NM.

SeaBrisket said:

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I know it's not just them, but they're the ones showing up all over my social media recently. How come nobody knows how to spell? I mean, in the age of autocorrect, there's no excuse. A truly entertaining event would be a spelling bee between the fans of the two schools…..

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How come...nope...Why don't you know the grammatically correct way to say something?

cav14 said:

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NyAggie said:

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Dank said:

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Now that they're in the SEC the game is finally at 2:30, seems like it's been an 11am game the last 5 years or so. The early timeslot is another thing that takes away from it being considered a "major" game

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Don't Michigan and Ohio st usually play at noon est?


To me, that's the best rivalry game because it's st the end of the season s d both teams are usually highly ranked and the hatred is as real as it gets

I don't think time slot makes a difference

To me, ou Texas is a good rivalry game but not on that level because the true hate isn't there like it is for tu/a&m or osu/Michigan , bama/auburn etc…

Sure, they dislike each other, but it's A&M that tu is always trying to put down and truly can't stand to see have success

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LOL at thinking Texas/A&M is a bigger rivalry than Texas/OU. For any rivalry to truly be big, then both fan bases need to equally share the same sentiment with each other which is what you get with Texas/OU. Texas fans simply view A&M as a little brother no matter how much you personally want to be seen as more important than OU. Large polling of college football fan bases supports this.

https://knowrivalry.com/team/longhorns-texas-97/



This graph is from all the data this site has gathered. Notice how there's an arrow going back and forth between OU and Texas while there's only one arrow going from A&M to Texas.

Additionally, Texas/OU is more like a battle between the states of Texas and Oklahoma which can be viewed as bigger than any in-state battle. Same with Michigan/tOSU being "bigger" than Alabama/Auburn. But also the nature of the RRR game itself being at a neutral site with both fans equally split down the middle of the 50 creates a very intense atmosphere that is unique to only this game and nothing else (including other neutral site games).

https://knowrivalry.com/league/fbs-football/

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I am shocked that Arizona and ASU is the most intense rivalry.

In my book, OSU-Michigan is the biggest rivalry followed by tu-ou.

TCU sees Baylor was their biggest riyal? Really? Assumed smu

TyperWoods said:

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Randy Rhodes said:

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Am I the only one that doesn't consider this one of the best rivalry games? I know it's a rivalry, but it's not near the top of the list. Seems like they try and make it a big deal

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sips are always back until their daddy OU beats that a$$

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sips lead series 63-51-5?

Randy Rhodes said:

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Am I the only one that doesn't consider this one of the best rivalry games? I know it's a rivalry, but it's not near the top of the list. Seems like they try and make it a big deal

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I don't get it either, man.
All that happens is 92,000 people show up - exactly half of them in burnt orange and exactly half in crimson.

And all the sips have to do is drive 200 miles to the stadium. the sooners are even luckier, they only have to drive 190 miles.

They've only played 119 times. and it's not like the Texas State fair - held right next door - is a big deal either. It's only been around since 1886 and only attracts 2 million people per year.

Plus, the stadium looks like this from overhead. yawn.



This one really solidifies the argument: In 2005, The Dallas Morning News asked the 119 Division 1A football coaches to identify the top rivalry game in college football. The Red River Rivalry ranked third, behind only MichiganOhio State and ArmyNavy.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_River_Rivalry#cite_note-7][7][/url]

Excellent points - add the combined 11 national championships and it is indeed a big rivalry

The Porkchop Express said:

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Randy Rhodes said:

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Am I the only one that doesn't consider this one of the best rivalry games? I know it's a rivalry, but it's not near the top of the list. Seems like they try and make it a big deal

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I don't get it either, man.
All that happens is 92,000 people show up - exactly half of them in burnt orange and exactly half in crimson.

And all the sips have to do is drive 200 miles to the stadium. the sooners are even luckier, they only have to drive 190 miles.

They've only played 119 times. and it's not like the Texas State fair - held right next door - is a big deal either. It's only been around since 1886 and only attracts 2 million people per year.

Plus, the stadium looks like this from overhead. yawn.



This one really solidifies the argument: In 2005, The Dallas Morning News asked the 119 Division 1A football coaches to identify the top rivalry game in college football. The Red River Rivalry ranked third, behind only MichiganOhio State and ArmyNavy.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_River_Rivalry#cite_note-7][7][/url]

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cav14 said:

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NyAggie said:

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Dank said:

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Now that they're in the SEC the game is finally at 2:30, seems like it's been an 11am game the last 5 years or so. The early timeslot is another thing that takes away from it being considered a "major" game

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Don't Michigan and Ohio st usually play at noon est?


