My friend up the street is a Michigan alum. He supports the team a lot. A few years ago, A&M and Michigan were ranked next to each other, something like 5 and 6 or something. Our recruiting was almost always better than theirs ranking-wise. We were both very excited about what was coming next. We seemed to be on the threshold of major success. I secretly thought we would get to the championship game before Michigan did but I thankfully I did not tell him that.

Fast forward to today, we just fired our coach, our players are running to the exits, and the program has an uncertain future.
Michigan is in the Championship game.

We?

Well we did beat them in the '95 Alamo Bowl so there's that.

K.

Yeah but that 1995 Alamo Bowl…

JohnLA762 said:

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We?

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What's wrong with saying "we" when an Ag talks about the Ags?

Difference between successful programs and wannabe programs. Hopefully Elko can make us more than a wannabe.

Problem was Jimbo. He wasn't going to win here.

Elko may be it, but we don't know.

Wait, you telling me our head coach was a bum? How will we ever afford his buyout?

****in get over it. We are on to Elko now. If you want to ***** about his huge waistline, cool. Jimbo is in the rearview mirror.

Elko's got a lot of work in front of him next year.
Assuming he can get the ship turned around at that point I would think 26 we should be very competitive.

Michigan unlike A&M didn't knee-jerk and fire Harbaugh. Not all coaches are Saban and it takes time.

Double Diamond said:

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Michigan unlike A&M didn't knee-jerk and fire Harbaugh. Not all coaches are Saban and it takes time.

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You think it was a knee jerk to fire Fischer?

bigtruckguy3500 said:

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Double Diamond said:

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Michigan unlike A&M didn't knee-jerk and fire Harbaugh. Not all coaches are Saban and it takes time.

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You think it was a knee jerk to fire Fischer?

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He thinks there was zero plan and the money got mad, yes.

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My friend up the street is a Michigan alum. He supports the team a lot. A few years ago, A&M and Michigan were ranked next to each other, something like 5 and 6 or something. Our recruiting was almost always better than theirs ranking-wise.

Fast forward to today, we fired our coach, our players are running to the exits, and the program has an uncertain future.
Michigan is in the Championship game.

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Our players are NOT running for the exits.

Double Diamond said:

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Michigan unlike A&M didn't knee-jerk and fire Harbaugh. Not all coaches are Saban and it takes time.

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Michigan, unlike A&M, has had an offense with a pulse.

Meh, if it makes you feel better, Michigan cheated to get where they are. In my opinion, anything they accomplish this year is illegitimate, and frankly, they should have been banned from postseason play this year.

2015: 10-3
2016: 10-3
2017: 8-5
2018: 10-3
2019: 9-4
2020: 2-4
2021: 12-2
2022: 13-1
2023: TBD

Maybe if Fisher had three 10 win seasons in the first four years he would have more leash to survive 5-7 and 7-5

bigtruckguy3500 said:

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Double Diamond said:

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Michigan unlike A&M didn't knee-jerk and fire Harbaugh. Not all coaches are Saban and it takes time.

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You think it was a knee jerk to fire Fischer?

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Yeah I do. It's not like it looked like Harbaugh could win. Was getting killed by Ohio State and in bowls. But Michigan backed him. A&M was darn close and because of 2.5 years with QB battered and lost blew it all up.

tk for tu juan said:

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2015: 10-3
2016: 10-3
2017: 8-5
2018: 10-3
2019: 9-4
2020: 2-4
2021: 12-2
2022: 13-1
2023: TBD

Maybe if Fisher had three 10 win seasons in the first four years he would have more leash to survive 5-7 and 7-5

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Harbaugh was playing a Big 10 schedule with like two hard games vs. SEC schedule.

TAMU74 said:

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Elko's got a lot of work in front of him next year.
Assuming he can get the ship turned around at that point I would think 26 we should be very competitive.

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Dammit, I was told that next year was our year.

We hired a guy named JIMBO.

Nostradamus had zero need to predict this outcome.

Double Diamond said:

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Michigan unlike A&M didn't knee-jerk and fire Harbaugh. Not all coaches are Saban and it takes time.

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LOL

Double Diamond said:

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tk for tu juan said:

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2015: 10-3
2016: 10-3
2017: 8-5
2018: 10-3
2019: 9-4
2020: 2-4
2021: 12-2
2022: 13-1
2023: TBD

Maybe if Fisher had three 10 win seasons in the first four years he would have more leash to survive 5-7 and 7-5

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Harbaugh was playing a Big 10 schedule with like two hard games vs. SEC schedule.

