Reed against ARK 11/22 160 Yards 2 TD 0 Int

A&M ARK with Mond
Mond Year 1 14/27 217 Yards 2 TD 1 INT
Mond Year 2 17/26 201 Yard 0 TD 2 INT
Mond had his best game in Year 4 against the Hogs, a team that was pretty stacked offensively.

While people complained about Mond he had a great senior season and was rarely critiqued for accuracy.

Had Reed thrown a pic in the Arkansas Game A&M probably loses.

The media needs to lighten up on Reed.
His overthrows were in part due to the defenders holding and jamming WR beyond the line of scrimmage and getting away with it.

He has performed his job for the strategy being employed.

His throwing hasn't been good. Cmon man

I love to hope but it's a problem

Been better than the alternate......Weigman.

I wouldn't say the criticisms are ridiculous but maybe a little unfair. He's a young QB with limited experience so I think we should be optimistic that he'll continue to improve in the passing game.

That being said his ability to run is a huge weapon and changes the way defenses play us. I think his dual-threat capabilities are undervalued big time by a portion of the fanbase unhappy with the offense. The running game is going to be our strength this season and Marcel + Moss +improved o-line so far has been a winning formula.

Viper16 said:

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Been better than the alternate......Weigman.

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Weigman has a career completion percentage of 60.3%.

Reed has a career completion percentage of 56%.

It is odd to me how many people want to make sweeping judgments about Weigman based on one outing when he had been pretty good prior to that game. It is also odd that no one wants to account for the fact that Weigman's one game was against a defense that is objectively much better than any defense Reed has faced.

I like both guys and think that each one excels in different areas. It is just so weird how much Weigman bashing goes on around here.

This year:
- Notre Dame has given up the 24th fewest passing yards.
- Bowling Green has given up the 41st fewest passing yards.
- Arkansas has given up the 89th fewest passing yards.
- Florida has given up the 97th fewest passing yards.
- McNeese St. is an FCS school.

- Notre Dame has given up the 21st fewest total yards.
- Arkansas has given up the 47th fewest total yards.
- Bowling Green has given up the 95th fewest total yards.
- Florida has given up the 111th fewest total yards.
- McNeese St. is an FCS school.

Mond is hardly the gold standard for accuracy. Maybe for toughness and perseverance but not accuracy.

Never heard of this Mond guy.

First year starter Reed is already much better than first year starter Mond. I'll take the over.

Artorias said:

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First year starter Reed is already much better than first year starter Mond. I'll take the over.

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No need for facts here. Most here have already anointed Reed as the next VY and CW as glass.

People also don't realize ND played Weigman and it's defensive stats will forever be grateful for whatever the hell that performance was

Klein hasn't exactly helped our QB's out much calling high percentage passes. The play calling hasn't been great. Try to help your QB out early and get into a rhythm.

It better change too or we are going to drop some games we shouldn't including tomorrow imo. I expect it will .

As you say get the qb's confidence up but also back the lb's the heck off the line of scrimmage and open up some running lanes.

Throwing either QB or the coaches under the bus is what should be ridiculed

McElroy said yesterday on an ESPN show that Reed is 2nd [to last] in off-target throws at 20%-25%.. Not sure what qualifies, like broken routes for instance.

PhatMack19 said:

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Klein hasn't exactly helped our QB's out much calling high percentage passes. The play calling hasn't been great. Try to help your QB out early and get into a rhythm.

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Our run game was stuffed for most of Notre Dame and Arkansas, like it appears clear it'll be that way vs the good SEC defenses. In fact, it wasn't til Arkansas put in their backup DL that we drove down the field in the 4th Qtr. We need to pass more than we do but effectively.

Reed is not the most accurate but hes extremely young.

He has work to do but he has a bright future.

You start Reed. Don't **** with a win streak.

SA68AG said:

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Mond is hardly the gold standard for accuracy. Maybe for toughness and perseverance but not accuracy.

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Big difference over his tenure. By year 4 he was decent at 63% but 19 TDs against 3 Ints is very good.

