JohnLA762 said:
Oh look, an article trying to convince people TESSUS is better than A&M…
Quote:
R. Bowen Loftin became Texas A&M's interim president in 2009 and visited Dallas that year for the Big 12's conference board. He told ESPN's Wilson that was the first moment he realized who the boss was in their league.
"It was pretty clear how things worked," Loftin said. "One school was pretty much in charge of how the conference was going to go. [Then-Big 12 commissioner Dan] Beebe was clearly beholden to that school. That gave me pause."
JohnLA762 said:
Oh look, an article trying to convince people TESSUS is better than A&M…
Quote:
The legacy of Texas A&M's first 12 years in the SEC alone won't be fully known until seeing how it fares in the conference the next 12 years with Texas. But Texas A&M bet on itself and the SEC as opposed to fighting an uphill battle toward independence in the Big 12. In the end, the Aggies proved to be on the right side of history.
"The greatest accomplishment that Texas A&M has achieved is that they, in essence, forced Texas to follow them into the SEC," ESPN commentator Paul Finebaum said. "And that's as convoluted as anything you've ever heard, but that's really why Texas decided to make that move, because they saw how much money A&M was making. They saw, recruiting-wise, they were doing so much better."
So, now back to that famous quote from Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds. The one about not keeping up with the Joneses because Texas is the Joneses.
For once, the Joneses had to keep up with Texas A&M.
"For once, the Joneses had to keep up with Texas A&M"JohnLA762 said:
Oh look, an article trying to convince people TESSUS is better than A&M…
Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
we absolutely wasted it and couldnt capitalize. Standing there and taking it when the conference stabbed us in the back sucks too.
4 said:Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
we absolutely wasted it and couldnt capitalize. Standing there and taking it when the conference stabbed us in the back sucks too.
Dead on.
We just can't ever close the deal.
And we could have forever maintained an advantage by using our veto vote to not allow tu into the conference, but no. What do we do immediately after finding out that the conference and tu were negotiating in bad faith behind our backs? We kick rocks and say, "golly!", and go ahead and vote them in.
Our admin is such a bunch of nutless pansies.
Do you think tu would have given us their deciding vote if the shoe was on the other foot?
VP at Pierce and Pierce said:
What tu does has little to no impact on us. This isnt 2011 and prior. We stand on our own now, for better or worse. We are very organized, well funded, have a clear direction, and are not behind in terms of money or facilities. None of that was true during our time previously. We are a completely different program now. Heck we are now a nationally known program in the upper echelon. Have we got the results we want on the field? For the most part, no but we havent been a failure either. We are in a great position and we stand on our own two feet for the first time ever.
OBJTEX said:4 said:Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
we absolutely wasted it and couldnt capitalize. Standing there and taking it when the conference stabbed us in the back sucks too.
Dead on.
We just can't ever close the deal.
And we could have forever maintained an advantage by using our veto vote to not allow tu into the conference, but no. What do we do immediately after finding out that the conference and tu were negotiating in bad faith behind our backs? We kick rocks and say, "golly!", and go ahead and vote them in.
Our admin is such a bunch of nutless pansies.
Do you think tu would have given us their deciding vote if the shoe was on the other foot?
The vote would not have blocked them coming but we showed ourselves to be eunuchs by voting yes.
4 said:OBJTEX said:4 said:Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
we absolutely wasted it and couldnt capitalize. Standing there and taking it when the conference stabbed us in the back sucks too.
Dead on.
We just can't ever close the deal.
And we could have forever maintained an advantage by using our veto vote to not allow tu into the conference, but no. What do we do immediately after finding out that the conference and tu were negotiating in bad faith behind our backs? We kick rocks and say, "golly!", and go ahead and vote them in.
Our admin is such a bunch of nutless pansies.
Do you think tu would have given us their deciding vote if the shoe was on the other foot?
The vote would not have blocked them coming but we showed ourselves to be eunuchs by voting yes.
Unless I'm mistaken, the vote has to be unanimous among SEC members in order to offer membership to another school, in which case it would have blocked them.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that point.
OBJTEX said:4 said:OBJTEX said:4 said:Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
we absolutely wasted it and couldnt capitalize. Standing there and taking it when the conference stabbed us in the back sucks too.
Dead on.
We just can't ever close the deal.
And we could have forever maintained an advantage by using our veto vote to not allow tu into the conference, but no. What do we do immediately after finding out that the conference and tu were negotiating in bad faith behind our backs? We kick rocks and say, "golly!", and go ahead and vote them in.
Our admin is such a bunch of nutless pansies.
