1) Coming out of HS, when you sign your LOI you are locked in for 2 years minimum before you can transfer. RS year counts in that 2 years so schools can't take advantage and the only way you can transfer sooner is if the HC leaves or is fired. This is still favorable to the player and gives programs a bit more stability.

2) If you transfer in conference you have to sit out a year, out of conference you can play immediately. Tampering is a huge issue. I would bet the contact even after a kid signs his LOI is crazy. They don't allow that in the pros so it shouldn't happen here without stiff penalties. the one year sit would stop a lot of it and also no communicating kids not in your program the minute they sign their LOI till they officially enter the portal. the portal list is far too large with many of those kids not finding homes and I bet the decrease of opposing coaches whispering in their ears would cut this drastically. Not sure how that helps these kids who at worse could get an education of some sort if they aren't that in demand for their playing skills.

3) All NIL money earned goes into a trust for the player till he/she graduates with monthly stipends paid out. (and hardships can be reviewed if the players overall family needs more to help out) I am fine with kids making a piece of the NCAA pie but if you have pros that can't manage their money then how do you think kids will handle it. Seeing a Colorado player rolling up in a Lambo just shouldn't happen even for the kids future.

This is just where I would start.

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1) Coming out of HS, when you sign your LOI you are locked in for 2 years minimum before you can transfer. RS year counts in that 2 years so schools can't take advantage and the only way you can transfer sooner is if the HC leaves or is fired. This is still favorable to the player and gives programs a bit more stability.

2) If you transfer in conference you have to sit out a year, out of conference you can play immediately. Tampering is a huge issue. I would bet the contact even after a kid signs his LOI is crazy. They don't allow that in the pros so it shouldn't happen here without stiff penalties. the one year sit would stop a lot of it and also no communicating kids not in your program the minute they sign their LOI till they officially enter the portal. the portal list is far too large with many of those kids not finding homes and I bet the decrease of opposing coaches whispering in their ears would cut this drastically. Not sure how that helps these kids who at worse could get an education of some sort if they aren't that in demand for their playing skills.

3) All NIL money earned goes into a trust for the player till he/she graduates with monthly stipends paid out. (and hardships can be reviewed if the players overall family needs more to help out) I am fine with kids making a piece of the NCAA pie but if you have pros that can't manage their money then how do you think kids will handle it. Seeing a Colorado player rolling up in a Lambo just shouldn't happen even for the kids future.

This is just where I would start.

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Most of what you want to do has already been shot down by the courts. And the kids that are driving up in lambos are doing it because they are leases paid by dealerships. The cars go back to the dealership the second the NIL deal they have runs out. They aren't all running out to buy one.

If you really want to fix some of this stuff, then schools need to be allowed to directly pay players. If Tax Act is sponsoring a bowl game, some of the money paid for the sponsorship should go to the players and I bet you'd have a lot less opt outs. Instead it all goes to the conferences and schools.

Just eliminate it altogether.

IIRC players used to have to sit for a year regardless of conference when they transferred I'd be fine either way.

I briefly had a thought that you could trade a year of eligibility for immediate play after transfer, but so many leave eligibility on the table that it likely wouldn't be a deterrent.

I would give players a free transfer resulting from a coaching change.

I think we'll see transfers slow down a bit going forward. We've still got teh Covid players milling around with their extra year. They get an additional transfer when they graduate which most of them have at this point (look how many SEC Graduate patches you see on jerseys).

Some of these kids are gonna be bankrupt in a few years from the taxes that they can't pay. They're gonna owe the IRS tons of tons of money. If you think NFL players are bad with money, wait till you start seeing the bank records of a 18-year-old who has never had money and now has $2 million. There was not put in place to protect these kids from people on the outside or from themselves.

Before you say, I don't know what I'm talking about. I've got three boys that are in this age bracket right now, and I wouldn't trust them with hundreds of dollars much less millions of dollars. 18 to 23-year-old kids are not fully developed yet. Don't care what anybody says.

Dave Elmendorf gave a good analogy on the pregame last night about what a mess it is. He said if the NFL has a similar transfer portal it would be like every NFL player would be a free agent after every season and what a nightmare that would be. As it is it is out of control and unsustainable.

Why do threads keep getting posted about making new restrictions on transfers/nil/portal? The courts have loudly rejected any restrictions, all the way up the supreme court. Dreaming up new restrictions is about as meaningful developing a plan to marry 7 super models at once. Not gonna happen.

The cats outta the bag... Never coming back.. cfb is minor league football, with free agency for every player on a yearly basis.

Implement the NIL deals to do the restricting. No large up front deals.

Any effort to change things will be met with legal challenges and the courts have shown they'll side with the player.

This mess will be never ending.

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there will eventually be some type of NFL-like structure with the schools as the owners and the players with a union and the contract structures will be agreed upon across all of college football. then you can start implementing salary caps etc...

this will stop all the transferring, and you'll have a contract year where you can go shop yourself if you want.

but NIL will still be NIL because you can't limit that. so there's the bag money.

I can't wait until the extra COVID year no longer affects rosters. I understand what the NCAA was doing when they gave everyone an extra year, but the football season still happened so there was no need for the extra eligibility. Sports like baseball, softball, and track needed that extra year because their seasons got completely canceled.

If you transfer, you have to sit out a year. Or loose a year of eligibility. Even pros at least have dome sort of contract they have to follow. These kids can cash in, not see the field, then just leave like a rebolving door.

It'll change when the B1G and SEC become essentially the north and south conferences of minor league football. Shove off from the NCAA and then you can put rules in place for participating in the league. Just like the NFL has rules against tampering. Jerry J. got the Cowboys fined for talking to Adrian Peterson in the middle of a season.

