DallasAg 94 said:

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Funny.

All the experts on here thought Addazaio and Durkin were trash and incompetent even though they've never been coached them, played for them, and probably never seen them coach.

Now, we're finding out that players that were recruited by them, coached by them, and have played for them... actually liked them.

So, weird. Continue with the Pot-Banging.

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Maybe they liked them because they were not to tough on them, or any other number of reasons.

Did he like playing for coaches that got underperforming results on game day?

Coaches don't need to be liked, but they need to command respect.

This will be a long journey to nowhere. I've watched this crap for over sixty years. Here comes tu to kick our … on a very regular basis. So disappointing.

Wait a minute. This is a Steve Wiltfong's Crystal Ball prediction of a switch, with a confidence level of 6.

Seriously?

Double Diamond said:

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Good luck winning with three stars.

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You mean like Johnny, Smith, Achane, Von ….?

MagnumLoad said:

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Double Diamond said:

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Good luck winning with three stars.

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You mean like Johnny, Smith, Achane, Von ….?

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Remind me again what we won with these guys. I don't recall a single championship, conference or national with any of them.

Also neither achane nor von was a 3 star

knoxtom said:

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MagnumLoad said:

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Double Diamond said:

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Good luck winning with three stars.

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You mean like Johnny, Smith, Achane, Von ….?

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Remind me again what we won with these guys. I don't recall a single championship, conference or national with any of them.

Also neither achane nor von was a 3 star

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Wasn't T York a 3-star? You know, the freshman standout at LB???

Come Out Roll said:

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knoxtom said:

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MagnumLoad said:

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Double Diamond said:

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Good luck winning with three stars.

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You mean like Johnny, Smith, Achane, Von ….?

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Remind me again what we won with these guys. I don't recall a single championship, conference or national with any of them.

Also neither achane nor von was a 3 star

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Wasn't T York a 3-star? You know, the freshman standout at LB???

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Of course there are 3 star players that end up being good. You can name lots of them

You can name infinitely more 5 star players that ended up being good.

This is silly to even argue.

This is fine. Coach Elko is gonna get kids who want to be Aggies

knoxtom said:

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MagnumLoad said:

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Double Diamond said:

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Good luck winning with three stars.

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You mean like Johnny, Smith, Achane, Von ….?

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Remind me again what we won with these guys. I don't recall a single championship, conference or national with any of them.

Also neither achane nor von was a 3 star

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How many DCs gave us a top 10 unit over the last 20 years. Statistically, it's been pretty rare. But as a DC you probably can't magically produce a national title when you're shackled by a poor offense, with a backup QB no less. We know Durkin can produce, we know he recruited many guys in this class so I can't understand why we don't keep him at least a year to minimize disruption. The transition is difficult enough without losing a bunch of top prospects on top of that.

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Funny.

All the experts on here thought Addazaio and Durkin were trash and incompetent even though they've never been coached them, played for them, and probably never seen them coach.

Now, we're finding out that players that were recruited by them, coached by them, and have played for them... actually liked them.

So, weird. Continue with the Pot-Banging.

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The issues with our former coaching staff had nothing to do with their overall recruiting. They weren't coaching effectively.

I would rather have 3 stars that played hard as hell and knew what they were doing, than have our 4 and 5 stars that were soft and ineffective at their positions.

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You should let more coaches know what you prefer when it comes to them doing their jobs.

IMO we are losing because we are not fielding a team of upperclassmen. The sad thing is we were getting close, finally. Now it is a tear down. I like Elko. I think he is smart enough to fill us with the portal. I mean you have too these days. But dang we were close. Old $ Ags panicked.

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vander54 said:

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ElephantRider said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Funny.

All the experts on here thought Addazaio and Durkin were trash and incompetent even though they've never been coached them, played for them, and probably never seen them coach.

Now, we're finding out that players that were recruited by them, coached by them, and have played for them... actually liked them.

So, weird. Continue with the Pot-Banging.

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The Durkin hate was overblown, but Addazio was absolutely trash. The kids liking him is irrelevant, he put a garbage product on the field.

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I'm not disappointed Adazio is gone but I've heard some say our Oal issues were mainly due to scheme and not coaching. I don't completely agree and that's why I'm not sad he was let go.

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Coaching OL isn't difficult. Inside-Outside-HeadUp-1st on backer, pin-and-pull, zone blocking... It isn't like football hasn't exhausted iterations of technique and scheme.

