Don't let a close game in the 4th quarter fool you, it was painfully obvious how much we were struggling on offense and we were not going to make the plays needed to win the game. We aren't winning ten games if we can't score more than one offensive touchdown the entire game

HoustonAg2106 said:

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Don't let a close game in the 4th quarter fool you, it was painfully obvious how much we were struggling on offense and we were not going to make the plays needed to win the game. We aren't winning ten games if we can't score more than one offensive touchdown the entire game

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Dont let the game being played close fool me? Are you dense?
Also we arent going to play Notre Dames defense 10 more times

gigem1223 said:

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Yep. I watched it live in the stadium and then just finished the rewind. Weigman was terrible, period. He had guys open. He played like he didn't trust his OL nor did he trust his OC. Panicked and threw the ball too early way too many times. Play Reed! At the very least he can use his legs to extend plays and/ or pick up first downs.

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He basically had a good opening drive, and then the wheels fell off. Was bailing on the pocket, not sure he made a single throw with good footwork. Hopefully its just in his head

HoustonAg2106 said:

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PatAg said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Don't let a close game in the 4th quarter fool you, it was painfully obvious how much we were struggling on offense and we were not going to make the plays needed to win the game. We aren't winning ten games if we can't score more than one offensive touchdown the entire game

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Dont let the game being played close fool me? Are you dense?
Also we arent going to play Notre Dames defense 10 more times

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4 of our 6 losses last year were within one score meaning even closer than this loss to ND (all 6 of them were within two scores). Even the worse teams in the NFL usually have most of their losses by just one score. Losing close games doesn't make you a good team.

I'm being realistic, you are playing mental gymnastics and using moral victories to claim this team can accomplish something this year that they very clearly cannot

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The game was close, I dont care about the score.
Im not doing any mental gymnastics or moral victories lol. We had some large negatives that have to be addressed, but also CAN be.
Im presenting an alternative and realistic way of viewing the game, because everyone is overdoing it with negatives.
Im seeing people say "notre dame kicked our ass", which is just hilariously wrong. That game was there to be won

PatAg said:

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Immediately prior to this stop, the offense goes on a 10 play TD drive.
After the punt the following happens.

Offense goes 3 and out
Notre Dame scores TD on 4:30 drive
Offense goes 4 and out
Notre Dame kicks field goal

For all the negatives, this game was right there to win.
a 10 win season is still there, the playoffs are still there.
A lot will depend on how certain players improve as the season goes along, but thats always the story.

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I think it's much more likely that this is a 6 win season, but keep up the sunshine pumping. Elko is like Fran and sleepy Sherman. It just ain't happening.

PatAg said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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PatAg said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Don't let a close game in the 4th quarter fool you, it was painfully obvious how much we were struggling on offense and we were not going to make the plays needed to win the game. We aren't winning ten games if we can't score more than one offensive touchdown the entire game

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Dont let the game being played close fool me? Are you dense?
Also we arent going to play Notre Dames defense 10 more times

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4 of our 6 losses last year were within one score meaning even closer than this loss to ND (all 6 of them were within two scores). Even the worse teams in the NFL usually have most of their losses by just one score. Losing close games doesn't make you a good team.

I'm being realistic, you are playing mental gymnastics and using moral victories to claim this team can accomplish something this year that they very clearly cannot

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The game was close, I dont care about the score.
Im not doing any mental gymnastics or moral victories lol. We had some large negatives that have to be addressed, but also CAN be.
Im presenting an alternative and realistic way of viewing the game, because everyone is overdoing it with negatives.
Im seeing people say "notre dame kicked our ass", which is just hilariously wrong. That game was there to be won

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Our defense will keep a lot of games close just like last year. But without a competent offense I have no faith that we will make the plays late in games when they are needed the most to win. Probably going to look a lot like last year with about 4 or 5 close losses

PatAg said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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Don't let a close game in the 4th quarter fool you, it was painfully obvious how much we were struggling on offense and we were not going to make the plays needed to win the game. We aren't winning ten games if we can't score more than one offensive touchdown the entire game