To me, that's the best rivalry game because it's st the end of the season s d both teams are usually highly ranked and the hatred is as real as it gets

I don't think time slot makes a difference

To me, ou Texas is a good rivalry game but not on that level because the true hate isn't there like it is for tu/a&m or osu/Michigan , bama/auburn etc…

Sure, they dislike each other, but it's A&M that tu is always trying to put down and truly can't stand to see have success

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LOL at thinking Texas/A&M is a bigger rivalry than Texas/OU. For any rivalry to truly be big, then both fan bases need to equally share the same sentiment with each other which is what you get with Texas/OU. Texas fans simply view A&M as a little brother no matter how much you personally want to be seen as more important than OU. Large polling of college football fan bases supports this.

https://knowrivalry.com/team/longhorns-texas-97/



This graph is from all the data this site has gathered. Notice how there's an arrow going back and forth between OU and Texas while there's only one arrow going from A&M to Texas.

Additionally, Texas/OU is more like a battle between the states of Texas and Oklahoma which can be viewed as bigger than any in-state battle. Same with Michigan/tOSU being "bigger" than Alabama/Auburn. But also the nature of the RRR game itself being at a neutral site with both fans equally split down the middle of the 50 creates a very intense atmosphere that is unique to only this game and nothing else (including other neutral site games).

https://knowrivalry.com/league/fbs-football/

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Lol hen wtf are u doing on an A&M message board sip?

Lol keep telling yourself you hate OU more

I'll add that I also don't view it as that big of a deal. It's always seemed like they try to make it more important than it is, but I guess I'm in the minority.

2 teams, each get 1/2 the stadium. Cool, sounds like a bowl game or any other neutral site game. Sure, it's two schools that hate each other, but as someone mentioned above, who did the horns root for when we played OU in 2013? Who do the horns have in their fight song?

Again, not that it isn't a big rivalry game, it just seems made to look bigger than it really is. Maybe that's because it's so early in the season and not on rivalry weekend, when the finality of the season is on the line? And as mentioned above, both teams almost always come in highly ranked due to preseason rankings and weak schedules leading up to this game. They rarely have tough games prior to this one to help falsely inflate its meaning. So you have the fake Texan longhorn school from Austin played in the fakest city in Texas, fake pumping up this game that they want so bad to be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

So it's at the State Fair. Cool. Anyone outside of Dallas ever go to the fair? As a Houstonian, I laugh at the little fair y'all call the "State" Fair. The Houston Rodeo blows the State Fair out of the water in every imaginable way. I lived in Dallas for a bit after college and seriously never thought it was even a thing until I moved there. Even when there I didn't think much of it but loved going home to catch a Houston Rodeo Cookoff or a night or two at the Rodeo.

Randy Rhodes said:

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Am I the only one that doesn't consider this one of the best rivalry games? I know it's a rivalry, but it's not near the top of the list. Seems like they try and make it a big deal

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This is very well done sir. The trolls can't help but expose themselves when you throw out some bait like this.

And to your point, this is a very big game for many a Sam Houston, SFA, and Tarleton alum will be glued to TV this Saturday pulling for their team. And for WalMart t-shirt sales.

vansprinkle said:

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I'll add that I also don't view it as that big of a deal. It's always seemed like they try to make it more important than it is, but I guess I'm in the minority.

2 teams, each get 1/2 the stadium. Cool, sounds like a bowl game or any other neutral site game. Sure, it's two schools that hate each other, but as someone mentioned above, who did the horns root for when we played OU in 2013? Who do the horns have in their fight song?

Again, not that it isn't a big rivalry game, it just seems made to look bigger than it really is. Maybe that's because it's so early in the season and not on rivalry weekend, when the finality of the season is on the line? And as mentioned above, both teams almost always come in highly ranked due to preseason rankings and weak schedules leading up to this game. They rarely have tough games prior to this one to help falsely inflate its meaning. So you have the fake Texan longhorn school from Austin played in the fakest city in Texas, fake pumping up this game that they want so bad to be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

So it's at the State Fair. Cool. Anyone outside of Dallas ever go to the fair? As a Houstonian, I laugh at the little fair y'all call the "State" Fair. The Houston Rodeo blows the State Fair out of the water in every imaginable way. I lived in Dallas for a bit after college and seriously never thought it was even a thing until I moved there. Even when there I didn't think much of it but loved going home to catch a Houston Rodeo Cookoff or a night or two at the Rodeo.

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Yeah. Fair Park is a no-go for many.