You can also create solid playoff requirements rather than some stupid selection committee.

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Some of these kids are gonna be bankrupt in a few years from the taxes that they can't pay. They're gonna owe the IRS tons of tons of money. If you think NFL players are bad with money, wait till you start seeing the bank records of a 18-year-old who has never had money and now has $2 million. There was not put in place to protect these kids from people on the outside or from themselves.

Before you say, I don't know what I'm talking about. I've got three boys that are in this age bracket right now, and I wouldn't trust them with hundreds of dollars much less millions of dollars. 18 to 23-year-old kids are not fully developed yet. Don't care what anybody says.

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So, and 18 year old can be trusted with bullets and bombs to fight for our nation, but not hundreds of dollars? Your argument makes no sense. Historically, 18 year olds are fully formed adults having families and careers. Our culture coddles them and prolongs adolescences FAR too long. Are they still developing mentally and physically? Yes. Does that mean they cannot handle mature things until they are fully developed at 25-27… heck no. You give them keys to a car that can easily kill them and others. Why can't they be trusted to earn and learn to care for their own money?

This type of thinking- that they can't do it- is precisely why they don't. We have lowered the bar and expectations. Teenagers rise to the occasion and do amazing things all the time.

Why would Aggies want to fix it? If we want to, we can now legally pay as much or more than any other program for players due to the size and wealth of our collective former students. It's merely about prioritizing and capitalizing on that fact.

Why would we want to give up that advantage? You want to go back to the days of selective enforcement of rules?

Make it a simple NCAA rule: Whenever you enroll in a school, you are ineligible to compete in any sport for another school for 730 days (2 years) from the date of enrollment... with exceptions for coaching changes or graduating,

You can enroll in school A and immediately transfer to school B, but won't be able to compete until that timer is done. If someone transfers to school C, they wouldn't be able to compete until 730 days after they enrolled in school B.

That would fix some of the annual portal mess, while letting the NIL market figure itself out.

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Dave Elmendorf gave a good analogy on the pregame last night about what a mess it is. He said if the NFL has a similar transfer portal it would be like every NFL player would be a free agent after every season and what a nightmare that would be. As it is it is out of control and unsustainable.

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Indeed it is unsustainable; and therefore will collapse on it's own. The reasons are fundamental and multiple.

Im sorry you don't like the free market.

The genie is out of the bottle now. It is going to be what its going to be. Time to adapt to the new world.

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Some of these kids are gonna be bankrupt in a few years from the taxes that they can't pay. They're gonna owe the IRS tons of tons of money. If you think NFL players are bad with money, wait till you start seeing the bank records of a 18-year-old who has never had money and now has $2 million. There was not put in place to protect these kids from people on the outside or from themselves.

Before you say, I don't know what I'm talking about. I've got three boys that are in this age bracket right now, and I wouldn't trust them with hundreds of dollars much less millions of dollars. 18 to 23-year-old kids are not fully developed yet. Don't care what anybody says.

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Not all 18-23 year olds are as irresponsible as your sons.

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Why do threads keep getting posted about making new restrictions on transfers/nil/portal? The courts have loudly rejected any restrictions, all the way up the supreme court. Dreaming up new restrictions is about as meaningful developing a plan to marry 7 super models at once. Not gonna happen.

The cats outta the bag... Never coming back.. cfb is minor league football, with free agency for every player on a yearly basis.

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I guess it's the off season and lots of people have opinions and thoughts to fixing all of the problems college football has. For better or worse, none of these comments will make it up to the brass that make these decisions

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Wrong. The case dealt with restrictions on educational benefits.



Once Congress passes legislation allowing the ncaa (or whoever) to put rules in place, youll see transfer restrictions put in place.

but nil is not going away. weird people get so mad about others making money

There is no such thing as a free market. Free markets require open and available information and free of coercion. Well it could happen if we lived in fantasy land.

Disassociate teams from colleges

Solved

If the movie Idiocracy had college football it would look like college football today.

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Why do threads keep getting posted about making new restrictions on transfers/nil/portal? The courts have loudly rejected any restrictions, all the way up the supreme court. Dreaming up new restrictions is about as meaningful developing a plan to marry 7 super models at once. Not gonna happen.

The cats outta the bag... Never coming back.. cfb is minor league football, with free agency for every player on a yearly basis.

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If the NFL can have contracts for specific number of years commitment, why can't college?

How about this…
1. You apply for admission like any other student.
2. After completing your first semester with a minimum 2.0 grade point average enrolled in a legitimate degree plan ( available to ANY other student), you may try out for sports.
3. If you make the team, you will recieve a refund of your previous semester's fees.
4. Rinse & repeat until graduation or your academic status changes.

Until and or when all the state employment laws are married and aligned, Txfr and NIL will disappear as athletes will become state employees. It won't happen soon, but many are trying to review and solve (a couple of lawsuits may speed it up).

I'm all for restrictions on players transferring as long as coaches have to follow the same rules.

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Why do threads keep getting posted about making new restrictions on transfers/nil/portal? The courts have loudly rejected any restrictions, all the way up the supreme court. Dreaming up new restrictions is about as meaningful developing a plan to marry 7 super models at once. Not gonna happen.

The cats outta the bag... Never coming back.. cfb is minor league football, with free agency for every player on a yearly basis.

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If the NFL can have contracts for specific number of years commitment, why can't college?

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The NFL also cuts people still on contract every year. Just as coaches pull scholarships every year. I don't see many people arguing against that.

Can't we just go back to the old transfer rules?