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I wouldn't say the criticisms are ridiculous but maybe a little unfair. He's a young QB with limited experience so I think we should be optimistic that he'll continue to improve in the passing game.

That being said his ability to run is a huge weapon and changes the way defenses play us. I think his dual-threat capabilities are undervalued big time by a portion of the fanbase unhappy with the offense. The running game is going to be our strength this season and Marcel + Moss +improved o-line so far has been a winning formula.

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This is the intelligent take. It hasn't been spectacular, but not surprising for the limited amount of games he's played. To be expected. And he's balanced that with some really good throws too. Will he be great? Who knows. Too early to tell and he has a lot of growing to do to give it a chance. Same for CW. Verdict is still out on both of em. Dismissing either one would be premature.

I've said numerous times Reed has only had X-amount of starts, be patient.

Zachary Klement said:

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Viper16 said:

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Been better than the alternate......Weigman.

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Weigman has a career completion percentage of 60.3%.

Reed has a career completion percentage of 56%.

It is odd to me how many people want to make sweeping judgments about Weigman based on one outing when he had been pretty good prior to that game. It is also odd that no one wants to account for the fact that Weigman's one game was against a defense that is objectively much better than any defense Reed has faced.

I like both guys and think that each one excels in different areas. It is just so weird how much Weigman bashing goes on around here.

This year:
- Notre Dame has given up the 24th fewest passing yards.
- Bowling Green has given up the 41st fewest passing yards.
- Arkansas has given up the 89th fewest passing yards.
- Florida has given up the 97th fewest passing yards.
- McNeese St. is an FCS school.

- Notre Dame has given up the 21st fewest total yards.
- Arkansas has given up the 47th fewest total yards.
- Bowling Green has given up the 95th fewest total yards.
- Florida has given up the 111th fewest total yards.
- McNeese St. is an FCS school.

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Completion percentages rank behind successful leadership skills!
Not dissing Weigman, but the team performs better with Reed.
Reed has won 4 of the 5 games he has played.
Might have been 5 of the 5 games if Elko had started him in the second half of the Notre Dame game.

I'll take the 80% game winning position over completion percentages any day.

Viper16 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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Viper16 said:

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Been better than the alternate......Weigman.

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Weigman has a career completion percentage of 60.3%.

Reed has a career completion percentage of 56%.

It is odd to me how many people want to make sweeping judgments about Weigman based on one outing when he had been pretty good prior to that game. It is also odd that no one wants to account for the fact that Weigman's one game was against a defense that is objectively much better than any defense Reed has faced.

I like both guys and think that each one excels in different areas. It is just so weird how much Weigman bashing goes on around here.

This year:
- Notre Dame has given up the 24th fewest passing yards.
- Bowling Green has given up the 41st fewest passing yards.
- Arkansas has given up the 89th fewest passing yards.
- Florida has given up the 97th fewest passing yards.
- McNeese St. is an FCS school.

- Notre Dame has given up the 21st fewest total yards.
- Arkansas has given up the 47th fewest total yards.
- Bowling Green has given up the 95th fewest total yards.
- Florida has given up the 111th fewest total yards.
- McNeese St. is an FCS school.

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Completion percentages rank behind successful leadership skills!
Not dissing Weigman, but the team performs better with Reed.
Reed has won 4 of the 5 games he has played.
Might have been 5 of the 5 games if Elko had started him in the second half of the Notre Dame game.

I'll take the 80% game winning position over completion percentages any day.

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I just don't understand how you and others have so confidently come to that conclusion.

Weigman had a bad game against the one great defense we've played against.

Reed has been decent against 4 defenses that are bad to very bad.

As Mike Leech said, you can't teach accuracy. You are the kid that can hit a mail box with a snow ball or you can't. Reed can juke your ass straight out of your cleates though, so dual threat is the key. If Klein can drag route the TE, he can be VYish.

