rootube said:

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aTm2004 said:

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rootube said:

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Let's say you have an academic scholarship and decide to transfer. Do you have to pay that back? I honestly don't know the answer but I would guess you don't. People need to grow up and learn to move on. We fired the coach and the entire staff. These are the consequences of that action. If you can't cope with the fallout then you shouldn't be firing your coach.

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Your example only works if they only had athletic scholarships, but they do not.

But, if you had an academic scholarship and were getting paid 6-figures (7 in some instances) on top of that, I bet there would be stipulations on what would happen if you leave to go to another school.

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That's even more absurd. They had a job and were being paid to do that job. If you had a student worker job with the university and transferred they are not going to come to you and ask for your salary back. I also don't pretend to understand the details of NIL payments but unless they signed a contract to work for four years (which I doubt) then there is nothing you can do.

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You asked a question about an academic scholarship and tried to equate the two. They are not the same and never will be unless that scholarship comes with tons of money. If it did, there would be stipulations. NIL is not scholarship related, and you're right, there's nothing we can do, but contracts are coming.

alamogeorge said:

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I agree so long as you make engineering students payback any scholarships if they decide to transfer to another school.

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Apples and oranges. Most players are majoring in football and complete the academic requirements only to remain eligible to play football.

As with every student. They are only doing the academic work to get a good job.

Very few players are being paid 6-7 figure deals. Those are the ones hunted at- and probably from sliced bread kind of guys.

Idk, the whole idea of paying back a scholarship seems one sided. Remember these players often times get injured for the university. How does that seem fair.

Obviously i dont have a solution to said issue, but instead of 4 years scholarships, move it to a single year? Lol. Make them continue to earn a scholarship on the returning season? Although that would likely result in MASSIVE yearly turnover.

Once a player attends the first day of class the scholarship is paid for by the university

It's pretty simple. There just needs to be a limit added.

Two transfers allowed
A third one is allowed upon graduation.
Restrict transfer dates. End of season to end of spring camp.
Portal is closed after that.

If a school is caught trying to contact signed players, that school loses the ability to sign that player.

I'd call that fair for all. The players have to display a little bit of commitment and transferring requires putting on your big boy decisions making pants.

It's pretty simple. There just needs to be a limit added.

Two transfers allowed
A third one is allowed upon graduation.
Restrict transfer dates. End of season to end of spring camp.
Portal is closed after that.

If a school is caught trying to contact signed players, that school loses the ability to sign that player.

I'd call that fair for all. The players have to display a little bit of commitment and transferring requires putting on your big boy decisions making pants.

for those who don't want to read every post


ATHLETIC SCHOLARSHIPS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN 1-YEAR DEALS AND SUBJECT TO RENEWAL EVERY YEAR. THEY ARE NOT 4-YEAR DEALS.

Divining Rod said:

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The $ thing should be easy to contract around. The mess is caused by the easy transfers. College football schools (not necessarily the NCAA?) need to have limits.

Like, one free transfer with no loss of eligibility, but must sit a year.

Second transfer, you sit 2 seasons. No 3rd transfer.

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You can't put anything in writing with athletes in college like a contract. That would look like you are paying them to play and that is against NCAA rules. That's why the whole NIL/ transfer portal thing is a big mess. NCAA has stupid rules like the rules around "pay for play" that forbid boosters/ universities to do anything to fix the crazy situation that is college sports right now...

Since they have to allow payment for NIL, it would be nice if the NCAA would fix their crap so that boosters/ NIL entities have more leverage over the athletes and could make contractual agreements that could fix a whole lot of this mess..

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that boosters/ NIL entities have more leverage over the athletes and can make contractual agreements.

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boosters/NIL entities do make contractual agreements with athletes.

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that boosters/ NIL entities have more leverage over the athletes and can make contractual agreements.

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boosters/NIL entities do make contractual agreements with athletes.

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I'm sure they do, but they have no leverage to put anything in the contracts about them transferring, playing X number of games, performance clauses, etc that could help retain athletes for a school.

Basically, an athlete can take money and run to the next school via the portal and take more money with no penalty or repercussions. The NIL entities have no leverage in that regard..They have it better than NFL athletes.

that has nothing to do with the NCAA.

state law is what prevents those types of terms from being included.