jaxisback said:
The conspiracy theories are so much fun though.
I think Vander is correct. There's no 3-D chess going on to protect Connor's prospects or whatever.
I think his shoulder was bothering him going into the ND game. Maybe he concealed it from the coaches, maybe he thought it was just nagging and would loosen up. Likely the contact during the game made it worse, they treated it prior to McNeese and he was able to make it through a half.
I've seen him play a good amount and never seen anything like what he did in the Notre Dame game. Not in high school, not in any of his A&M games, not in practice and not in Spring scrimmages. He's always been the most accurate guy on the field every time I've ever seen him.
I hope he gets back to health. I'm very happy with the development of Marcel, but we need both guys. In the SEC you're much more likely to need 2 or even 3 QB's during the season than one. Also, I'd like to see both guys compete and gauge things off how the offense performs with each. I remain very confident that a healthy Weigman is one of the best QB's in the college game, but I agree, he needs to show it and he needs to exhibit the mental aptitude to be great.
PyriteAg said:
My biggest issue with the whole theory on Weigman being actually injured is that he started the first half of the McNeese game. Elko flat out said after the ND game that he was injured and yet he still played Weigman in the 2nd game?
In my opinion, either Weigman is healthy enough to play right now or he actually isn't and Elko and co recklessly decided to play him in the McNeese game.
jaxisback said:
The conspiracy theories are so much fun though.
I think Vander is correct. There's no 3-D chess going on to protect Connor's prospects or whatever.
I think his shoulder was bothering him going into the ND game. Maybe he concealed it from the coaches, maybe he thought it was just nagging and would loosen up. Likely the contact during the game made it worse, they treated it prior to McNeese and he was able to make it through a half.
I've seen him play a good amount and never seen anything like what he did in the Notre Dame game. Not in high school, not in any of his A&M games, not in practice and not in Spring scrimmages. He's always been the most accurate guy on the field every time I've ever seen him.
I hope he gets back to health. I'm very happy with the development of Marcel, but we need both guys. In the SEC you're much more likely to need 2 or even 3 QB's during the season than one. Also, I'd like to see both guys compete and gauge things off how the offense performs with each. I remain very confident that a healthy Weigman is one of the best QB's in the college game, but I agree, he needs to show it and he needs to exhibit the mental aptitude to be great.
I know some people are getting wild with the comments against Weigman, so I'll just let this slide and assume that you're just really annoyed with them.vander54 said:PyriteAg said:
My biggest issue with the whole theory on Weigman being actually injured is that he started the first half of the McNeese game. Elko flat out said after the ND game that he was injured and yet he still played Weigman in the 2nd game?
In my opinion, either Weigman is healthy enough to play right now or he actually isn't and Elko and co recklessly decided to play him in the McNeese game.
You must be new to competitive sports
PyriteAg said:I know some people are getting wild with the comments against Weigman, so I'll just let this slide and assume that you're just really annoyed with them.vander54 said:PyriteAg said:
My biggest issue with the whole theory on Weigman being actually injured is that he started the first half of the McNeese game. Elko flat out said after the ND game that he was injured and yet he still played Weigman in the 2nd game?
In my opinion, either Weigman is healthy enough to play right now or he actually isn't and Elko and co recklessly decided to play him in the McNeese game.
You must be new to competitive sports
I still think it's reckless, and I'd rather Elko rested Weigman sooner than later because it was very clear he was far from 100% as many pointed out during the game.vander54 said:PyriteAg said:I know some people are getting wild with the comments against Weigman, so I'll just let this slide and assume that you're just really annoyed with them.vander54 said:PyriteAg said:
My biggest issue with the whole theory on Weigman being actually injured is that he started the first half of the McNeese game. Elko flat out said after the ND game that he was injured and yet he still played Weigman in the 2nd game?
In my opinion, either Weigman is healthy enough to play right now or he actually isn't and Elko and co recklessly decided to play him in the McNeese game.
You must be new to competitive sports
No I'm just really questioning your knowledge. Playing injured is extremely common and sometimes they try playing through the pain but have to shut it down after trying.
infinity ag said:
I think Wiggy is fine and healthy. Elko just thinks Reed gives him a better chance of a Win.
He does not want Wiggy to look bad as if he got benched. It is better to say he is injured.
vander54 said:PyriteAg said:I know some people are getting wild with the comments against Weigman, so I'll just let this slide and assume that you're just really annoyed with them.vander54 said:PyriteAg said:
My biggest issue with the whole theory on Weigman being actually injured is that he started the first half of the McNeese game. Elko flat out said after the ND game that he was injured and yet he still played Weigman in the 2nd game?