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Hate to break it to you, but our vaunted SEC schedule isn't all that hard. It's basically LSU and Alabama. If Fisher was still going 7-5 after 6 years, there's nothing to say he'd ever get any better. Firing him was the only choice because he proved himself to be a very average coach.

Double Diamond said:

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

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Double Diamond said:

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Michigan unlike A&M didn't knee-jerk and fire Harbaugh. Not all coaches are Saban and it takes time.

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You think it was a knee jerk to fire Fischer?

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Yeah I do. It's not like it looked like Harbaugh could win. Was getting killed by Ohio State and in bowls. But Michigan backed him. A&M was darn close and because of 2.5 years with QB battered and lost blew it all up.

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Jimbo was running a dog **** program and things were only gonna get worse when the 2022 recruiting class left. Firing him was 100% the right decision imo

Rape ok coach

ABATTBQ11 said:

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Double Diamond said:

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tk for tu juan said:

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2015: 10-3
2016: 10-3
2017: 8-5
2018: 10-3
2019: 9-4
2020: 2-4
2021: 12-2
2022: 13-1
2023: TBD

Maybe if Fisher had three 10 win seasons in the first four years he would have more leash to survive 5-7 and 7-5

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Harbaugh was playing a Big 10 schedule with like two hard games vs. SEC schedule.

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Hate to break it to you, but our vaunted SEC schedule isn't all that hard. It's basically LSU and Alabama. If Fisher was still going 7-5 after 6 years, there's nothing to say he'd ever get any better. Firing him was the only choice because he proved himself to be a very average coach.

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Absurd take on the sec schedule

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Problem was Jimbo. He wasn't going to win here.

Elko may be it, but we don't know.

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Jimbo wouldn't have done what Harbough did and take a pay cut to move to performance based contract because he wasn't producing.

Michigan plays nobody compared to us. If you were to flip A&M and Michigan's schedules with each other from the past decade, A&M is easily making the playoffs more than once. Michigan wouldn't even sniff an SEC west appearance.

The players just need to execute.

Said after 18 losses.

Michigan also got him to negotiate his buyout down and defer some of his pay during COVID. Was Jimbo offering to take a reduced buyout when things started turning south?

fightinag1123 said:

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Double Diamond said:

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

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Double Diamond said:

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Michigan unlike A&M didn't knee-jerk and fire Harbaugh. Not all coaches are Saban and it takes time.

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You think it was a knee jerk to fire Fischer?

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Yeah I do. It's not like it looked like Harbaugh could win. Was getting killed by Ohio State and in bowls. But Michigan backed him. A&M was darn close and because of 2.5 years with QB battered and lost blew it all up.

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Jimbo was running a dog **** program and things were only gonna get worse when the 2022 recruiting class left. Firing him was 100% the right decision

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So you and you alone have an opinion that is correct and you prove that throwing around useless percentages. Are you God?

Wreckingcrew22 said:

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Michigan plays nobody compared to us. If you were to flip A&M and Michigan's schedules with each other from the past decade, A&M is easily making the playoffs more than once. Michigan wouldn't even sniff an SEC west appearance.

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That may be a bit much, but there's no denying the B1G is even more top heavy than the SEC

Double Diamond said:

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tk for tu juan said:

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2015: 10-3
2016: 10-3
2017: 8-5
2018: 10-3
2019: 9-4
2020: 2-4
2021: 12-2
2022: 13-1
2023: TBD

Maybe if Fisher had three 10 win seasons in the first four years he would have more leash to survive 5-7 and 7-5

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Harbaugh was playing a Big 10 schedule with like two hard games vs. SEC schedule.

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Big Ten eliminated SEC…

greg.w.h said:

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fightinag1123 said:

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Double Diamond said:

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

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Double Diamond said:

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Michigan unlike A&M didn't knee-jerk and fire Harbaugh. Not all coaches are Saban and it takes time.

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You think it was a knee jerk to fire Fischer?

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Yeah I do. It's not like it looked like Harbaugh could win. Was getting killed by Ohio State and in bowls. But Michigan backed him. A&M was darn close and because of 2.5 years with QB battered and lost blew it all up.

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Jimbo was running a dog **** program and things were only gonna get worse when the 2022 recruiting class left. Firing him was 100% the right decision

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So you and you alone have an opinion that is correct and you prove that throwing around useless percentages. Are you God?

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Definitely not God. Will edit post to say IMO

TX_COWDOC said:

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Well we did beat them in the '95 Alamo Bowl so there's that.

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I was there. One of the best games I've ever seen. It was a blast!