The issue in most cases begins with health. Is an OL player healthy enough to do what they are asked to do. If healthy, is the OL player talented enough to do what is being asked.
If healthy and talented, is the OL player experienced enough to understand his responsibility based on what the D is giving them.

We haven't had players remain healthy. I assume the are talented enough, but clearly there are some you realize just are not capable... or as capable as you need for the SEC. We certainly haven't had the experience. So, when an SEC DC (including Durkin and Elko) masks what they are doing and includes stunts and shifts... the OL is still processing what he needs to do when the DL has already beaten him.

Add to that a lack of playing together and relying on non-verbal communications like, "I know the OC is going to pick up this guy in the gap and I can pull." Or, the "OC isn't going to pick this guy up because he thinks I'm going to pick him up." That experience together is critical.

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Our OL did all those things you listed terribly. And it falls on the coach. Their communication, technique and physicality was all poop. Guys regressed from their play seasons before. He might be respected but he ain't good. He's the worse OL coach since pick a Sumlin guy.

EricHill said:

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This is fine. Coach Elko is gonna get kids who want to be Aggies

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That would be great but as long as they want to play for Coach Elko I'm good.

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Come Out Roll said:

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knoxtom said:

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MagnumLoad said:

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Double Diamond said:

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Good luck winning with three stars.

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You mean like Johnny, Smith, Achane, Von ….?

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Remind me again what we won with these guys. I don't recall a single championship, conference or national with any of them.

Also neither achane nor von was a 3 star

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Wasn't T York a 3-star? You know, the freshman standout at LB???

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Of course there are 3 star players that end up being good. You can name lots of them

You can name infinitely more 5 star players that ended up being good.

This is silly to even argue.

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Someone tell GA and Bama they don't need to do what they're doing to win...per 247, recruiting rankings for GA/Bama championship teams:

2022 Georgia - 4th (2021), 1st (2020), 2nd (2019), 1st (2018)
2021 Georgia - 1st (2020), 2nd (2019), 1st (2018), 3rd (2017)
2020 Alabama - 1st (2019), 5th (2018), 1st (2017), 1st (2016)
2017 Alabama - 1st (2016), 1st (2015), 1st (2014), 1st (2013
2015 Alabama - 1st (2014), 1st (2013), 1st (2012), 1st (2011

EricHill said:

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This is fine. Coach Elko is gonna get kids who want to be Aggies

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It's unfortunate. But in this day and age of NIL and Transfer Portal, I'm not sure there are very many 4/5 stars that want
to be Aggies. Even after they sign, if they turn out great, they test the market to see if they can get more NIL money. If they're not great, they try to go to a place where they can play. The three or four year player will become a rarity going forward.


The only thing for sure is that 4/5 stars have been coddled and praised so much that they all believe that NFL stardom and riches are in their future, and that getting an education and becoming a lifelong member of a community (like A&M former students) is unimportant.

EricHill said:

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This is fine. Coach Elko is gonna get kids who want to be Aggies

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I'm sorry, but that is the wrong mentality if A&M wants to start winning.

Just looked it up. Nationally we see about 1 million plus kids each year in high school play football. That number does not dig further into how many seniors there is but we can safely assume at least 250,000+? Think about that for a second… these analysts rank all those players. Ty Smith may be a 3* on various sites, but for the most part hes around 350(ish) nationally… cant tell me thats not impressive to be the top .1% in the nation. 3 star or not he is a good talent to have on board..Hope he stays

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Wait a minute. This is a Steve Wiltfong's Crystal Ball prediction of a switch, with a confidence level of 6.

Seriously?

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Fong does this all of the time. He switched pick he was high" on just yesterday

Maybe T Smith will sign with A&M and see if he can step into the shoes of Round 1 NFL pick Cooper.

Maybe he has a boyfriend in Austin.

DallasAg 94 said:

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Funny.

All the experts on here thought Addazaio and Durkin were trash and incompetent even though they've never been coached them, played for them, and probably never seen them coach.

Now, we're finding out that players that were recruited by them, coached by them, and have played for them... actually liked them.

So, weird. Continue with the Pot-Banging.

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That doesn't prove they aren't incompetent trash.

This has been known for a while.

vander54 said:

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ElephantRider said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Funny.

