They are completely pointless in today's college football landscape if you aren't in the playoffs and half of the team opts out.

Let the players, coaches, schools decide.

Fans opinions are irrelevant but only for the impact on butts in seats and eyeballs on the screens.

I cannot blame a player who has NFL future to play in a pointless bowl game. But that pointless game still brings revenue.

Boo hoo. Don't watch. Plenty of us like to, no one is making you

If you have an issue with a baseball stadium hosting a football game sponsored by a cloud storage system named after a Japanese horseradish kicking off at 11 a.m. on a Thursday, then I’m not sure we can be friends pic.twitter.com/KVrIsZTIwW

— Dan Wetzel (@DanWetzel) December 28, 2023

Why? Don't find them interesting, don't watch them.

Bowl games generally make money for schools, conferences, and networks. And they are opportunities for players to play, especially those who may have been overlooked to now.

Henderson is a perfect example of why players that want to prep for the NFL draft skip meaningless bowl games.

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Henderson is a perfect example of why players that want to prep for the NFL draft skip meaningless bowl games.

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Don't you know that was Bjork's fault?

I laugh when I see a bowl game flash up the comparison of conferences in bowl games. Talk about a completely meaningless stat now. Outside of two playoff games, you cannot use bowl games to compare anything!

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I cannot blame a player who has NFL future to play in a pointless bowl game. But that pointless game still brings revenue.

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I kind of like seeing the "new" guys play. That being said, if bowls are pointless then 90% of games after week 7-8 are pointless for most teams, and we've gotten to the point where UFA guys who are spares at the NFL level (if even that) are sitting out.

I bet most of these undrafted, 1 year on a practice squad guys would love to go back and play 1 more pointless bowl game if they could do it over.

So cancel them?

That will not happen as the extra prep and playing time is essential, not to mention advertising, city taxes and income coming in to those same cities.

TV money and exposure...still wanted by many programs and some players (and some recruits).

Do think SEC wants as many teams in bowls as doesn't the conference share the proceeds with all the teams (or something to that extent?)?

The injury excuse doesn't hold water. If you're preoccupied with getting injured you should play a different sport.

What's interesting to me. I loved our game last night and the fight our players showed. Sucked losing Henderson but Reed played well enough to give us a shot.

The 12th man having a game like that one is a great story line and the epitome of what the position is all about!

A&M ran a trick play! Who knew that was allowed after watching the last 6 years.

The expanded playoffs will make all other bowl games more like the NIT in basketball though. So if you are not happy now with the none playoff games, it's going to get worse for you.

64 Bracket Playoff

Oh look, someone else bleeding about college football being on tv. Clutch them pearls harder op.

Most bowl games in this environment are just a version of Spring games. It is less about what the team was the past season and more of a sneak peak of coming attractions.

Too much money involved from advertising, sponsorships, TV, etc. for bowl games to go away.

What needs to change is the timeline for portal/transfers and the early signing day.

I imagine coaches are overwhelmed with trying to finish out the season successfully, prepare for a bowl game, adjusting rosters to opt-outs, recruiting HS kids and transfers.

Where is your pride and loyalty ?The payer could get hurt anytime.. Car, practice, etc.

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They are completely pointless in today's college football landscape if you aren't in the playoffs and half of the team opts out.

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There are millions of people who watch these games including me.

You don't speak for us.

Since you don't like these bowl games, don't watch them. It's just that easy. All these bowl games don't affect you any so why do you care whether they exist or not?

Bowl season used to mean something before the BCS system that pitted 1 vs 2 and before players started opting out

Under the old system teams played to achieve the highest ranking possible and nfl bound players used them as one last showcase for the draft

The national champion could usually come from a few bowls rather than just one or just the playoffs

When everyone played a bowl game it was the highest achievement to win it

Now players opt out and only the playoffs have any real meaning

If you aren't in the playoffs, a lot of players view the games as meaningless and if bound for the nfl then just another chance to get hurt

Expand the playoffs to 24 or 32 teams and scrap the bowls

Just take it a step further. Once you lose two games, your season is over. Whether it's September or November, who cares. Nothing worth playing for after that.

Gaius Julius Bevo said:

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Why? Don't find them interesting, don't watch them.

Bowl games generally make money for schools, conferences, and networks. And they are opportunities for players to play, especially those who may have been overlooked to now.

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Actually I've talked to people who work in athletic departments and they don't net money on the bowl games.

I was shocked when told this but my BIL used to work for a B12 Ath Dept. and when his school went to, and won the Orange Bowl, the school lost money in the game but gained a ton in donations to the program.

By the time they pay all the costs associated with attending the game (hotel, travel, food, etc. for all the players and staff) and split the bowl payout to the conference and rest of the teams, the teams lose money.

IIRC, the B12 used to split bowl money 14 ways. Each team got a share, the conference got a share and the team got an extra share.

This was 10 years ago so not sure if it's still relevant today.

Also, the coaches like the extra month of practice.

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Gaius Julius Bevo said:

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Why? Don't find them interesting, don't watch them.

Bowl games generally make money for schools, conferences, and networks. And they are opportunities for players to play, especially those who may have been overlooked to now.

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Actually I've talked to people who work in athletic departments and they don't net money on the bowl games.

I was shocked when told this but my BIL used to work for a B12 Ath Dept. and when his school went to, and won the Orange Bowl, the school lost money in the game but gained a ton in donations to the program.