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Dont let the game being played close fool me? Are you dense?
Also we arent going to play Notre Dames defense 10 more times

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Nor Notre Dame's offense. We'll be playing some teams with really good offenses that know how to score and have QB's that can throw. If we can't get the offense going we'll have no chance to keep up, despite our defenses best efforts.

gigem1223 said:

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Yep. I watched it live in the stadium and then just finished the rewind. Weigman was terrible, period. He had guys open. He played like he didn't trust his OL nor did he trust his OC. Panicked and threw the ball too early way too many times. Play Reed! At the very least he can use his legs to extend plays and/ or pick up first downs.

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If nothing else, maybe Connor watching from the sidelines will help him relax and realize the O line is much better than last year, and that he DOES have more time to make an accurate non panicked throw.

For those saying the game was close…ND didn't exactly play a clean game. They could have and should have beaten us by 30. Our defense played gutsy and kept us in the game until they ran out of gas from being on the field so much.

PatAg said:

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Immediately prior to this stop, the offense goes on a 10 play TD drive.
After the punt the following happens.

Offense goes 3 and out
Notre Dame scores TD on 4:30 drive
Offense goes 4 and out
Notre Dame kicks field goal

For all the negatives, this game was right there to win.
a 10 win season is still there, the playoffs are still there.
A lot will depend on how certain players improve as the season goes along, but thats always the story.

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This post is why the Administration has no worries. Hope sells.

TheCougarHunter said:

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For those saying the game was close…ND didn't exactly play a clean game. They could have and should have beaten us by 30. Our defense played gutsy and kept us in the game until they ran out of gas from being on the field so much.

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Agreed a better QB and they blow us out of the water unfortunately

HoustonAggie37713 said:

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PatAg said:

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Immediately prior to this stop, the offense goes on a 10 play TD drive.
After the punt the following happens.

Offense goes 3 and out
Notre Dame scores TD on 4:30 drive
Offense goes 4 and out
Notre Dame kicks field goal

For all the negatives, this game was right there to win.
a 10 win season is still there, the playoffs are still there.
A lot will depend on how certain players improve as the season goes along, but thats always the story.

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This post is why the Administration has no worries. Hope sells.

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1 game in and you already want administration changes. I always proposed game-to-game contracts as a joke but I think some of you idiots actually think that's a good idea.

A game is not "right there to win" when your offense can't even get the ball across midfield, much less score a touchdown. It was tied because Notre Dame's offense played almost as poorly as ours until one of their coaches said, "Wait a minute! What if we take the ball and somehow hand it to these guys who can ran fast and run through tackles? They used to call it a 'running game' back in the 1850s!

Notre Dame had 100 yards of penalties and was 2 of 12 on third down and still won. They played like garbage on offense for 3-1/2 quarters and were still 10 points better than A&M.

So you're saying we win by 3 scores w competent qb play

I agree, nd is avg at best

CW at best will be a game manager type qb. He doesnt fit what the oc wants to do. He was out of shape, slower, everyone saw it including elmo and klien.throw in that he was afraid to stand in the pocket ans we got the disaster we all saw. Move on to someone who will mKe it happen.

With a half a$S accurate QB that game would not have been close.

cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAggie37713 said:

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PatAg said:

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Immediately prior to this stop, the offense goes on a 10 play TD drive.
After the punt the following happens.

Offense goes 3 and out
Notre Dame scores TD on 4:30 drive
Offense goes 4 and out
Notre Dame kicks field goal

For all the negatives, this game was right there to win.
a 10 win season is still there, the playoffs are still there.
A lot will depend on how certain players improve as the season goes along, but thats always the story.

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This post is why the Administration has no worries. Hope sells.

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1 game in and you already want administration changes. I always proposed game-to-game contracts as a joke but I think some of you idiots actually think that's a good idea.

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Actually I'm 40 years in.

This game is not on the O Line, the O receivers, the D or the coaches. This game is on one person. And it was not because of his feet.