Here's the vibe for those not experienced with the real cotton bowl. You drive up and circle for a bit. Eventually you park in someone's front yard and are directed by someone who probably doesn't live there and who is most likely an addict but who has definitely been through some stuff. You hand the guy some cash for parking and he shoves it in his pocket as you walk uneasily away from your vehicle pretty sure you will never see it again. If it's the old cotton bowl you are already freezing your balls off by now but you head to the stadium. You walk through a landscape that looks like the ruins of what someone in the '60's thought the future would look like. You sit in the run down stadium and watch the vintage '80's wrecking crew manhandle some team. Finally you leave feeling satisfied that you, your car and the Aggies won again.

As for the RRS I have no idea. Probably similar only hot and with circus food.

cav14 said:

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NyAggie said:

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Dank said:

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Now that they're in the SEC the game is finally at 2:30, seems like it's been an 11am game the last 5 years or so. The early timeslot is another thing that takes away from it being considered a "major" game

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Don't Michigan and Ohio st usually play at noon est?


To me, that's the best rivalry game because it's st the end of the season s d both teams are usually highly ranked and the hatred is as real as it gets

I don't think time slot makes a difference

To me, ou Texas is a good rivalry game but not on that level because the true hate isn't there like it is for tu/a&m or osu/Michigan , bama/auburn etc…

Sure, they dislike each other, but it's A&M that tu is always trying to put down and truly can't stand to see have success

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LOL at thinking Texas/A&M is a bigger rivalry than Texas/OU. For any rivalry to truly be big, then both fan bases need to equally share the same sentiment with each other which is what you get with Texas/OU. Texas fans simply view A&M as a little brother no matter how much you personally want to be seen as more important than OU. Large polling of college football fan bases supports this.

https://knowrivalry.com/team/longhorns-texas-97/



This graph is from all the data this site has gathered. Notice how there's an arrow going back and forth between OU and Texas while there's only one arrow going from A&M to Texas.

Additionally, Texas/OU is more like a battle between the states of Texas and Oklahoma which can be viewed as bigger than any in-state battle. Same with Michigan/tOSU being "bigger" than Alabama/Auburn. But also the nature of the RRR game itself being at a neutral site with both fans equally split down the middle of the 50 creates a very intense atmosphere that is unique to only this game and nothing else (including other neutral site games).

https://knowrivalry.com/league/fbs-football/

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This map is dumb. No one sided rivarly with us between Balyor or Arkansas? Nothing between LSU and Florida, Ole Miss, or us? Arkansas has no one-sided rilvarly with tu? Nothing between Florida and Miami? Nothing between Kentucky and Tennessee or Vanderbilt? Only a one way line between UNC and Duke? Only a one-way line between Alabama and Tennessee (this is a top 10 named rilvarly imo)? No lines between Auburn and Georgia (another top 10 named rilvary)?

Something is flawed in that data set, so I wouldn't trust those results.

https://jessicasteachingpage.wordpress.com/2018/08/03/why-vs-how-come/#:~:text=As%20it%20turns%20out%2C%20it,from%20the%20word%20"why."

texag101 said:

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Randy Rhodes said:

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Am I the only one that doesn't consider this one of the best rivalry games? I know it's a rivalry, but it's not near the top of the list. Seems like they try and make it a big deal

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It's just you and every other Aggie desperate to marginalize texas.

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Some truth here but tu and Okie have also marginlized themselves for years by being overrated and bad in the dead big 12 and with the game so early in the season, it hasn't held much weight besides bragging rights and each of them looking to ruin a season.

So a big 12 rivalry between overrated programs with no playoff implications has generally resulted in an underwhelming rivalry outside of the fans of those programs.

Looking at Bama vs Georgia or Tenn or LSU or Auburn all of those match ups have had bigger implications. They feel much bigger, while tu and okie feel like little brothers brawling in the backyard for funsies. Also, Ohio St v Michigan obviously tops this game and even the Florida school rivalries or Clemson ACC stuff has had bigger implications for post season recently.

All of these factors help explain why the red river shootout is a really just the biggest rivalry for the two fan bases, outside of that bubble it's been generally meaningless.

Now I agree it's the bigger game for each school, but that is because Texas thinks itself better then the Aggies despite the modern era being neck and neck. By the nature of the tu relationship, they can't allow themselves to care as much about the ags, but a loss at the end of the year always stings more and has way more implications behind it.

With tu finally stepping up to the big boys table, the new SEC rivalry will mean more than any other regional rivalry and will be the bigger game in the coming years.

cav14 said:

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NyAggie said:

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Now that they're in the SEC the game is finally at 2:30, seems like it's been an 11am game the last 5 years or so. The early timeslot is another thing that takes away from it being considered a "major" game

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Don't Michigan and Ohio st usually play at noon est?


