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Rec said:

Contact downfield initiated and shove off by the db before the ball arrives. Might be petty but still PI.
What I thought too. Receivers route was disrupted. I've seen a lot less contact called for PI in the past.
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Pumpkinhead said:

C@LAg said:

burnt orange uterus already teabagging the whole conference.


When the refs picked up that pass interference flag on Mizzou's first drive against us, giving us the ball, were they 'teabagging' the conference in our benefit? Deliberately tilting the scales to benefit A&M? How about when shortly after they called back Mizzou's TD which would have made the score 10-7? Mizzou fan sites were screaming that the refs killed any chance of them having momentum early in the A&M game.

As has already been stated numerous times. In our game the flag was immediately picked up and a PI was not announced. In the tu game, the flag was not picked up, the lead official announced PI and then after 5 minutes of tu trash and a big screen review, they reversed the call. PI is not reviewable.
agpetz
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The official announcement omits that PI was not just flagged but announced and the next play was about to commence before fans started throwing trash. It was only then during the delay the refs allegedly conferenced. The refs huddle before a call is announced all the time. They don't announce then huddle then change it. That's the problem.
spherical
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I guess at the end of the day it's better that no one can point at a "missed" call and say that's the reason they lost…

The precedent of crowd interference tho…
Aggie
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I think it was wrong to waive off the flag but so many keep saying " it's a non reviewable penalty"

It was not reviewed it was discussed

Flags are picked up or waived off all the time
Now waiving off a flag after the whitecap announced the penalty… never seen that happen before
lagoag
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Rec said:

Contact downfield initiated and shove off by the db before the ball arrives. Might be petty but still PI.
I'm with you on the PI call. Not only was the DB shoving the receiver he did it while the ball was in the air. To me it was clearly a PI.

Texas A&M
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I've seen plenty of calls reversed when the refs huddle after the play. I've never seen a call reversed after it has been called on the field by the head official. Once a call has been made, it is over.... or should be.
Bison
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agpetz said:

The official announcement omits that PI was not just flagged but announced and the next play was about to commence before fans started throwing trash. It was only then during the delay the refs allegedly conferenced. The refs huddle before a call is announced all the time. They don't announce then huddle then change it. That's the problem.

I will need to review the footage again, unless someone already has it queued up: once the call was made, was there any way Georgia could have gone with a quick snap? Or was play stopped immediately after the first bottle? I think one lesson every coach may have just learned was that you have to have another play immediately dialed up after any given penalty, since now any play is apparently reviewable.
Texas A&M
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Bison said:

agpetz said:

The official announcement omits that PI was not just flagged but announced and the next play was about to commence before fans started throwing trash. It was only then during the delay the refs allegedly conferenced. The refs huddle before a call is announced all the time. They don't announce then huddle then change it. That's the problem.

I will need to review the footage again, unless someone already has it queued up: once the call was made, was there any way Georgia could have gone with a quick snap? Or was play stopped immediately after the first bottle? I think one lesson every coach may have just learned was that you have to have another play immediately dialed up after any given penalty, since now any play is apparently reviewable.

One bottle/can can down right away which was the initial delay. Then they started raining the field with them. There was no chance to run a play.
Pumpkinhead
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This is a fascinating topic but it is actually better that nobody has to listen to the horn fans on social media all-week whining how the refs with that PI call deliberately cost them their comeback versus Georgia. Because of course the assumption would have been that Texas would have won the game.

Instead, the call was reversed and they still got their asses beat. Much better outcome.



Alabama fans now want to fire DeBouer and bench Milroe. Off to the Bama sites I go!
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Rec said:

Contact downfield initiated and shove off by the db before the ball arrives. Might be petty but still PI.


This is what I saw. It looked like DB reached up with his hands and interrupted the receiver's route.
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Pumpkinhead said:

C@LAg said:

burnt orange uterus already teabagging the whole conference.


When the refs picked up that pass interference flag on Mizzou's first drive against us, giving us the ball, were they 'teabagging' the conference in our benefit? Deliberately tilting the scales to benefit A&M? How about when shortly after they called back Mizzou's TD which would have made the score 10-7? Mizzou fan sites were screaming that the refs killed any chance of them having momentum early in the A&M game.


No, it was not because they never announced it as a penalty. That flag was thrown by an official out of his zone and the official in the zone said it was not PI. Now, if they had announced the call, marked the spot, allowed Mizzou to line up, then had debris on the field and THEN overturned the call? Sure. The two situations aren't remotely comparable and if you don't understand why then learn more about football.

When have you ever seen a penalty announced, enforced, the offense lineup THEN an official stop everyone to say he was wrong when it's not reviewable? It doesn't happen.
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What a weak and toothless statement. The entire emphasis is that the original call was wrong, and it is bad to throw trash on the field. ZERO mention of the refs blatantly using video board evidence to essentially replay review a PI call, and the only way that was possible was the 10 minute delay of game caused by fans. Also, no penalty for delay of game?
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