In my opinion, either Weigman is healthy enough to play right now or he actually isn't and Elko and co recklessly decided to play him in the McNeese game.
You must be new to competitive sports
No I'm just really questioning your knowledge. Playing injured is extremely common and sometimes they try playing through the pain but have to shut it down after trying.
vander54 said:
Eh. Could be Conner hid it well. Could be a million reasons they did or didn't know.
Bold opinion.PyriteAg said:
In my opinion, either Weigman is healthy enough to play right now or he actually isn't and Elko and co recklessly decided to play him in the McNeese game.
Yup. Pretty much what I've been meaning to say.TAMUallen said:vander54 said:
Eh. Could be Conner hid it well. Could be a million reasons they did or didn't know.
No doubt but that just sets off alarm bells
I love a guy that's playing hard and muscling through stuff but when you aren't at the level to win, that's selfish. All hypothetical of course. Just wish coaches and staff would have known
PyriteAg said:Yup. Pretty much what I've been meaning to say.TAMUallen said:vander54 said:
Eh. Could be Conner hid it well. Could be a million reasons they did or didn't know.
No doubt but that just sets off alarm bells
I love a guy that's playing hard and muscling through stuff but when you aren't at the level to win, that's selfish. All hypothetical of course. Just wish coaches and staff would have known
In Weigman's defense though, ANY player who wants to play would fake their health. If this is what happened, though, then it's hard to see how Elko and co would not have spotted it in the middle of the ND game at least. And if they did know about it, then it would be extremely reckless of them to put Weigman out there with the potential of getting hurt even more.
Which would be what happened if Weigman actually did fake his health before the ND game.
Honestly, I'm hoping my opinion is changed through the Mizzou game, but I think we're royally screwed in the offense. Weigman was good but can't stay healthy, Reed is very disappointing right now, and Henderson somehow lost to both of them.TAMUallen said:PyriteAg said:Yup. Pretty much what I've been meaning to say.TAMUallen said:vander54 said:
Eh. Could be Conner hid it well. Could be a million reasons they did or didn't know.
No doubt but that just sets off alarm bells
I love a guy that's playing hard and muscling through stuff but when you aren't at the level to win, that's selfish. All hypothetical of course. Just wish coaches and staff would have known
In Weigman's defense though, ANY player who wants to play would fake their health. If this is what happened, though, then it's hard to see how Elko and co would not have spotted it in the middle of the ND game at least. And if they did know about it, then it would be extremely reckless of them to put Weigman out there with the potential of getting hurt even more.
Which would be what happened if Weigman actually did fake his health before the ND game.
I see it one of three ways.
A) he was hurt and hid it
B) he was babied and exalted without much of a challenge to develop
C) he's not good and our staff either missed completely on this or more scary, he's the best option
TAMUallen said:vander54 said:
Eh. Could be Conner hid it well. Could be a million reasons they did or didn't know.
No doubt but that just sets off alarm bells
I love a guy that's playing hard and muscling through stuff but when you aren't at the level to win, that's selfish. All hypothetical of course. Just wish coaches and staff would have known
vander54 said:TAMUallen said:vander54 said:
Eh. Could be Conner hid it well. Could be a million reasons they did or didn't know.
No doubt but that just sets off alarm bells
I love a guy that's playing hard and muscling through stuff but when you aren't at the level to win, that's selfish. All hypothetical of course. Just wish coaches and staff would have known
Not really
LB12Diamond said:
None of those bud.
TAMUallen said:vander54 said:TAMUallen said:vander54 said:
Eh. Could be Conner hid it well. Could be a million reasons they did or didn't know.
No doubt but that just sets off alarm bells
I love a guy that's playing hard and muscling through stuff but when you aren't at the level to win, that's selfish. All hypothetical of course. Just wish coaches and staff would have known
Not really
Not really to what? Being to hurt to play and that being selfish? Because it is
I don't know but hopefully she doesn't call him "Wiggy." Such a horrid nickname.TAMUallen said:
What's the gf look like?
vander54 said:
Eh. Could be Conner hid it well. Could be a million reasons they did or didn't know.
Hungry Ojos said:
Elko just thinks Reed is better.
That's it.
PyriteAg said:
My biggest issue with the whole theory on Weigman being actually injured is that he started the first half of the McNeese game. Elko flat out said after the ND game that he was injured and yet he still played Weigman in the 2nd game?
In my opinion, either Weigman is healthy enough to play right now or he actually isn't and Elko and co recklessly decided to play him in the McNeese game.