Have you seen any players tweet or comment anywhere anything about "get better 15" or "come back strong Conner" or "can't wait till you're back Conner" or anything of that nature… not at all, they all just celebrated and embraced Marcel. After Florida, Bryce Anderson said something to the effect "we've been waiting for Marcel to get his time"

look at how the team reacted on the sidelines last year when Jaylen Henderson was our guy and watch how they've been with Marcel… it's night and day and the guys seem to have more fun and play a lot harder!!! Why else would your 5 star future first round qb not even be a captain on this team, what other qb of his stature isn't lol that tells you everything you need to know. Elko went through the spring and chose a 19 year old freshman in York as the leader and not his all American quarterback LOL! In the spring game after Taurean picked a lot of his defensive guys first, Zuhn picked the entire starting o-line along with Marcel lol, funny! Then he went 5 of 14 with 47 yards, followed up by 12 of 30 with 94 yards in the biggest game of his career… that's 17 of 44 in his last two outings, about 3 yards a pass. Also funny is how Conner's daddy's company who sponsors the lone star showdown gives the huge $600,000 nil deal to Conner over anyone on the A&M side or tu side

I don't understand your math. Reed didn't play in the ND game. How would he be 5 of 5?

For 2024, <55% completion rate usually means a losing QB/team, but not having TOs has helped offset coupled with his running ability. Offense has been simplified, but hopefully they are adding complexities each week. He as definitely missed progression reads along with some poor throws at times (twice in Pigs game, threw between 2 WRs and if pigs DBs were good/awake, both could have been INTs. Of course, could have been WR route error too).

https://12thman.com/sports/football/roster/marcel-reed/13659

Zachary Klement said:

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Viper16 said:

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Zachary Klement said:

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Viper16 said:

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Been better than the alternate......Weigman.

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Weigman has a career completion percentage of 60.3%.

Reed has a career completion percentage of 56%.

It is odd to me how many people want to make sweeping judgments about Weigman based on one outing when he had been pretty good prior to that game. It is also odd that no one wants to account for the fact that Weigman's one game was against a defense that is objectively much better than any defense Reed has faced.

I like both guys and think that each one excels in different areas. It is just so weird how much Weigman bashing goes on around here.

This year:
- Notre Dame has given up the 24th fewest passing yards.
- Bowling Green has given up the 41st fewest passing yards.
- Arkansas has given up the 89th fewest passing yards.
- Florida has given up the 97th fewest passing yards.
- McNeese St. is an FCS school.

- Notre Dame has given up the 21st fewest total yards.
- Arkansas has given up the 47th fewest total yards.
- Bowling Green has given up the 95th fewest total yards.
- Florida has given up the 111th fewest total yards.
- McNeese St. is an FCS school.

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Completion percentages rank behind successful leadership skills!
Not dissing Weigman, but the team performs better with Reed.
Reed has won 4 of the 5 games he has played.
Might have been 5 of the 5 games if Elko had started him in the second half of the Notre Dame game.

I'll take the 80% game winning position over completion percentages any day.

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I just don't understand how you and others have so confidently come to that conclusion.

Weigman had a bad game against the one great defense we've played against.

Reed has been decent against 4 defenses that are bad to very bad.

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It's not hard to understand......it's simply the power of observation!

Definitely Not A Cop said:

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I don't understand your math. Reed didn't play in the ND game. How would he be 5 of 5?

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Maybe you need to read my comment again!

PhatMack19 said:

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Klein hasn't exactly helped our QB's out much calling high percentage passes. The play calling hasn't been great. Try to help your QB out early and get into a rhythm.

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Has the zoo ever liked an A&M play caller? Who do you want?

He has a lot of growing to do as a thrower of the football.

What's Hendersons numbers look like

NowhereMan said:

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While people complained about Mond he had a great senior season and was rarely critiqued for accuracy.

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Your memory is a lot different than mine. He was absolutely **** on for accuracy for his entire career.

Frank Grimes said:

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PhatMack19 said:

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Klein hasn't exactly helped our QB's out much calling high percentage passes. The play calling hasn't been great. Try to help your QB out early and get into a rhythm.

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Has the zoo ever liked an A&M play caller? Who do you want?

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Yes, we loved Kliff Kingsbury.

Cojack said:

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What's Hendersons numbers look like

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Recommend you change the spelling of your name to Kojack,,,,,,,,Ha!