All the experts on here thought Addazaio and Durkin were trash and incompetent even though they've never been coached them, played for them, and probably never seen them coach.

Now, we're finding out that players that were recruited by them, coached by them, and have played for them... actually liked them.

So, weird. Continue with the Pot-Banging.

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The Durkin hate was overblown, but Addazio was absolutely trash. The kids liking him is irrelevant, he put a garbage product on the field.

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I'm not disappointed Adazio is gone but I've heard some say our Oal issues were mainly due to scheme and not coaching. I don't completely agree and that's why I'm not sad he was let go.

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Who said this?

juandeman said:

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IMO we are losing because we are not fielding a team of upperclassmen. The sad thing is we were getting close, finally. Now it is a tear down. I like Elko. I think he is smart enough to fill us with the portal. I mean you have too these days. But dang we were close. Old $ Ags panicked.

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Still doesn't explain our atrocious road record against SEC competition. We played down to lesser competition far too often. I got tired of making excuses for Jimbo. He had to go.

Some former players. Not A&M players but college OL. Now it's only been a small number

juandeman said:

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IMO we are losing because we are not fielding a team of upperclassmen. The sad thing is we were getting close, finally. Now it is a tear down. I like Elko. I think he is smart enough to fill us with the portal. I mean you have too these days. But dang we were close. Old $ Ags panicked.

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I think we actually would have had more guys enter the portal if Jimbo had stayed

vander54 said:

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ElephantRider said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Funny.

All the experts on here thought Addazaio and Durkin were trash and incompetent even though they've never been coached them, played for them, and probably never seen them coach.

Now, we're finding out that players that were recruited by them, coached by them, and have played for them... actually liked them.

So, weird. Continue with the Pot-Banging.

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The Durkin hate was overblown, but Addazio was absolutely trash. The kids liking him is irrelevant, he put a garbage product on the field.

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I'm not disappointed Adazio is gone but I've heard some say our Oal issues were mainly due to scheme and not coaching. I don't completely agree and that's why I'm not sad he was let go.

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Scheme is why Bryce Foster ended up on his ass every other play?

ElephantRider said:

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vander54 said:

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ElephantRider said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Funny.

All the experts on here thought Addazaio and Durkin were trash and incompetent even though they've never been coached them, played for them, and probably never seen them coach.

Now, we're finding out that players that were recruited by them, coached by them, and have played for them... actually liked them.

So, weird. Continue with the Pot-Banging.

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The Durkin hate was overblown, but Addazio was absolutely trash. The kids liking him is irrelevant, he put a garbage product on the field.

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I'm not disappointed Adazio is gone but I've heard some say our Oal issues were mainly due to scheme and not coaching. I don't completely agree and that's why I'm not sad he was let go.

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Scheme is why Bryce Foster ended up on his ass every other play?

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Well when your scheme puts the guard's foot 3 inches from the centers foot and you instruct your guard to step in at the snap then....yes.

I caution many to watch what they say because there's still a decent chance he signs with us.

I should add he apparently is on tu's campus as expected

That fu**er Dumbo has set this program back about 10 years and no I never liked the hire as I have a good friend who is an FSU guy and he warned me .
Has he left town yet ? I'll offer to help him pack .

TexasAggiesWin said:

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vander54 said:

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ElephantRider said:

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DallasAg 94 said:

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Funny.

All the experts on here thought Addazaio and Durkin were trash and incompetent even though they've never been coached them, played for them, and probably never seen them coach.

Now, we're finding out that players that were recruited by them, coached by them, and have played for them... actually liked them.

So, weird. Continue with the Pot-Banging.

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The Durkin hate was overblown, but Addazio was absolutely trash. The kids liking him is irrelevant, he put a garbage product on the field.

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I'm not disappointed Adazio is gone but I've heard some say our Oal issues were mainly due to scheme and not coaching. I don't completely agree and that's why I'm not sad he was let go.

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Who said this?

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Are we really arguing scheme vs coaching? Really? Do I really need to say it? Fill in the blanks. Scheme and coaching are the ---- -----.

Keith70Chevelle said:

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This will be a long journey to nowhere. I've watched this crap for over sixty years. Here comes tu to kick our … on a very regular basis. So disappointing.

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That's interesting given the record is even over the past 50 years….

murphyag said:

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I think we actually would have had more guys enter the portal if Jimbo had stayed

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You never know what worse luck your bad luck kept you from.