Do you think tu would have given us their deciding vote if the shoe was on the other foot?
The vote would not have blocked them coming but we showed ourselves to be eunuchs by voting yes.
Unless I'm mistaken, the vote has to be unanimous among SEC members in order to offer membership to another school, in which case it would have blocked them.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that point.
Also happy to be proven wrong but it took 75% as i recall. Sankey pressured us to make it unanimous.
Humorous Username said:OBJTEX said:4 said:OBJTEX said:4 said:Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
we absolutely wasted it and couldnt capitalize. Standing there and taking it when the conference stabbed us in the back sucks too.
Dead on.
We just can't ever close the deal.
And we could have forever maintained an advantage by using our veto vote to not allow tu into the conference, but no. What do we do immediately after finding out that the conference and tu were negotiating in bad faith behind our backs? We kick rocks and say, "golly!", and go ahead and vote them in.
Our admin is such a bunch of nutless pansies.
Do you think tu would have given us their deciding vote if the shoe was on the other foot?
The vote would not have blocked them coming but we showed ourselves to be eunuchs by voting yes.
Unless I'm mistaken, the vote has to be unanimous among SEC members in order to offer membership to another school, in which case it would have blocked them.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that point.
Also happy to be proven wrong but it took 75% as i recall. Sankey pressured us to make it unanimous.
You are correct. We would have needed three other schools to vote "no" with us.
In the end, I believe our leadership knew that texas was going to get in, and decided to trade a "yes" vote for the game to be played at Kyle instead of in Austin.
In the future, there will be a dozen schools that wish they had voted "no."Humorous Username said:
You are correct. We would have needed three other schools to vote "no" with us.
Ag Tag said:In the future, there will be a dozen schools that wish they had voted "no."Humorous Username said:
You are correct. We would have needed three other schools to vote "no" with us.
OBJTEX said:4 said:OBJTEX said:4 said:Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
we absolutely wasted it and couldnt capitalize. Standing there and taking it when the conference stabbed us in the back sucks too.
Dead on.
We just can't ever close the deal.
And we could have forever maintained an advantage by using our veto vote to not allow tu into the conference, but no. What do we do immediately after finding out that the conference and tu were negotiating in bad faith behind our backs? We kick rocks and say, "golly!", and go ahead and vote them in.
Our admin is such a bunch of nutless pansies.
Do you think tu would have given us their deciding vote if the shoe was on the other foot?
The vote would not have blocked them coming but we showed ourselves to be eunuchs by voting yes.
Unless I'm mistaken, the vote has to be unanimous among SEC members in order to offer membership to another school, in which case it would have blocked them.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that point.
Also happy to be proven wrong but it took 75% as i recall. Sankey pressured us to make it unanimous.
SEC Bylaw 3.1.2, authorizes the Chief Executive Officers of the Conference to extend invitations for membership if at least three-fourths of its 14 member institutions vote to approve.4 said:OBJTEX said:4 said:Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
we absolutely wasted it and couldnt capitalize. Standing there and taking it when the conference stabbed us in the back sucks too.
Dead on.
We just can't ever close the deal.
And we could have forever maintained an advantage by using our veto vote to not allow tu into the conference, but no. What do we do immediately after finding out that the conference and tu were negotiating in bad faith behind our backs? We kick rocks and say, "golly!", and go ahead and vote them in.
Our admin is such a bunch of nutless pansies.
Do you think tu would have given us their deciding vote if the shoe was on the other foot?
The vote would not have blocked them coming but we showed ourselves to be eunuchs by voting yes.
Unless I'm mistaken, the vote has to be unanimous among SEC members in order to offer membership to another school, in which case it would have blocked them.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that point
We don't have to just take it. There's another major conference out there that's arguably a better deal for us.Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:
we absolutely wasted it and couldnt capitalize. Standing there and taking it when the conference stabbed us in the back sucks too.
Actually I didn't get that from the article. It said 2012-2022 may go down as the worst decade in tu football ever.rootube said:
Here's another way to look at it. What did horn do in the B12 when Nebraska, Colorado Missouri and A&M left? To read these articles you would assume they dominated but in reality they got their tails kicked in by the likes of OU and TCU for a decade.
I think the closest Big 10 school is Nebraska, 805 miles from CSmerch said:
And that would be?
I've heard people chat about Big 10 but that likely isn't better for ATM financially. Not better football. Not better baseball. Not better basketball. Not better geographically. I guess better in that we don't have to deal with Austin.
Is there another option?
EastSideAg2002 said:
Just need to be sure we payback FL and USCe when those ACC schools come a knockin