To me, that's the best rivalry game because it's st the end of the season s d both teams are usually highly ranked and the hatred is as real as it gets

I don't think time slot makes a difference

To me, ou Texas is a good rivalry game but not on that level because the true hate isn't there like it is for tu/a&m or osu/Michigan , bama/auburn etc…

Sure, they dislike each other, but it's A&M that tu is always trying to put down and truly can't stand to see have success

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LOL at thinking Texas/A&M is a bigger rivalry than Texas/OU. For any rivalry to truly be big, then both fan bases need to equally share the same sentiment with each other which is what you get with Texas/OU. Texas fans simply view A&M as a little brother no matter how much you personally want to be seen as more important than OU. Large polling of college football fan bases supports this.

https://knowrivalry.com/team/longhorns-texas-97/



This graph is from all the data this site has gathered. Notice how there's an arrow going back and forth between OU and Texas while there's only one arrow going from A&M to Texas.

Additionally, Texas/OU is more like a battle between the states of Texas and Oklahoma which can be viewed as bigger than any in-state battle. Same with Michigan/tOSU being "bigger" than Alabama/Auburn. But also the nature of the RRR game itself being at a neutral site with both fans equally split down the middle of the 50 creates a very intense atmosphere that is unique to only this game and nothing else (including other neutral site games).

https://knowrivalry.com/league/fbs-football/

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So surely they'll hold a hex rally, sing about OU in their fight song, etc. right?

OU offense is so bad this year, it's gonna be ugly tomorrow. QB play atrocious, online play atrocious, Receivers have quit on the season already. Defense may hold them within 20 pts but I doubt it

all of you sips aren't nearly as interested as your fellow sips.....

According to SeatGeek, the median price for tu-ou tickets is around $450.

And, they say the median price for the Ag-tu game is around $1600....

So, who again is your biggest rival????

HoustonAggie427 said:

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cav14 said:

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NyAggie said:

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Dank said:

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Now that they're in the SEC the game is finally at 2:30, seems like it's been an 11am game the last 5 years or so. The early timeslot is another thing that takes away from it being considered a "major" game

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Don't Michigan and Ohio st usually play at noon est?


To me, that's the best rivalry game because it's st the end of the season s d both teams are usually highly ranked and the hatred is as real as it gets

I don't think time slot makes a difference

To me, ou Texas is a good rivalry game but not on that level because the true hate isn't there like it is for tu/a&m or osu/Michigan , bama/auburn etc…

Sure, they dislike each other, but it's A&M that tu is always trying to put down and truly can't stand to see have success

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LOL at thinking Texas/A&M is a bigger rivalry than Texas/OU. For any rivalry to truly be big, then both fan bases need to equally share the same sentiment with each other which is what you get with Texas/OU. Texas fans simply view A&M as a little brother no matter how much you personally want to be seen as more important than OU. Large polling of college football fan bases supports this.

https://knowrivalry.com/team/longhorns-texas-97/



This graph is from all the data this site has gathered. Notice how there's an arrow going back and forth between OU and Texas while there's only one arrow going from A&M to Texas.

Additionally, Texas/OU is more like a battle between the states of Texas and Oklahoma which can be viewed as bigger than any in-state battle. Same with Michigan/tOSU being "bigger" than Alabama/Auburn. But also the nature of the RRR game itself being at a neutral site with both fans equally split down the middle of the 50 creates a very intense atmosphere that is unique to only this game and nothing else (including other neutral site games).

https://knowrivalry.com/league/fbs-football/

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I am shocked that Arizona and ASU is the most intense rivalry.

In my book, OSU-Michigan is the biggest rivalry followed by tu-ou.

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Username is hillarious. Why do sips love TA so much?

Joes said:

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In the whole history of the polls back to the 1930s there have been a grand total of two top-ten matchups between Texas and A&M, 1941 and 1975. Texas/OU has had 17 of them, a large number of them being top-five matchups, and an enormous part of the remainder of the games have been things like #1 vs #11 or #3 vs #12 and so on. It's so obviously night and day in terms of "bigness" it blows my mind that anyone would try to argue it.

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Because they usually haven't played anyone by that point of the season. Maybe you missed that earlier.

vansprinkle said:

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Again, not that it isn't a big rivalry game, it just seems made to look bigger than it really is. Maybe that's because it's so early in the season and not on rivalry weekend, when the finality of the season is on the line? And as mentioned above, both teams almost always come in highly ranked due to preseason rankings and weak schedules leading up to this game. They rarely have tough games prior to this one to help falsely inflate its meaning. So you have the fake Texan longhorn school from Austin played in the fakest city in Texas, fake pumping up this game that they want so bad to be the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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Then the winner of it goes on to win the BXII and usually not much else. The setting is cool and all, but it's way overrated. Would likely be even less so if OU wasn't treating tu like the Ags have the Hogs.