We win that game if he plays normal .

If the offense can't sustain drives and score the defense will eventually run out of gas and get fatigued. This is when injuries happen.
Then players will see this and start hitting the portal.

TheCougarHunter said:

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For those saying the game was close…ND didn't exactly play a clean game. They could have and should have beaten us by 30. Our defense played gutsy and kept us in the game until they ran out of gas from being on the field so much.

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" They could have and should have beaten us by 30. "


That's comical how wrong that is.

Agvet12 said:

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TheCougarHunter said:

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For those saying the game was close…ND didn't exactly play a clean game. They could have and should have beaten us by 30. Our defense played gutsy and kept us in the game until they ran out of gas from being on the field so much.

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Agreed a better QB and they blow us out of the water unfortunately

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Everyone wants to talk about our WR lack of separation. Boy, you're going to love watching their receivers if you think a better QB would have helped. Our DB's and defensive scheme left them nothing in the passing game.

Defensive showing was pretty good. We still need LB help imo.

Offensive showing wasn't good but the bright spot was OL play improved from last yr. qb play was uncharacteristically bad . WR and RB were ok but there is no sign from my perspective of a player that is a game changer . Moss is a pounder but he needs holes to run through as he''s not the type of back that can make his own plays. Didn't see enough of Bussey to know if he could be that type or not but I do know he may not be built to take down after down poundings . Receivers can't help if Qb can't place the ball in a place they can catch it.

cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAggie37713 said:

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PatAg said:

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Immediately prior to this stop, the offense goes on a 10 play TD drive.
After the punt the following happens.

Offense goes 3 and out
Notre Dame scores TD on 4:30 drive
Offense goes 4 and out
Notre Dame kicks field goal

For all the negatives, this game was right there to win.
a 10 win season is still there, the playoffs are still there.
A lot will depend on how certain players improve as the season goes along, but thats always the story.

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This post is why the Administration has no worries. Hope sells.

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1 game in and you already want administration changes. I always proposed game-to-game contracts as a joke but I think some of you idiots actually think that's a good idea.

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Play by play coaching contracts are best
-Da Zoo

We had guests over that evening. I didn't want to be rude so I had the game on but was not watching closely... until the very point OP starts this thread.

From that point on I watched, and man, it was hard to see how we were even in the game.

I texted my family when I finally sat down and said "we will win this"... because normally, in a close game like that in the 4th quarter, you can lean towards the home team. But if you only watched the last half of the 4th quarter (call me a bad Ag, but at my age, life is more than Aggie football)... ND was the far better team.

Here's hoping they are... and this is like the Florida game in 2012. We started that season 0-1, too.

HoustonAggie37713 said:

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cevans_40 said:

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HoustonAggie37713 said:

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PatAg said:

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Immediately prior to this stop, the offense goes on a 10 play TD drive.
After the punt the following happens.

Offense goes 3 and out
Notre Dame scores TD on 4:30 drive
Offense goes 4 and out
Notre Dame kicks field goal

For all the negatives, this game was right there to win.
a 10 win season is still there, the playoffs are still there.
A lot will depend on how certain players improve as the season goes along, but thats always the story.

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This post is why the Administration has no worries. Hope sells.

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1 game in and you already want administration changes. I always proposed game-to-game contracts as a joke but I think some of you idiots actually think that's a good idea.

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Actually I'm 40 years in.

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I'm 55 years in........ all mediocrity, just like the last 84 years (going on 85).

PatAg said:

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Immediately prior to this stop, the offense goes on a 10 play TD drive.
After the punt the following happens.

Offense goes 3 and out
Notre Dame scores TD on 4:30 drive
Offense goes 4 and out
Notre Dame kicks field goal

For all the negatives, this game was right there to win.
a 10 win season is still there, the playoffs are still there.
A lot will depend on how certain players improve as the season goes along, but thats always the story.

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You must have watched a different game than I. Our offense would have trouble scoring in boys town.