By the time they pay all the costs associated with attending the game (hotel, travel, food, etc. for all the players and staff) and split the bowl payout to the conference and rest of the teams, the teams lose money.

IIRC, the B12 used to split bowl money 14 ways. Each team got a share, the conference got a share and the team got an extra share.

This was 10 years ago so not sure if it's still relevant today.

Also, the coaches like the extra month of practice.

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That is why I said generally. It is true schools usually lose a few hundred thousand if they are picked for a minor bowl and if it is a far away trip where they don't sell out their bowl game allotment. This why the bowls like to pick teams are are closer to where the games are to be played.

Schools definitely make money on the higher tier games. Texas did in the recent spate of Alamo Bowls we were in. Of course you're golden in you get into a NYD game or the CFB playoff as a bigger school and this allows you maybe to bank for a leaner year.

One more thing that should be said...People complain a lot about certain teams (like Notre Dame or Texas maybe) getting the benefit of the doubt. I'd readily agree this seems to be the case and I would offer it is because those teams are money-makers. So when you are a team like Boise State or Texas Tech, you should still support your team even if the season was slightly disappointing. It pays off ultimately if you build a reputation as someone that will travel and bring TV viewership. I believe A&M has been one of those teams.

Bowls are going to disappear as soon as they expand the playoffs to 16 or 24 teams which is inevitable when people realize what a cash cow the playoffs are.

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Henderson is a perfect example of why players that want to prep for the NFL draft skip meaningless bowl games.

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Don't you know that was Bjork's fault?

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I thought it was Addazio and the poor OLine.

Extra practices alone make them invaluable.

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Bowls are going to disappear as soon as they expand the playoffs to 16 or 24 teams which is inevitable when people realize what a cash cow the playoffs are.

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I'm holding out for the 66 game playoffs with the 2 Opt-In games.

And then tracking the "1st 3 Out" and the "Next 3 Out"

So unfair to leave those 6 teams out.

Bowls should have cash payouts to teams to be distributed exclusively to the players who participate and reward winners versus losers and MVPs.

This may help incentivize not opting out and also reward teams who had better seasons.

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Oh look, someone else bleeding about college football being on tv. Clutch them pearls harder op.

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Last night's game was hardly "college ball". Maybe on OSU's side. It was a glorified scrimmage on our end.

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45-70Ag said:

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Oh look, someone else bleeding about college football being on tv. Clutch them pearls harder op.

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Last night's game was hardly "college ball". Maybe on OSU's side. It was a glorified scrimmage on our end.

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Not even close to the truth. Clearly you never played the game.

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They are completely pointless in today's college football landscape if you aren't in the playoffs and half of the team opts out.

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Did you watch last night?

(Don't lie, we know you did, or else you wouldn't be posting on a message board about it today.)

And because of that, that's exactly why they aren't going away.

(And TexAgs will still make money off you continuing to come here to wax poetically about how things used to be, and how you're so right, and you don't want to talk about it anymore but you'll still keep coming here talking about it.)

And the bowls will continue. And you'll keep watching them because you just can't not, and also you need something on to distract you from your family that you hate.

It won't stop. But you got to feel good waxing poetically on a message board for a second to make sure everyone knows how right you are about how something in your imagination decades ago was different.

NyAggie said:

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Bowl season used to mean something before the BCS system that pitted 1 vs 2 and before players started opting out

Under the old system teams played to achieve the highest ranking possible and nfl bound players used them as one last showcase for the draft

The national champion could usually come from a few bowls rather than just one or just the playoffs

When everyone played a bowl game it was the highest achievement to win it

Now players opt out and only the playoffs have any real meaning

If you aren't in the playoffs, a lot of players view the games as meaningless and if bound for the nfl then just another chance to get hurt

Expand the playoffs to 24 or 32 teams and scrap the bowls

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The thing so many care about is the money. Used to it was the teams and the conferences, now it includes the players. So set it up that with a 32 team playoff, or 64, the winners at each round get cash, like NIL. But put some skin in the game for the players as well. Those that lose in the first round have to pay for the value of the scholarship and return their NIL monies. Those who lose in the second round return their NIL monies. Then the winners in subsequent rounds get $100k or $200k per game per player, and up it for successive rounds.

Money talks. When attendance and viewership decline enough they'll make a change. As long as everyone is making money though it won't change. Just stop watching until then. Its inevitable the current bowl system won't last. Only a matter of years until it is turned into a full blown playoff system.

Too many bowls my ass pic.twitter.com/fsarvrcpOU

— Tom Fornelli (@TomFornelli) December 28, 2023

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They are completely pointless in today's college football landscape if you aren't in the playoffs and half of the team opts out.

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Did you watch last night?

(Don't lie, we know you did, or else you wouldn't be posting on a message board about it today.)

And because of that, that's exactly why they aren't going away.

(And TexAgs will still make money off you continuing to come here to wax poetically about how things used to be, and how you're so right, and you don't want to talk about it anymore but you'll still keep coming here talking about it.)

And the bowls will continue. And you'll keep watching them because you just can't not, and also you need something on to distract you from your family that you hate.

It won't stop. But you got to feel good waxing poetically on a message board for a second to make sure everyone knows how right you are about how something in your imagination decades ago was different.

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You feel better talking **** about my family pissant?